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does warden have the worst damage spammables of all classes?

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that being:

-dive
-scorch
-swarm
-impaling shards

let me explain:

(honestly warden damage skills remind me of the guns from advanced warfare, where EVERY gun had to have some weird quirk to it)


-dive is delayed compared to other singe target skills, and has a weird *use from far away* quirk to it, this puts it in direct contrast to-
-scorch that everyone is well aware has quite the delay on it, of use in pvp but very annoying in pve its also a rather close range skill putting it into contrast with dive that seems to want warden to stay in a random ~10 meter range between 8 and 18 meters away (what?!)
-swarm the dot with an extremely long travel time (almost like a. . .delay? if you will) and the magicka version with the *this skill is not worth it unless you use it twice per enemy* quirk.
-impaling shards is the most normal skill as its clearly split between being DK talons one way or liquid lightning the other, I don't really have much to say here, its decent, I wanted to list it just to counter myself a bit in that not ALL of the warden skills are wonky, just the majority of them.

so yeah, its just annoying to play when all your damage skills are weird, I love MOST things about warden, but off all things to be bad the spammables (of whom you are going to be relying upon a lot of the time) being clunky is a pretty low blow.


(btw I acknowledge that necro has some weird spammables, blastbones is drunk more often then not, flame skull is super delayed. but the scythe is actually very good (reminds me of jabs) and the graveyard is clearly amazing. so while a couple spammables are wonky its made up for by the fact that its so packed full of damage skills that some being weird are able to be avoided or worked around.

ye
Edited by Wing on January 3, 2020 12:08PM
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  • Luede
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    sorc has no spammable
  • Wing
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    Luede wrote: »
    sorc has no spammable

    incoming "frags"

    but yeah, I feel like that's a leftover from sorc clearly intended to be magicka dps when the game first came out and thus clearly use destro staff to shore up its missing skills.
    Edited by Wing on January 3, 2020 12:07PM
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  • Olupajmibanan
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    Better bad spammable than no spammable I guess?
  • Rake
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    this is wrong.
  • max_only
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    No.

    Stam Sorc has the worst class spammable. There is none.
    Edited by max_only on January 3, 2020 12:45PM
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  • Valykc
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    max_only wrote: »
    No.

    Stam Sorc has the worst class spammable. There is none.

    I was gonna post this lol
  • Huyen
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    Wing wrote: »
    that being:

    -dive
    -scorch
    -swarm
    -impaling shards

    let me explain:

    (honestly warden damage skills remind me of the guns from advanced warfare, where EVERY gun had to have some weird quirk to it)


    -dive is delayed compared to other singe target skills, and has a weird *use from far away* quirk to it, this puts it in direct contrast to-
    -scorch that everyone is well aware has quite the delay on it, of use in pvp but very annoying in pve its also a rather close range skill putting it into contrast with dive that seems to want warden to stay in a random ~10 meter range between 8 and 18 meters away (what?!)
    -swarm the dot with an extremely long travel time (almost like a. . .delay? if you will) and the magicka version with the *this skill is not worth it unless you use it twice per enemy* quirk.
    -impaling shards is the most normal skill as its clearly split between being DK talons one way or liquid lightning the other, I don't really have much to say here, its decent, I wanted to list it just to counter myself a bit in that not ALL of the warden skills are wonky, just the majority of them.

    so yeah, its just annoying to play when all your damage skills are weird, I love MOST things about warden, but off all things to be bad the spammables (of whom you are going to be relying upon a lot of the time) being clunky is a pretty low blow.


    (btw I acknowledge that necro has some weird spammables, blastbones is drunk more often then not, flame skull is super delayed. but the scythe is actually very good (reminds me of jabs) and the graveyard is clearly amazing. so while a couple spammables are wonky its made up for by the fact that its so packed full of damage skills that some being weird are able to be avoided or worked around.

    ye

    Necromancer feels worse. Their spammable feels quite clunky.
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  • BeamsForDemacia
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    why? i dont think skull is clunky
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  • Joinovikova
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    The problem is warden has access to stromgest area dmg and stromgest area heals, why should have also strongest one target spamable?? ..
  • Bouldercleave
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    The problem is warden has access to stromgest area dmg and stromgest area heals, why should have also strongest one target spamable?? ..

    He isn't talking about strongest - and he is right. The spammable warden skills are clunky and awkward. On my warden I use weapon spammable skills instead.
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    Wing wrote: »
    Luede wrote: »
    sorc has no spammable

    incoming "frags"

    but yeah, I feel like that's a leftover from sorc clearly intended to be magicka dps when the game first came out and thus clearly use destro staff to shore up its missing skills.

    Considering you are talking about spamables but listing mostly two DoTs and another skill that has a 3 second delay I am not surprised frags is a spamable to you.

    Dive the only spamable and most classes have just one at best.
  • Royaji
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    There is no such thing as "the worst damage spammable" since after Wheeler ran every skill through a spreadsheet all spammables deal the same damage...
    Edited by Royaji on January 3, 2020 2:42PM
  • JinMori
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    I'd say no, nb has the worst magicka spammable.

    Warden spammable is quite strong in terms of pure damage, it has the highest tooltip, and provides some good buffs.

    Class spammables are mostly pretty good actually.
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