tbh i created the post because lately like 3/4 last vDLC i pugged as dd, healers didnt drain, with tank using ransack, ending up in
1. lack of resources.
2. no major breach in groups of two mag dds.
i mean, few times i slotted drain myself, but constantly asking healers to slot drain, and then getting the silence treatment is kinda harsh, i mean, i asked for drain, you said ok, but u put drain on boss in the beginning of fight then forgot about it for the next 3, at least tell me to run drain myself
What does it mean, Heals+resources+mechanics? Resources = buffs and mechanics = stuns and other debuffs as needed?
Edit: thing is, i was running a lot of dlc dungeons lately where healers didnt even know what elemental drain is... Wanna know what people think about healers should do.
Hallothiel wrote: »Normally heal in guild trials so know those involved & they are learning mechanics / know what to do, so usually heal + buffs/debuffs + resources and only minor dps if really needed.
But had to get a couple of pugs in recently for vAA run and my god it was annoying. Most guildmates were stacking nicely on first boss so could easily heal plus see & get to safe zone when called - but then it all fell apart as pugs ran all over the place, didn’t listen, died, then complained about everyone & rage quit.
If you run around too much, and especially if for some reason you stand behind me when the rest of the group is stacked in front - you are going to die. I will do my best but not risk everything if you are being stupid.
@Anotherone773 - I rarely agree with you, but there is always a first time! 😂
what do you expect of a healer in dungeon? I mean, resources, heals, mechanics, Dmg
Edit: thing is, i was running a lot of dlc dungeons lately where healers didnt even know what elemental drain is... Wanna know what people think about healers should do.
Anotherone773 wrote: »I almost always heal in PUGs. So from my own experience:
* Im not chasing you around the dungeon to heal you. I will be by the tank, if your in the back 40 and not catching heals, to bad.
* Im not burning my resource on you if you:
A) cant at least attempt to get out of bad stuff.
run ahead/pull everything because you are in a hurry/leet.
C) fake tank so you can get insta queue. YOU make my job harder when you do this, why would i help you? are you insane?
* I run buffs sometimes. Stand in front of me if you want it. Im not casting it 4 times because you dont know how other roles work and expect me to burn resources so we can form a pentagram on the boss. What is with people who insist on not stacking? We arent playing poker, get in a pile or at least a bloody cone, so i can heal and buff.
* Dont expect me to DPS. I dont expect you to heal. If you want to burn your resources healing yourself or work heals into your rotation that is up to you. If i am bored i might toss some offensive stuff at something that is moving, or i might give them a disapproving stare. But im here to heal, not pick up your slack.
* If you die, then:
A) 5 out of 10 times it was your fault.
2 out of 10 times, i let you on purpose.
C) 2 out of 10 times , a group mate drained all of my resources being a ...
D) 1 out of 10 times , it was my ISP, my computer, my level of intoxication, my sleep deprivation, or generally because i wasnt paying attention.
Regardless of the reason, eat a soul gem and stop crying.
* I will help with certain mechanics as long as they dont interfere with or distract me from healing.
* Im not rezing people. If i have to stop healing for 10-15 sec to rez, people will die. DPS rez first, then tank, then heals. Ill keep you alive while you rez, it was probably your fault, they died.
In closing, if i am going to heal, tank, dps, buff, debuff, and do mechanics, then what do i need you for? Arm candy? Loot donkey? Dont like that i wont do everything? Go ahead and kick me from group, i have 30 sec queues. i cant even clean out my inventory between dungeons.
BONUS! PRO Tip: If i dont move out of the red circles, then you dont need to either.
I take it as a personal challenge to keep everybody alive no matter how they play. I've even run back and forth between rooms to try and keep that on DPS alive that won't just run the adds to the next room. Sometimes I succeed sometimes I fail. I give it a go either way.
Anotherone773 wrote: »I almost always heal in PUGs. So from my own experience:
* I will help with certain mechanics as long as they dont interfere with or distract me from healing.
* Im not rezing people. If i have to stop healing for 10-15 sec to rez, people will die. DPS rez first, then tank, then heals. Ill keep you alive while you rez, it was probably your fault, they died.
In closing, if i am going to heal, tank, dps, buff, debuff, and do mechanics, then what do i need you for? Arm candy? Loot donkey? Dont like that i wont do everything? Go ahead and kick me from group, i have 30 sec queues. i cant even clean out my inventory between dungeons.
BONUS! PRO Tip: If i dont move out of the red circles, then you dont need to either.
Anotherone773 wrote: »I almost always heal in PUGs. So from my own experience:
* Im not chasing you around the dungeon to heal you. I will be by the tank, if your in the back 40 and not catching heals, to bad.
* Im not burning my resource on you if you:
A) cant at least attempt to get out of bad stuff.
run ahead/pull everything because you are in a hurry/leet.
C) fake tank so you can get insta queue. YOU make my job harder when you do this, why would i help you? are you insane?
* I run buffs sometimes. Stand in front of me if you want it. Im not casting it 4 times because you dont know how other roles work and expect me to burn resources so we can form a pentagram on the boss. What is with people who insist on not stacking? We arent playing poker, get in a pile or at least a bloody cone, so i can heal and buff.
* Dont expect me to DPS. I dont expect you to heal. If you want to burn your resources healing yourself or work heals into your rotation that is up to you. If i am bored i might toss some offensive stuff at something that is moving, or i might give them a disapproving stare. But im here to heal, not pick up your slack.
* If you die, then:
A) 5 out of 10 times it was your fault.
2 out of 10 times, i let you on purpose.
C) 2 out of 10 times , a group mate drained all of my resources being a ...
D) 1 out of 10 times , it was my ISP, my computer, my level of intoxication, my sleep deprivation, or generally because i wasnt paying attention.
Regardless of the reason, eat a soul gem and stop crying.
* I will help with certain mechanics as long as they dont interfere with or distract me from healing.
* Im not rezing people. If i have to stop healing for 10-15 sec to rez, people will die. DPS rez first, then tank, then heals. Ill keep you alive while you rez, it was probably your fault, they died.
In closing, if i am going to heal, tank, dps, buff, debuff, and do mechanics, then what do i need you for? Arm candy? Loot donkey? Dont like that i wont do everything? Go ahead and kick me from group, i have 30 sec queues. i cant even clean out my inventory between dungeons.
BONUS! PRO Tip: If i dont move out of the red circles, then you dont need to either.
I take it as a personal challenge to keep everybody alive no matter how they play. I've even run back and forth between rooms to try and keep that on DPS alive that won't just run the adds to the next room. Sometimes I succeed sometimes I fail. I give it a go either way.
Yes! That is exactly what i said except in 437 more words. *eye roll*Anotherone773 wrote: »I almost always heal in PUGs. So from my own experience:
* I will help with certain mechanics as long as they dont interfere with or distract me from healing.
* Im not rezing people. If i have to stop healing for 10-15 sec to rez, people will die. DPS rez first, then tank, then heals. Ill keep you alive while you rez, it was probably your fault, they died.
In closing, if i am going to heal, tank, dps, buff, debuff, and do mechanics, then what do i need you for? Arm candy? Loot donkey? Dont like that i wont do everything? Go ahead and kick me from group, i have 30 sec queues. i cant even clean out my inventory between dungeons.
BONUS! PRO Tip: If i dont move out of the red circles, then you dont need to either.
So... you run around and basically spam healing springs and sometimes breath of life?