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Class spammable for every one! PVP
Karmanorway
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I main Stamsorc and are not far from Grand overlord, there is just 1 problem... I have to grind AP all over on a stamplar because i cant hit ppl with dizzy swing in PvP unless they are high or drunk 
dizzy is simply to slow, If i had a class spammable like most other classes i wouldnt have to 🙂👍 so what do u think? Is this something that should be fixed? Should it be fair for every one No matter what class u choose for PvP?
Edited by Karmanorway on December 27, 2019 11:14PM dizzy is simply to slow, If i had a class spammable like most other classes i wouldnt have to 🙂👍 so what do u think? Is this something that should be fixed? Should it be fair for every one No matter what class u choose for PvP? Class spammable for every one! PVP 71 votes
Yes give a class spammable for stamdk and stamsorc
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34 votes
No i have another idea... (comment)
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11 votes
Or dizzy can be buffed so it actually can hit something, this year*
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2 votes
If u cant hit someone with dizzy, u are trash
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19 votes
No, im a medium/light user i dont want to lose that 3 sec window where i can react to the incoming attack
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Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No i have another idea... (comment)Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.1 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit0 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yea but stonefist doesnt really hit that hard though, thats why no one runs it except maybe tanks. Its the same as stamsorcs Bound armor, this dagers dont hit for (snip) 😂
(edited for bypassing profanity filter)Edited by ZOS_FalcoYamaoka on December 28, 2019 4:01PM2 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭UntilValhalla13 wrote: »There's always crushing weapon.
Yes, that would require a LA build to be viable for enough dmg IMO. Good mentiin though, wouldnt mind more skills like that0 -
DarkPicture✭✭✭✭✭daggers are not spammable for stamsorc, stonefist just need a bit adjustements and now its a spam. Tanks cant always use fist and i saw few times stamdk with stonefist.
Also zenimax mention that they will update stonefist in future updates yet.Edited by DarkPicture on December 27, 2019 11:01PM0 -
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✭If u cant hit someone with dizzy, u are trashJust wanted to say this comment cause I just use it in pve. Though if class spammables are made, the stamina variant should not be a projectile.0 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭daggers are not spammable for stamsorc, stonefist just need a bit adjustements and now its a spam. Tanks cant always use fist and i saw few times stamdk with stonefist.
Really? I swear when i go to Bergama and join pvp fights i never see any stamdk use that, never see it on my death recap in BGs or cyrodiil either. They could rework Bound armor so you dont need light attacks to charge up knives, and buff stonefist1 -
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✭MehrunesFlagon wrote: »Just wanted to say this comment cause I just use it in pve. Though if class spammables are made, the stamina variant should not be a projectile.
I agree, stam variant have enough ranged projectiles with bow which is already OP.. well npcs dont really roll dodge much.. x)0 -
DarkPicture✭✭✭✭✭Karmanorway wrote: »daggers are not spammable for stamsorc, stonefist just need a bit adjustements and now its a spam. Tanks cant always use fist and i saw few times stamdk with stonefist.
Really? I swear when i go to Bergama and join pvp fights i never see any stamdk use that, never see it on my death recap in BGs or cyrodiil either. They could rework Bound armor so you dont need light attacks to charge up knives, and buff stonefist
I was talking about pve, about pvp idk if people are using it or not0 -
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✭Karmanorway wrote: »daggers are not spammable for stamsorc, stonefist just need a bit adjustements and now its a spam. Tanks cant always use fist and i saw few times stamdk with stonefist.
Really? I swear when i go to Bergama and join pvp fights i never see any stamdk use that, never see it on my death recap in BGs or cyrodiil either. They could rework Bound armor so you dont need light attacks to charge up knives, and buff stonefist
I was talking about pve, about pvp idk if people are using it or not
Oh right my bad, should have mentioned it was pvp lol0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No i have another idea... (comment)Karmanorway wrote: »Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit
OP seem unfamiliar with the Sorc and stamina vs magicka skills in all.
First off you are talking about a stamina character in the OP and the person you quoted it talking about a stamina character. Daedric Curse and Crystal Blast are both magicka so it seems very odd you are naming them off as skills that can be used for a stamina character. Even Force Shock and Destructive Touch are magicka based weapon skills.
Even the Daedric Curse is hardly a spammable as it needs to be on the target for several seconds before it does any damage. That is the opposite of a spammable.
Seems like grasping at straws on all these counts.
Judging from OP's replies to others it seems they want something very specific and if it does not fit whatever that is it does not count.0 -
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✭Karmanorway wrote: »Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit
OP seem unfamiliar with the Sorc and stamina vs magicka skills in all.
First off you are talking about a stamina character in the OP and the person you quoted it talking about a stamina character. Daedric Curse and Crystal Blast are both magicka so it seems very odd you are naming them off as skills that can be used for a stamina character. Even Force Shock and Destructive Touch are magicka based weapon skills.
Even the Daedric Curse is hardly a spammable as it needs to be on the target for several seconds before it does any damage. That is the opposite of a spammable.
Seems like grasping at straws on all these counts.
Judging from OP's replies to others it seems they want something very specific and if it does not fit whatever that is it does not count.
I understood it as he was using a magsorc.
I dont want anything specific, except a PvP players opinion.
And no im not unfamiliar with sorc, ive played it for 5 years.
But hey, i like ppl like u, always trying to find flaws in other because?.. Yeah idk3 -
TBois✭✭✭✭✭
✭No i have another idea... (comment)As a Grand Overlord (only mentioning it because you did) stam sorc main, I don't see a need for a class spammable. I'm not saying it wouldn"t be cool to have one, but it isn't necessary.
Have you tried to use power bash from snb? It is insta cast and hits pretty hard now. That's the spammable I would run if I didn't run dizzy.Edited by TBois on December 27, 2019 11:26PMPC/NA
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✭✭✭✭✭No i have another idea... (comment)Karmanorway wrote: »Karmanorway wrote: »Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit
OP seem unfamiliar with the Sorc and stamina vs magicka skills in all.
First off you are talking about a stamina character in the OP and the person you quoted it talking about a stamina character. Daedric Curse and Crystal Blast are both magicka so it seems very odd you are naming them off as skills that can be used for a stamina character. Even Force Shock and Destructive Touch are magicka based weapon skills.
Even the Daedric Curse is hardly a spammable as it needs to be on the target for several seconds before it does any damage. That is the opposite of a spammable.
Seems like grasping at straws on all these counts.
Judging from OP's replies to others it seems they want something very specific and if it does not fit whatever that is it does not count.
I understood it as he was using a magsorc.
I dont want anything specific, except a PvP players opinion.
And no im not unfamiliar with sorc, ive played it for 5 years.
But hey, i like ppl like u, always trying to find flaws in other because?.. Yeah idk
I did misread that, But they truly do not have a class spamable and if you had knowledge of the skills you mentioned you would not have mentioned most of them.
Daedric Curse - had a timer before it does damage, Opposite of spamable.
Destrutive Touch - most of it's damage is DoT. Opposite of a spamamble, cut could be used as a really pathetic one.
Crystal Blast - bad spamable as well.
So yes, it does seem you try to twist facts to meet your interests.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No i have another idea... (comment)Just double checked. Daedric Curse has to be on the target for 6 seconds before it does damage. I forgot to mention it can be cleansed so the effort is wasted.
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✭Karmanorway wrote: »Karmanorway wrote: »Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit
OP seem unfamiliar with the Sorc and stamina vs magicka skills in all.
First off you are talking about a stamina character in the OP and the person you quoted it talking about a stamina character. Daedric Curse and Crystal Blast are both magicka so it seems very odd you are naming them off as skills that can be used for a stamina character. Even Force Shock and Destructive Touch are magicka based weapon skills.
Even the Daedric Curse is hardly a spammable as it needs to be on the target for several seconds before it does any damage. That is the opposite of a spammable.
Seems like grasping at straws on all these counts.
Judging from OP's replies to others it seems they want something very specific and if it does not fit whatever that is it does not count.
I understood it as he was using a magsorc.
I dont want anything specific, except a PvP players opinion.
And no im not unfamiliar with sorc, ive played it for 5 years.
But hey, i like ppl like u, always trying to find flaws in other because?.. Yeah idk
I did misread that, But they truly do not have a class spamable and if you had knowledge of the skills you mentioned you would not have mentioned most of them.
Daedric Curse - had a timer before it does damage, Opposite of spamable.
Destrutive Touch - most of it's damage is DoT. Opposite of a spamamble, cut could be used as a really pathetic one.
Crystal Blast - bad spamable as well.
So yes, it does seem you try to twist facts to meet your interests.
I mentioned Daedric curse because it hits hard which makes it good enough for PvP, destructive touch is not trash with master Staff which alot of builds use, crystal blast is not bad i get hit for 8 - 12k from it as a heavy armor user with full impen.
I played 2 years magsorc then switched for stamsorc the last 3 years, and since om not a r.etard i dare say i do have quite the knowledge of the whole class in general.
Now, unless u can contribute with something to this post other then being petty and trying to make me look stupid, i would really much wish that u leave and try to ridicule someone else instead of wasting my time.Edited by Karmanorway on December 27, 2019 11:39PM1 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a Grand Overlord (only mentioning it because you did) stam sorc main, I don't see a need for a class spammable. I'm not saying it wouldn"t be cool to have one, but it isn't necessary.
Have you tried to use power bash from snb? It is insta cast and hits pretty hard now. That's the spammable I would run if I didn't run dizzy.
No havent tried that one, i only used reverb before for major defile + stun. Its not that i struggle with hitting other players in general except those damn nightblades. But when i bring lets say my stamplar or my own NB those same NB dudes go down fast, and I blame dizzy for it because its so damn slow1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Karmanorway wrote: »Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit
Really? According to these forums dizzy swing is extremely difficult to avoid and ALWAYS connects 125% of the time from across the field.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭Karmanorway wrote: »Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
Daedric curse, crystal blast are some.
Weapon spammables:
Force shock, destructive touch. Those are spammable because they can be animation canceled.
Dizzy swing have a few secs cast time too but the skill cant be canceled, which means your enemy has time to react, u never hit
Really? According to these forums dizzy swing is extremely difficult to avoid and ALWAYS connects 125% of the time from across the field.
lol ok thats new for me, i dare u to go to IC for a few hours and hunt some nightblades with dizzy as spammable and tell me of your experience 😁0 -
jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not really understanding your problem, honestly. My lightning mage doesn’t have a class spammable either, but he is who he is and I’m not redoing him as someone he isn’t just because the sorcerer class has no lightning damage “spammable” attack.
If you're playing magsorc, magsorc kinda has the burst to not rely on a spammable, when played properly. Stamsorc, on the other hand, really has nothing else, except daggers which are so easy to avoid.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If u cant hit someone with dizzy, u are trashSorry not sorry Dizzy is OP.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭Have you tried silver shards? Don't get me wrong it's not dswing/jab good but it's worth trying..I sometimes run it instead of dive0
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TBois✭✭✭✭✭
✭No i have another idea... (comment)Karmanorway wrote: »
Silver shards doesnt make any red circles. It's a non class ranged single target spammable. One morph pulls target to you, and the other morph has splash damage.PC/NA
T-Bois (Stam Sorc since 1.4) - AD
An Unsettling Snowball (Templar) - AD
Bosquecito (Stam Sorc) - DC
Peti-T-Bois (Stamden) - AD2
