Hey, guys! Sorry for such a huge wall of text - I tried to make it as brief as possible without loosing the essence. Brevity is not my sister.. Feel free to use those links above and below each chapter to navigate - that's all I could make it easier for you. The topic is very huge, I still have lots of things to add, but I won't because a simple forum post can turn into a book otherwise.. This thread was inspired by my personal admiration of the great effort the generations of the lore writers and game designers performed in order to create the world of the Elder Scrolls. I marvel at their skill and those titanic scales of work they performed to make such a precisely developed world. This Guide is a kind of a description of what happens in Tamriel generally, it is a Guide aimed to show the possible in-game reasons of all the social and political problems the nations of Tamriel meet, the differences of the social development levels of all the 10 in-game races, the reasons of wars, social ethics, actions of certain rulers, etc. and first of all - the socio-economic differences between the races of Tamriel which define everything we know about them. This guide is just a description of those tamrielic socio-economic processes, the way how I see them through one of the scientific socio-economic theories.

There are many of them, all of them are worth of study because they depict the same object of scientific study from different positions and explain it really well. Thanks to their creators. Here I'll pick one of those theories and try to show the tamrielic societies from it's perspective, but first we need to start with a very brief and the most basic terminology. You might know it already though, I write it to those who don't. First it is necessary to understand here that according to this theory, society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand - there is no history of persons, there is only the history of masses.

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All the history of the Empire is the history of the most progressive socio-economic formation Tamriel has ever had. It's history began with it's feudal revolution within the Ayleid chattel slavery states, it passed through the horrific feudal absolutism and the open class conflict of local feudal aristocracy and bourgeoisie, and finally entered the age of imperialism and the first steps to building the global market. The war caused by the fascist Aldmeri Dominion is not over yet, so the fate of the Empire has been still unwritten.

The First Empire (1E 243 - 1E 2321):


Type of society: Feudal Absolutism.
Primary mean of production: Land
Method to force labor: Violence.
Opposing classes: Feudal Lords vs Bourgeoisie.
Dominant estates: Priests, Warriors, Battlemages.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Wars.
Commentary: the early 1st Era feudal revolution and Ayleid Empire "civil war" led the human slave masses to overthrow their Ayleid masters and destroy their city states along the foundation of the human-based feudal kingdoms. The land owning priests and warriors of the Alessian Order constructed a feudal absolutist state based on a strict monotheistic religion and violence both based on the Alessian Doctrines they have enforced in 1E 361 throughout Cyrodiil and Northern Tamriel - a state very similar in it's essence to the Dunmeri one. The population of the Empire could have remembered the times they were slaves themselves thus the only way to stay the feudal course, to stay powerful and boost wealth was to conquer other lands constantly. While the feudal class fought exhausting their working class (bourgeoisie and peasantry), the merchants of the Nibenay Valley along the artisans and frontier-men of the Western Colovian kingdoms began to become aware of their class identity and interests. The contradictions between the feudal type of society and the bourgeois economic basis caused a 10 year civil war named the War of Righteousness (1E 2321-1E 2331) - the Alessian Order and the First Empire itself ceased to exist. While there is no official information about how or who fought the War, the Empire's former territories solidified their independence, and its heartland, Cyrodiil, split into the Western and Eastern parts that continued to diverge culturally over the following centuries - a very useful circumstance for the burgeoning bourgeoisie.

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The Second Empire (1E 2703 - 2E 430):


Type of society: Feudalism.
Primary mean of production: Land.
Method to force labor: Violence.
Opposing classes: Feudal Lords vs Bourgeoisie.
Dominant estates: Feudal Lords, Merchants & Artisans.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Wars.
Commentary: this time is characterized by the slow destruction of old feudal order remnants of the Alessian Empire and the creation of the new bourgeois one. This is the dusk of Imperial feudalism. The Akaviri invasion allowed Reman to unite many separate kingdoms under his leadership after a 372 years of feudal disunity. His successors just like the Alessian Empire's aristocracy, being the same feudal lords, began to conquer Tamriel again. Though this time they were wise enough not use brute force only and not to propagate their religion - this time diplomacy and trade became their weapons. The policy performed by Reman II made his reign remembered as the Golden Age, it made the imperial bourgeois class really strong and thus caused two major socio-economic events of this age - the Martial Law and the Guild Act. The Potentate Versideu-Shaie came to power on Sun's Dusk 22nd 1E 2920 - in 16 days after a Morag Tong assassin killed the last Emperor Reman III. Shaie undoubtly served the interests of Morrowind feudal lords because he ratified the Cervant Truce that ended the disastrous Four Score War. But then he engaged in a relentless series of internal campaigns against his own vassals among the feudal lords which finally resulted with his victory. But the cost of the campaigns was immense, resulting in the impoverishment of both the Empire and its constituent kingdoms. In an effort to maintain order he declares martial law and bans all the private armies of the vassal kingdoms in 2E 283 thus suppressing local feudal armies and weakening their lords at the same time strengthening the Imperial bourgeoisie. In 2E 321 he dropped the other shoe and almost banned feudalism itself by signing the Guild Act - a legislative act that codified the practice of guilds throughout the Second Empire. The Guild Act officially sanctioned the guilds of Tinkers, Cobblers, Prostitutes, Scribes, Architects, Brewers, Vintners, Weavers, Ratcatchers, Furriers, Cooks, Astrologers, Healers, Tailors, Minstrels, Barristers, and others, most importantly including the Guilds of Mages and Fighters. The country entered its capitalist age. Though the guilds were required to pay levies to the Empire and to pay for any expansions in exchange for protection and encouragement from the Empire, they began to spread their business affairs over all the lands effectively erasing the last feudal throwback elements. In three years after the Act was signed Versideu-Shaie was assassinated by Morag Tong. Class treason rarely stays unpunished.

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The Third Empire(2E 854 - 4E ...):



Type of society: Imperialism.
Primary mean of production: Capital.
Method to force labor: Economical.
Opposing classes: Bourgeoisie vs Wage-workers.
Dominant estates: Business magnates.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Trade & investments.
Commentary: after centuries of class struggle the Third Empire is founded by a soldier supported by capital. It enters into the age of Imperialism, it begins to enter the highest level of capitalism development. Emperor Pelagius Septim II, who inherited a debt-ridden Empire when he ascended to the throne in 3E 82 dismissed the entire Elder Council and allowed only those willing to pay great sums to resume their seats. He encouraged similar acts among his vassals, and though he returned prosperity to Tamriel, his critics cite consequences. The most long-term effect of selling off seats on the Council was, obviously, that it became composed of the wealthiest people in the Empire. The collective power these individuals wielded would often prove equal or greater to that of the Emperor, and vicious power struggles emerged as a result. Thus in 3E 82, after a 3 655 years of struggle, the Imperial bourgeoisie finally captured the parliament and took all the plenitude of the power into their hands. This is the date of the Great Imperial Bourgeois Revolution, the Imperial feudal class was finally overthrown. The necessity to capture new commodity markets resulted in the creation of international corporations and regional monopolies. The East Empire Trading Company established in 3E 124, supported by the Imperial Legions gains a monopoly on multiple trade goods in the Imperial provinces, the Blackwood Company established in the imperial province of Black Marsh operates in Cyrodiil and rivals the Fighters Guild but falls in the competitive struggle. Lesser companies like the Imperial Trading Company also begin to rise effectively. This is the time of birth of globalization and the industrial economy.

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Type of society: Primitive communism.
Primary mean of production: Guar herds.
Method to force labor: None.
Opposing classes: None.
Dominant estates: Hunters, Gatherers, Herders.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Hunting, Herding, Fishing, Raids.
Commentary: the Ashlander society is the pre-feudal type of the Dunmeri society, it consists of multiple tribes which are the primary rivals of the more developed feudal House Dunmer society. The Ashlanders' type of society allows them to roam the most inhospitable and poor lands of Morrowind - this is the only reason the feudal lords of the Great Houses has never had any interest of conquering them entirely (see the feudal primary mean of production in the Dunmer section above). They are likely to integrate into our Great Houses' feudal society especially after the fall of the Tribunal.

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Type of society: Feudal.
Primary mean of production: Land.
Method to force labor: Violence.
Opposing classes: Feudal Lords vs Bourgeoisie.
Dominant estates: Warriors, Merchants & Artisans.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Conquests.
Commentary: a classical feudal society largely agrarian and hierarchical. Most Breton cities are sprawling trade hubs, and most of the people are either middle-class peasants or destitute beggars. Everything is just the same as in Skyrim. Their further integration into the Empire leads them to their first inevitable capitalist revolution the same way the Stormcloack Rebellion is the reaction of the old feudal order in Skyrim.

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Type of society: Capitalism.
Primary mean of production: Capital.
Method to force labor: Economical.
Opposing classes: Bourgeoisie vs Feudal Lords
Dominant estates: Crowns, Forebears, Merchant Lords.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Trade.
Commentary: the history of Redguards seems to be very similar to the one of Nords but it is not that simple. It is unknown what happened to Yokuda, but all we know is that the Ra Gada striking force was the first group of Redguards to settle in Hammerfell before the rest of their kin followed them. Crowns and Forebears are never said to be the descendants of two opposing classes of Yokuda, contrarily they seem to be of the members of same warrior estate of the Yokudan society differing only in time of their arrival to Tamriel. This allows us to speculate which type of society they had before the destruction of their homeland: since we don't have a single sign of the Yokudan working class members we can suppose the Redguard ancestors left them all to die while taking all the ships available and sailing East. Today apart from urban trading settlements, much of the Redguard society is populated by semi-nomadic tribes. During an internal war between the two tribal confederations of the Crowns and the Forebears the capitalist Empire managed to absorb the Redguard tribes in 2E 864 and civilize them the same way capitalist companies converted tribal Arabian societies into the richest capitalist societies of the world in XX century IRL.

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Type of society: Fascist.
Primary mean of production: Capital.
Method to force labor: Violence.
Opposing classes: Bourgeoisie vs Working class.
Dominant estates: At the top are the Wise, teachers and priests, followed by Artists, Princes, Warriors, Landowners, Merchants, and Workers. Below Workers were the beasts, such as the enslaved goblins.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Wars.
Commentary:

The laws of socio-economic development work on every society be it a real life one or a fictional, because the author of any art product creating a particular fictional society always tries to make it credible and logically explained in it's depiction, and has no other choice than to create the one based on the laws of the socio-economic development IRL. When we compare two societies, we have to compare the natural environment both societies lived in, then the types of property on the means of production, then the types of their economy, then their dominant and subordinate socio-economic classes, then you have to compare their socio-economic formations, and finally the type of state that is based on previously mentioned things and determines the social laws, policy, views on social ethics, morality, good and evil, etc. - everything else. This will show us that, say, the Germanic tribes have nothing equal to the WW II Germany except the fact that the people of both societies are relatives. The time span itself is indifferent here - it just shows the time it took a particular society to develop from one formation to the other, and the way it did it. Nothing new in this science has been invented in the recent century. This is why the nature of the 1st and the 3rd Aldmeri Dominions was the same all the way along. If you want an approximate example IRL, than comparing those two Dominions should be like comparing, say, the Germany of 1933 -1938 and the same Germany of 1939 - 1944.

The history of the Summerset Isles in the First Era and most of the Second is very much removed from the rest of mainland Tamriel's one, but what we do know is that in ancient times the development of the primitive Aldmeri tribes within the small territory of the Summerset Isles caused the creation of the first religion which began to destroy the ancestor worship of the tribes substituting it with a state religion developed to control and suppress the masses by declaring the nobility to be the direct descendants of the gods. Many tribes disagreed and fled east. Those were the Ayleid, Chimeri, Orcimeri, Maormeri, Bosmeri and other tribal confederations. But those who stayed enslaved goblins and other races and created a society full of racism, Altmeri supremacy and strictest hierarchy similar to some ancient slave owning empires like Rome, Egypt, Greek city states, etc. The books like Antecedents of Dwemer Law, Light Armor Forging and the Pocket Guide to the Empire show us the Altmeri society was not just nationalist - it enslaved goblins, Dunmer and possibly other races as well.

Here are some commentaries on the type of Altmeri state, it's government as an organization. The Sapiarchs, in general, as an entity, live heavily guarded and protected by the local law in insane wealth in comparison to any of the lower - "At the top are the Wise, teachers and priests, followed by Artists, Princes, Warriors, Landowners, Merchants, and Workers. Below Workers were the beasts, such as the enslaved goblins, who the Aldmer used to perform the jobs beneath the dignity of the very least of them".

Social structure. As we see it, unlike in the less progressive feudalist societies, the Landowners of the Altmeri one are not the dominant class there. They are even below artists and warriors. We also see that the workers, the majority of any society, are the lowest class there with only the goblin slaves treated worse. Since they do have slaves, but they do not have the slavemasters as a separate class - that means that the Altmeri society is 100% not a primitive chattel slavery. So, if the primary mean of production that defines the level of wealth (and thus power) is not measured neither in slaves, nor in land (like it happens in Morrowind where the richest mages of House Telvanni still fight other Houses for land - not assets or money), than it is only one thing possible - it is money, capital, commercial assets. Those who control the finance and commercial activity, control power there, just like it is in the Empire after 3E 82, the year Emperor Pelagius II will dismiss the Elder Council, so only those willing to pay great sums will be allowed to resume their seats. So, the only logical conclusion that can be made here is that as a socially progressive state (the most progressive of all in 2E 582, by the way!), the Summerset Isles are governed by financial elite who trains and appoints kings, guides them and thus defines all the policy, laws and all spheres of life, 223 in their number, with the spheres of Current Chronologies, Oblivion Studies, Indoctrination, Altmeri Heritage, Enchantment, Mythohistory, Daedric Fallacies, Selenology, Divine Orthodoxy, Foreign Observations and many other among them.

The Sapiarchs are not just scholars - they are active influential statesmer. Not mentioning that the Sapiarchs literally appoint High Kings based on the decision made after "consulting with prophecies" (the thing only they are able to do and thus to control it) and a 3555 days of the Ceremoniarchy process of "training" a future monarch, two observations here should be mentioned here: as you see it, one of those spheres I mentioned above is the Sapiarchy of the Altmeri Heritage and the reason why I have mentioned it is because the Thalmor was originally a bureau responsible for safeguarding Altmeri heritage that now functions as the executive arm of the Aldmeri Dominion with it's Fists of Thalmor acting as an effectuation unit of officers deployed when stern measures must be taken to enforce adherence to Thalmor dicta. "Dicta" - as it is said there. Perhaps Aicantar forgot to add "-torship". So we have a Sapiarch of Altmeri Heritage and a governmental enforcing service responsible for safeguarding Altmeri Heritage. Perhaps, the corresponding Sapiarch is just an advisor to them? Maybe. Another of those spheres of "pure study and advice" is the Sapiarchy of Indoctrination led by Sapiarch Aicantar of Shimmerene I've mentioned earlier. This Sapiarchy is a much better evidence that the Sapiarchs are not just scholars and advisors - they are the ones who define policy. Among many of his writings Aicantar is the author of the Thalmor Handbill and the one who endorsed the Thalmor response to the citizen requests. Since he is not just a mere scholar, but a statesman bearing the power to govern, it is very interesting to see what doctrines the Sapiarch of Indoctrination publishes. Here are some of his quotes:
1. On Dunmer - "Our unfortunate cousins of Morrowind are double apostates .. have been doubly punished by divine curse for their sins of hubris and heresy. .. they do have certain, shall we say, talents that have been honed by hardship, skills that will enable them to find appropriate employment in the Tamriel-wide Dominion to come. If they trust to our wisdom and guidance, they will survive, and even thrive, as citizens of the Dominion. Once they earn that status, of course";
2. On Bretons and Orcs - "The Bretons are also so indiscriminate that they have accepted the bestial Orsimer as allies. (Orsimer! Can you imagine?) Though capable of mustering substantial brute force, there is no evidence that these degraded hybrids have the wisdom or learning to deal with the mystical disaster now threatening the Mundus. They must be disciplined and subdued as rapidly as possible";
3. On Bosmer and Khajiit - "Our Bosmeri hunters must provide food for our civilians as well as our soldiers. Our Khajiiti traders must provide goods as well as weapons";
4. On all human nations - "heedless and impetuous human nations";
5. On High Elves - "Elves shall rule Tamriel from White-Gold … this time, forever.";
6. On Nords and Argonians - "simple Nords and the slave-lizard Argonians".
As you see it, they have a place for everyone in their future they are planning to build - he's speaking of common people, not the ruling structures, as you see it. Some phrases might seem not that strong - below you'll see what the Dominion military did to Argonians.

On the regular Dominion Army. I thought that the burned settlements and towns, murdered civilians, families who lost their relatives and necromancy on the battlefield and other crimes performed by the Covenant in the ESO Ebonheart Pact solo campaign were the worst things of the Three Banners War. But no, then I came to Argonia. The regular Dominion military commited things unimaginable even to the worst of the Dres slavemasters and Covenant invaders combined. Here are just three common things of what the Dominion did to a playable sentient humanoid race:
1. They literally eat children - "A Dominion dryskin cooked and ate one of our unhatched eggs! .. Make the egg he consumed his final meal! Spill his blood upon the ground, where it may feed the roots of future generations. Show we fight to protect our young".
2. They commit mass slaughter of children - "They murdered our hatchlings, our children. Why?".
3. They commit atrocities in Argonia acknowledged even by the Dunmer - "They bring nothing to this land but abomination".
4. They openly perform atrocities and mass murder sanctioned and directly ordered by their high command:
"Private Glalor: They're almost like the spinners from back home. Couldn't we spare them, sir?
Lieutenant Aldononde: "What part of "no survivors" don't you understand, private? These savages are the enemy. Once they complete the ritual, they die like the rest".
This is how the Dominion fights a war against Argonians whom they simply call slave-lizards and savages. It's not hard to imagine how would they fight other races. Anyway, these cases are just some of the worst ones, the ones the developers were able to show by means of the smaller scale game mechanics and quests. How many such cases could be registered from the in-lore event scales?

Conclusion. Here I remind that we are speaking of the Second Era Dominion only - the one some players called not that monstrous in comparison to the Dominion of the 4th Era. Those numbers in the Dominion name mean nothing, actually - all along it has been the same highly developed Tamrielic state ruled on the basis of kinship and racial purity by a small circle of members of the financial elite who appoint the local High King, control the society through various "spheres of study", "Thalmor Dicta" and the Justiciars, they define policy and control local laws, ethics, etc., with the majority of their population (workers are always the majority in any population) being placed at the bottom of the society ladder close to thd goblin slaves and thus treated the worst, a state tolerating no other religion and beliefs, in it's foreign policy - a state planning and performing the open terrorist vengeance against common people of other countries to whom they plan to give a "proper" place under their reign or eliminate them entirely if they refuse to work for them. We see a bestial hatred directed towards other Tamriel races and atrocities unimaginable in the Tamrielic history since the age of the Ayleid Empire and the Falmeri fall caused by the Dwemer. Imagine what happens if the Dominion wins and conquers all of Tamriel or at least a large part of it. There are many definitions of the phenomenon portrayed in the image of the Aldmeri Dominion. Since definition is a complex of features immanent to an object or a phenomenon throughout the process of it's establishment and development, you can choose any of them you like, but I guess the most brief among them might be this one offered by a man who faced the phenomenon toe on toe: "Fascism is the open, terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, and most imperialist elements of finance capital".

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Type of society: Socialism.
Primary mean of production: Industrial enterprises.
Method to force labor: Economical.
Opposing classes: Wage-workers vs Bourgeoisie.
Dominant estates: Clockwork Apostles, Auxiliaries, Tarnished.
Basic economic resource replenish method: Production of the means of production.
Commentary: a pure socialist internationalist state based on two general socialist principles: 1. From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution. 2. Almost free basic consumer services to each working member of the society (food, medicine, dwelling, education, transport, etc.). The goal of the society is to build "Tamriel Final" - communism, I suppose since it is so inspired by the Dwemer technologies, though it is not stated directly. Four major groups of people exist in the Clockwork City: the Clockwork Apostles - scientists, naturalists, engineers, heads of the enterprises. To become an apostle, you need to have great skill in magic or machinery or have some other skill worthy. Those who lack the skill in machinery or magic required to become a Clockwork Apostle but have another desirable skill are referred to as Auxiliaries. They can be skilled adventurers for hire or they may have a trade and be merchant, craftsmen, factory workers and perform other community services. Workplaces are also predefined: merchants sell their goods in the Chancel of Transaction, craftsmen reside in the Hall of Refined Techniques, carpenters go to sell their furniture in the Domicile Enhancement Hub, etc. Those who do not wish to work for the good of all society are cast out and join the ranks of the Tarnished. The Tarnished live in the slums of Slag Town and in the outlaws refuge. They feel abandoned by the Clockwork Apostles and often have to rely on themselves to get by because the apostles do little to help the Tarnished out - see the 1st general socialist principle mentioned above to understand why. The one who does not work, does not eat. The fourth group is represented by outsiders who are called exodromals. As any socialist state IRL the borders of the Clockwork City are closed - few may travel there, fewer may become citizens, even fewer can leave it. A fully self-sufficient society. Just like a crew of a submarine. What did you expect from a society living in such a harsh environment like the Clockwork City? Capitalism? They'd all die there - the City is not Tamriel with its rich flora & fauna and good climate. So socialism is the only way to survive there for each denizen and thus for the entire society.

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Here I'd like to share the views on socio-economic aspect of the war so many of us fight in Cyrodiil. Some of you might think this war is just a struggle for power, a struggle to rule or to stay free - yes, it is indeed, but it is only a consequence, not the reason. Having read the previous chapters you now see what societies are engaged:
Aldmeri Dominion: a fascist capitalist Altmeri state with it's less developed and internally separated satellites;
Daggerfall Covenant: a classical feudal kingdom supported by a bit less developed but strong tribal societies;
Ebonheart Pact: a union of two strong feudal states supported by a primitive tribal confederation.

The war started in 2E 580 and there are certain reasons of it: Molag Bal, the Planemeld, etc., but the major internal event of the Empire which preceded the war was the Guild Act I've described in the Second Empire chapter above. The chronology of what I say here is the following:
2E 321 - the Guild Act is signed.
2E 430 - Potentate Savirien-Chorak dies after his 106 year rule ending the Second Empire.
2E 580 - the War begins.
2E 896 - the Third Empire proclaimed.
3E 82 - the final victory of the tamrielic bourgeoisie.

This war is generally not the war of states, armies, individuals or even Alliances - this is definitely the Guild War first. The overwhelming majority of the participants are players who are members of 1-5 guilds each. Guilds are the first bourgeois enterprises of the feudal societies, guilds are the first to directly claim keeps and resources while field armies, Alliances and feudal lords are secondary. This war is a bourgeois competitive war of numerous guilds which will strengthen them and bring considerable power. The only parties who suffer losses here and win nothing are the presently dominant feudal lords and common folks.

By the way, speaking from the same perspective: Sorcerer, Nightblade, Dragon Knight, etc. are neither classes nor estates and not even professions. Here is my definition of those classes: a character's class is a predefined complex of skills and knowledge, a result of a particular course of study which grants a character the ability to perform certain functions within the social division of labour in any system so that a character may specialize (specialization). In other words, game class is a type of education a character acquires. For example, characters with a Sorcerer education can have many professions: a healer, a tank, an enchanter, a soldier, a scholar, etc. It's only the matter of certain skills they use, their views, beliefs and.. some economic demands - the benefits of some educational programs may be changed from patch to a patch. That's it.

Thank you much for reading, I hope that was interesting! Have a good day!

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I agree with you, @gepe87, I think I should have made it more detailed regarding the historical periods of the development of the Altmeri society the same way I did in the Empire part. Maybe I'll have some time to add that First and Second Aldmeri Dominion parts to the Altmeri section some day. Regarding mercantilism and oligarchy - this is largely the matter of terminology we use. Some people might understand the term "Oligarchy" as the "financial banking elite" only rather than the "power of a small number of people distinguished by nobility, wealth, education or corporate, religious, political, or military control". So, I haven't used that term exactly because of that, though I agree with your thoughts.

I haven't used the term Mercantilism either because in some definition systems it is viewed as an economic policy that can be provided within a certain type of society, but not the type of society itself. But all the theories share almost the same views, say, on feudalism. For example, our local historiography and scientific terms do not use that "Primitive communism" term I used up there - the same notion is called a bit different there, it shares nothing with the words "primitive" and especially "communism", so I was not even aware that "primitive communism" had existed as a term somewhere until I studied it from some foreign perspectives. These are some cultural differences we have IRL, I think, but I tried to use more internationally equal terms in my Guide as far as I could. Thank you for reading !