It reallu depends on more factors.

Do you play random BGs only? From magicka side you have Magplar best suited for this with honorable mentions being magsorc and magblade. From stamina perspective Stamwarden and Stamplar are the best suited for that.

Do you play specific BGs only? Which?
Deathmatch: I would go with any stamina bruiser with Two Hander. Stamwarden is king here but probably stamDK would be my bet due to drasticaly increased survivability and zero need for mobility in DM mode.
Land Grab: You need to invest a lot more into out-of-combat mobility, therefore classes with high mobility such as Sorcerer are very good.
Flag Games: If you go with turtling strategy (take chaosball and def it till the very end) you will need some super tanky build and class. The best classes for this are Magplar, StamDK and Magwarden.

What is your MMR? The higher is your MMR (an invisible personal number that increases after every match and is used for matchmaking purposes) the more likely you are encounter super unkillable tanks and no glass cannons. High MMR Deathmatches usualy contain 3-4 unkillable tanks in every team and end by 15 minute with no team reaching 500 points. I recommend doing the same. The higher is your MMR the more you should invest into survivability if you don't want to kill no-one but get killed frequently.

Final words would be: In my opinion, the best suitted class for solo BGs no matter the mode and MMR is magplar. You can customize and adapt it to any situation.

Magplar is my winner here.

Currenlty Magwarden with accelrating Draing from vampire skill line is broken. You want something awesome and fun, 2H stamplar mate, power of light, toppeling charge, jabs and or unslaught with executioner its really fun. Have fun.

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

WoppaBoem wrote: »

Currenlty Magwarden with accelrating Draing from vampire skill line is broken. You want something awesome and fun, 2H stamplar mate, power of light, toppeling charge, jabs and or unslaught with executioner its really fun. Have fun.

You know, i was actually wondering about this bro. Do you use topperling charge on a stam templar? I really like the visuals and feel of that skill but i didnt think it was efficient on a stam char?

Well in CP its most efficient as it procs of balance and with CP you do 10% more damage. However I just really like the skill the gap closer into stun. I use tri-stat food or drink depending on sets with BGs and get around 13K magica. I use this for toppeling and extended ritual. I am really liking it and for all what I come across I top tier atm on my server expect the magwarden with the broken vampire drain.

Build looks good except you don't have a stun and or longer duration snair or immobilize, so you don't have any CC that is a bit of pain to play with I find. You can fix this with hindering poison do.

I sent you my 2 builds in DM. Check them out. You cleary have a bit of diffence in playstyle looking at your draft build but just try out and you will get there. Stamplar are is a good place. 2H-er is in a good place with execute and unslaught and that lovely 30% stam recovery after a kill is just awesome in BG's.

Solo...bg? What?

Kel wrote: »

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

WoppaBoem wrote: »

Currenlty Magwarden with accelrating Draing from vampire skill line is broken. You want something awesome and fun, 2H stamplar mate, power of light, toppeling charge, jabs and or unslaught with executioner its really fun. Have fun.

You know, i was actually wondering about this bro. Do you use topperling charge on a stam templar? I really like the visuals and feel of that skill but i didnt think it was efficient on a stam char?

Truth might be worth a look if you're going with the Toppling Charge/off balance playstyle. CP off balance damage won't be a help in no-cp battlegrounds.

https://eso-sets.com/set/armor-of-truth

The only advantage of setting someone off balance is the extra damage you get with the CP talents? Thanks for the info and the link to the armor.

If I were new ( can't seem to stop playing stam NB ) I would pick a Stam Sorc.

There was a Stam Sorc that was on EP last night that killed everything in its way. I was one of the fools that kept going back and trying to kill him. 1v1 no problem, 1v2 no problem 1v5 no problem. The guy was a beast and should be named "The Punisher".

Templar and Dragonknight. Defense, offense, group assist, self healing. Easy to learn and contribute meaningfully.

I should clarify my above answer with the fact that I tend to play mostly solo in BGs, I random Q and aim to be a 1-man army to bolster my team as a split away. As such I need answers to any and all situations I can get. I need to be tanky, and deal dps, and heal, kill at range and close range etc..

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I agree with magplar, and don’t think a stam class is the way to go.

I understood what you’re looking for is solo queuing and being adaptable to any situation? Yea then magplar it is.

The reason why magplar is in one spec you can easily adapt from being a healer to a damage dealer, plus you can take out players yourself. Get a team of newish players who pve so aren’t healing themselves? Go healer. Get a BG with two healers and a tank so damage is lacking: go full dps. I don’t think there’s a stamina class that’s as adaptable.

I’ll link the build I use, but I’ve even won some BGs where it was 2 of us against two teams of 4. It’s not an ‘I win’ class, but adapting to be able to cover group weaknesses negates the disadvantage of getting random players from solo queuing BGs.

Awsome advice. Thank you. It makes sense and i Will take it into concideration when getting my next char ready. Would you mind linking that build? @Iskiab

Here's the spec I play @Mariusghost84

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=189573
(I heal in other settings and sometimes leave the ritual mundus and it performs just as well)

Basic combo is: Light - Toppling - Sweeps spam, or if there's a tanky DK: Light - Dark Flare - Toppling - Sweeps spam (Dark Flare is also good for those Warden cross healing premades).

I usually hang back a bit at the start of a match to see how things are going to play out and heal, lots of heavies on my resto bar. Once people have blown their ults or someone's under pressure I pounce and finish people off. It's also good to hang back to see who you're playing with, there are lots of good solo players and the good ones will quickly adapt to their team so you'll do well. I remember there was one DK who's follow my dark flares and time their burst around it, stuff like that, almost as a rule of thumb those who run off at the start are lost causes. I tend to only ult against multiple people when I'm trying to down lots of people at once, or if someone's annoying me. If you see lots of people beating on one tank, back up so you don't get ulted and dark flare, they'll go down. Against blockers sweeps spam to deplete their stamina. I use mist every time I'm immobilized basicly to save stamina. 2x swift is also really important for mist form so you don't get run down by stamina. Instead let them sprint, line of sight them, quickly heal up and pounce on them when they chase, almost guaranteed they'll be low stam from sprinting and not be able to break free and won't have defensive buffs up.

The only annoying thing about templar you'll have to get used to is there's no guarantee any heals you do will hit yourself. When you're low you sorta have to turn away from the group to heal yourself a lot.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Don't do solo Bgs. Its a team game.

Agreed, but queueing solo is fine, just be aware of your team mates and play off them and you'll be fine, against a premade or not.

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

It reallu depends on more factors.

Do you play random BGs only? From magicka side you have Magplar best suited for this with honorable mentions being magsorc and magblade. From stamina perspective Stamwarden and Stamplar are the best suited for that.

Do you play specific BGs only? Which?
Deathmatch: I would go with any stamina bruiser with Two Hander. Stamwarden is king here but probably stamDK would be my bet due to drasticaly increased survivability and zero need for mobility in DM mode.
Land Grab: You need to invest a lot more into out-of-combat mobility, therefore classes with high mobility such as Sorcerer are very good.
Flag Games: If you go with turtling strategy (take chaosball and def it till the very end) you will need some super tanky build and class. The best classes for this are Magplar, StamDK and Magwarden.

What is your MMR? The higher is your MMR (an invisible personal number that increases after every match and is used for matchmaking purposes) the more likely you are encounter super unkillable tanks and no glass cannons. High MMR Deathmatches usualy contain 3-4 unkillable tanks in every team and end by 15 minute with no team reaching 500 points. I recommend doing the same. The higher is your MMR the more you should invest into survivability if you don't want to kill no-one but get killed frequently.

Final words would be: In my opinion, the best suitted class for solo BGs no matter the mode and MMR is magplar. You can customize and adapt it to any situation.

Magplar is my winner here.

How do you know if you have high MMR if it's an invisible number ?
I happen to get into a few BG's like that, unkillable tanks and long match that ends after the timer, but it feels like it's random, sometimes i'll get those matches and others times i'll be against very squishy playeers

Reyleigh wrote: »

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

It reallu depends on more factors.

Do you play random BGs only? From magicka side you have Magplar best suited for this with honorable mentions being magsorc and magblade. From stamina perspective Stamwarden and Stamplar are the best suited for that.

Do you play specific BGs only? Which?
Deathmatch: I would go with any stamina bruiser with Two Hander. Stamwarden is king here but probably stamDK would be my bet due to drasticaly increased survivability and zero need for mobility in DM mode.
Land Grab: You need to invest a lot more into out-of-combat mobility, therefore classes with high mobility such as Sorcerer are very good.
Flag Games: If you go with turtling strategy (take chaosball and def it till the very end) you will need some super tanky build and class. The best classes for this are Magplar, StamDK and Magwarden.

What is your MMR? The higher is your MMR (an invisible personal number that increases after every match and is used for matchmaking purposes) the more likely you are encounter super unkillable tanks and no glass cannons. High MMR Deathmatches usualy contain 3-4 unkillable tanks in every team and end by 15 minute with no team reaching 500 points. I recommend doing the same. The higher is your MMR the more you should invest into survivability if you don't want to kill no-one but get killed frequently.

Final words would be: In my opinion, the best suitted class for solo BGs no matter the mode and MMR is magplar. You can customize and adapt it to any situation.

Magplar is my winner here.

How do you know if you have high MMR if it's an invisible number ?
I happen to get into a few BG's like that, unkillable tanks and long match that ends after the timer, but it feels like it's random, sometimes i'll get those matches and others times i'll be against very squishy playeers

I’m not sure, I get a sense I am when I see the same people in most of my games. I think it’s safe to assume you are at 1k+ BGs played.

On my old main I was, I rerolled templar and now am not. I had to reroll again because my pvp guild switched factions and was not.

ImSoPro wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Don't do solo Bgs. Its a team game.

Agreed, but queueing solo is fine, just be aware of your team mates and play off them and you'll be fine, against a premade or not.

Unless it’s the premade I ran into the other day that had two healers that heal for over 200k 3 mins in the game and another that healed for over 100k. I was 0-2 with 230k dmg and the premade ran up the score to 150+ quickly. All within like 3 mins. I left immediately.

Usually those teams dominate if you have weak team mates. If people aren’t healing themselves, you get too many NBs on your team, or people are running off doing their own thing then yea, you aren’t going to win.

It can also happen if people are too tanky so can’t kill anyone. If people on your team are tanky, you can win as long as everyone’s focus firing making a pure healer a downside to your team. A lot of times all people need is a little push to down them, so having someone pure heal can be a negative.

I pure healed in BGs and figured this out the hard way. If your team can’t kill anyone you’ll have impressive healing done but no win. As soon as I went healer and then damage dealer when my team was pushing my win rate shot up. Lol, on that magtemplar build I linked I’d say my win rate, but because I rerolled so am getting easier matches and people would cry OP.