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  • Aria
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    If they wanted to make a "seperate" mega ftp server fine just don't expect me to be on it!

    Otherwise no thank you on the ftp!
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  • raglau
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    The only thing making it near F2P material are the morons in game, once their free month ends and they have to stump up some hard cash they'll disappear onto the next free ride.
    Chomag wrote: »

    This game is already f2p material, it will just take a little time for ZOS to realize it.

  • jsilva.casteloub17_ESO
    Guys you thinking of a 12yo perspective if you been part of corporate America you understand what I'm saying.

    And I don't mean Fast food restaurants I'm saying Fortune 500 corps.

    Dear god... you have no idea what you're saying do you? Just stop posting please.

    Oh and mcdonalds is a "f500"
  • Nigredo
    Nigredo
    Like I said before for everyone having issues there are 1000s and 1000s who are not. Most of these issues only seem to affect a few people (access codes) and others are issues people brought on themselves (like paying for value shipping and expecting to play until the game arrives in the mail for free). This has been the smoothest launch of a MMO in recent history.

    O.o deluded much?
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  • jsilva.casteloub17_ESO
    Mitrenga wrote: »
    I cancel my sub following the minute this game goes F2P. Oh wait..

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  • Bunk
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    What exactly is broken?
    I am unable to play for 2 days now due to the patch. yes I have read the forums and reinstalled and did the whole .version files for 8 hours yesterday. game just keeps going in a loop of install/repair. I know not everyone is having it as bad as me, and that's ok, but I unsubbed and am pending a refund.
    You are aware that you can run the game without the launcher... right?

    idiot
  • the.dzeneralb16_ESO
    It's funny because the only people who appear to think this game will go F2P are either bad at the game, don't enjoy the lore (and don't read and try to actually play the game), or are just angry about something outside the game instead
  • N1LegionXDeath
    It's funny because the only people who appear to think this game will go F2P are either bad at the game, don't enjoy the lore (and don't read and try to actually play the game), or are just angry about something outside the game instead

    let the kiddo be o3o and lets Zenimax crushes their dreams of ESO being f2p
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  • Chomag
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    It's funny because the only people who appear to think this game will go F2P are either bad at the game, don't enjoy the lore (and don't read and try to actually play the game), or are just angry about something outside the game instead

    let the kiddo be o3o and lets Zenimax crushes their dreams of ESO being f2p

    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D
  • felixgamingx1
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    squicker wrote: »
    The only thing making it near F2P material are the morons in game, once their free month ends and they have to stump up some hard cash they'll disappear onto the next free ride.
    Chomag wrote: »

    This game is already f2p material, it will just take a little time for ZOS to realize it.

    Morons? You take your gaming tooserious...
  • radiostar
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    What exactly is broken?
    I am unable to play for 2 days now due to the patch. yes I have read the forums and reinstalled and did the whole .version files for 8 hours yesterday. game just keeps going in a loop of install/repair. I know not everyone is having it as bad as me, and that's ok, but I unsubbed and am pending a refund.

    Bypass the launcher program. Go directly to the ESO application in the Zenimax folder and run it.

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  • N1LegionXDeath
    radiostar wrote: »
    What exactly is broken?
    I am unable to play for 2 days now due to the patch. yes I have read the forums and reinstalled and did the whole .version files for 8 hours yesterday. game just keeps going in a loop of install/repair. I know not everyone is having it as bad as me, and that's ok, but I unsubbed and am pending a refund.

    Bypass the launcher program. Go directly to the ESO application in the Zenimax folder and run it.

    what bout the update Zos gonna do? o3o run the luncher once and then only use ESO.exe till next update?
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  • epoling
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    Hmmmm.... a game that is officially out less than two weeks and the negative nancy's are proclaiming it' horrible and will be F2P in a very short time. These are people who have chosen to be unhappy with everything in life. They don't care that the problems are relatively minor, that the majority on any game forum are the minority in the game, and that trolling is really silly, as people start to see through them after a while. These same folks now bad mouthing ZOS / Bethesda will be here a year from now spewing garbage all over the place for whatever new reasons they can find.
  • Saerydoth
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    radiostar wrote: »
    What exactly is broken?
    I am unable to play for 2 days now due to the patch. yes I have read the forums and reinstalled and did the whole .version files for 8 hours yesterday. game just keeps going in a loop of install/repair. I know not everyone is having it as bad as me, and that's ok, but I unsubbed and am pending a refund.

    Bypass the launcher program. Go directly to the ESO application in the Zenimax folder and run it.

    There's an easier fix.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/80209/found-the-root-cause-of-many-login-issues-with-workaround-for-error-209#latest
  • snowmanflvb14_ESO
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    First, this thread should be moved to game discussion not the CS area.
    Second, the CS most of us have received if far above anything we would receive in a F2P game. Look at the CS players receive in any of the PWE games such as NWo or STO the list goes on and on with examples of the poor csr in f2p games. Third, you apparently do not know that on average players spend more per-month in fees in a F2P game than a sub based one. The difference is everyone pays the same fee. This also means a company has a constant and predetermined cash flow. Additionally, instead of spending time and funds designing new items to go into a cash shop a sub based game dev team can spend the time and funds developing new content for the game.
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  • the.dzeneralb16_ESO
    Yeah. If you don't think this game launch was fairly solid then you haven't played enough launches (think WoW's launch for one).
    Chomag wrote: »
    It's funny because the only people who appear to think this game will go F2P are either bad at the game, don't enjoy the lore (and don't read and try to actually play the game), or are just angry about something outside the game instead

    let the kiddo be o3o and lets Zenimax crushes their dreams of ESO being f2p

    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D

    Then I think you vastly underestimate the amount of people who have already bought and subbed to this game.

  • Chomag
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    Yeah. If you don't think this game launch was fairly solid then you haven't played enough launches (think WoW's launch for one).
    Chomag wrote: »
    It's funny because the only people who appear to think this game will go F2P are either bad at the game, don't enjoy the lore (and don't read and try to actually play the game), or are just angry about something outside the game instead

    let the kiddo be o3o and lets Zenimax crushes their dreams of ESO being f2p

    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D

    Then I think you vastly underestimate the amount of people who have already bought and subbed to this game.

    Just as I have vastly underestimated the amount of SW nerds ?

    I bought tha game too. Played it for 2 weeks and decided it's terrible. Just because I bought it doesn't mean I'm a fan of it nor that I will actually sub once the free time is over, which I won't.
    Edited by Chomag on April 16, 2014 8:43PM
  • drake1980
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    No just no as played so many F2P games myself I really do not want this to go F2P.

    Not a fan of cash shops most the time they start to lean into putting in P2W items in there. Only cash shop I did not mind was Guild Wars 2 because it gave me the option to buy the gems with money or in game gold, and since people could buy gems and sell them to the system for gold it tends to ussaly work out in the end ( not to also mention that gold in that game only gets you so much too. )

    But no do not want this going F2P they just need to get a handle on things once they do it will start to go way better.
  • babylon
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    Chomag wrote: »
    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D
    Do you just stalk games and hope they die or something?
    Edited by babylon on April 16, 2014 8:48PM
  • Chomag
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    babylon wrote: »
    Chomag wrote: »
    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D
    Do you just stalk games and hope they die or something?

    No, I'm terribly disappointed and frustrated with the game and this forum stalking is a cathartic experience...until I get banned, which I will be.
  • zgrssd
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    Hello ZOS I think we should just admit our mistakes here not a lot of people going to continue paying subs with the quality of service we've been receiving.
    As far as games in general and MMO's in particular go, this game is smooth as Spidersilk.

    If you don't want to continue to sub I have only one thing to say: Bye bye!

    Have fun with whatever you do and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
    If the game is not worth subbing for you we both are better of without you in it.
    Just think if we ended up in the same dungeon and you just quit at me because of a sudden attack of disinterest, now that would be marginally annoying for me.

    If it becomes f2p in a few years that is okay for me. But for now it is way worth the money.
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  • babylon
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    Chomag wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Chomag wrote: »
    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D
    Do you just stalk games and hope they die or something?

    No, I'm terribly disappointed and frustrated with the game and this forum stalking is a cathartic experience...until I get banned, which I will be.
    What's so disappointing about this game for you?
  • felixgamingx1
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    radiostar wrote: »
    What exactly is broken?
    I am unable to play for 2 days now due to the patch. yes I have read the forums and reinstalled and did the whole .version files for 8 hours yesterday. game just keeps going in a loop of install/repair. I know not everyone is having it as bad as me, and that's ok, but I unsubbed and am pending a refund.

    Bypass the launcher program. Go directly to the ESO application in the Zenimax folder and run it.

    what bout the update Zos gonna do? o3o run the luncher once and then only use ESO.exe till next update?

    IKR!? It's not very professional.
  • Chomag
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    babylon wrote: »
    Chomag wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Chomag wrote: »
    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D
    Do you just stalk games and hope they die or something?

    No, I'm terribly disappointed and frustrated with the game and this forum stalking is a cathartic experience...until I get banned, which I will be.
    What's so disappointing about this game for you?

    I made a long list somewhere, guess it got buried. Bottom line is the game is boring, has some annoying features and lacks some other features and I don't like it. This after I flamed whiners and doom sayers, and now I seem to have joined them.
  • N1LegionXDeath
    radiostar wrote: »
    What exactly is broken?
    I am unable to play for 2 days now due to the patch. yes I have read the forums and reinstalled and did the whole .version files for 8 hours yesterday. game just keeps going in a loop of install/repair. I know not everyone is having it as bad as me, and that's ok, but I unsubbed and am pending a refund.

    Bypass the launcher program. Go directly to the ESO application in the Zenimax folder and run it.

    what bout the update Zos gonna do? o3o run the luncher once and then only use ESO.exe till next update?

    IKR!? It's not very professional.

    YOU! stay out of this. let the adult talk..
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  • UnknownXV
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    Harkrider wrote: »
    If you think F2P means you won't be paying for anything, perhaps you should look at examples of said payment model.

    I'm totally fine with them having a store to buy in game stuff.

    I am not. Not even for cosmetic items. I am defined by my skill in crafting. If you can purchase items with real money that boost your aesthetic beyond that which I can craft, I lose out. It steals an element of undefinable magic from the game. I despise F2P.
  • AngryNord
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    Chomag wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Chomag wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Chomag wrote: »
    I have saved this thread. Hopefully it won't be deleted several months from now. I will have tons of laughs as ZOS announces their f2p plans, just as I had tons of laughs when Bioware did it for swtor inspite of the biodrones yelling swtor is the best mmo ever. :D
    Do you just stalk games and hope they die or something?

    No, I'm terribly disappointed and frustrated with the game and this forum stalking is a cathartic experience...until I get banned, which I will be.
    What's so disappointing about this game for you?

    I made a long list somewhere, guess it got buried. Bottom line is the game is boring, has some annoying features and lacks some other features and I don't like it. This after I flamed whiners and doom sayers, and now I seem to have joined them.

    Boring??? There are alot of things you can say about this game, but BORING???
  • logansandmannnub18_ESO
    Honestly I also believe its going to go ftp. Not immediately by any means since they don't have nearly the money to back this failure long enough to GO ftp if it has to. But really this is the worst launch I've done so far. I've never seen a game where every function of it was broken at release there is no thing you can do in this game and not possibly run into a glitch between the storage, skill points, alliance points, collision detection*every *** staircase and monkeys STILL are solid objects that get me stuck occasionally despite what they said I literally was trapped because I went into a dungeon and someone's monkey was summoned in the same spot as me trapping me until he walked away after trying to get me to use /stuck*, the flippin launcher*finally finished reinstalling to get THAT working again*, the mail, the quests necessary for advancement, etc. I really enjoy playing it but I've given up on playing this game until Friday and I just have to hope that fix doesn't cause something else horrendous. I want them to get their act together but I don't know how many of the people they attracted are going to be around once this month is over when the prevailing thing I've heard through out these forums is just people saying when the free time is done they are out because of how many of these problems are still around after being reported in beta*most notably the bank issue*.
  • felixgamingx1
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    Honestly I also believe its going to go ftp. Not immediately by any means since they don't have nearly the money to back this failure long enough to GO ftp if it has to. But really this is the worst launch I've done so far. I've never seen a game where every function of it was broken at release there is no thing you can do in this game and not possibly run into a glitch between the storage, skill points, alliance points, collision detection*every *** staircase and monkeys STILL are solid objects that get me stuck occasionally despite what they said I literally was trapped because I went into a dungeon and someone's monkey was summoned in the same spot as me trapping me until he walked away after trying to get me to use /stuck*, the flippin launcher*finally finished reinstalling to get THAT working again*, the mail, the quests necessary for advancement, etc. I really enjoy playing it but I've given up on playing this game until Friday and I just have to hope that fix doesn't cause something else horrendous. I want them to get their act together but I don't know how many of the people they attracted are going to be around once this month is over when the prevailing thing I've heard through out these forums is just people saying when the free time is done they are out because of how many of these problems are still around after being reported in beta*most notably the bank issue*.

    Agreed

  • Vuldan_Ironhand
    90% of you do not have the first freakin clue??? Stop guessing and second guessing, and get on with it. Sub or Un-sub, I don't care. ESO is going to be around a long time, and many of you will be proven wrong over and over again. Last, if you can do a better job, put up or STFU. Create a better game yourself, or quit running your mouth about something you know nothing about.
    Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on April 16, 2014 10:10PM
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