Make rapid regen a self heal only. Problem solved.
Healers don’t use rapid regen, it makes sense.
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MORE HEALING SKILLS!!!
Echoing is for groups, while resolving is for solo.
Is that so difficult to understand?
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
This idea would not make sense. It is a skill that is part of a weapon line designed and dedicated to healing others. There is not a single skill dedicated to the caster.
Granted, the idea of this thread is about homogenization.
Kali_Despoine wrote: »those of you who say mag toons carrying a resto staff on the back bar is just as efficient as vigor on stam are morons
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
This idea would not make sense. It is a skill that is part of a weapon line designed and dedicated to healing others. There is not a single skill dedicated to the caster.
Granted, the idea of this thread is about homogenization.
No. Restoration staff is made to HEAL. There is not written anywhere it's made to heal only others. If we could have ONE morph that is just self heal world wouldn't end. Period.
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
This idea would not make sense. It is a skill that is part of a weapon line designed and dedicated to healing others. There is not a single skill dedicated to the caster.
Granted, the idea of this thread is about homogenization.
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
This idea would not make sense. It is a skill that is part of a weapon line designed and dedicated to healing others. There is not a single skill dedicated to the caster.
Granted, the idea of this thread is about homogenization.
Then they shouldn't have made Rapid Regen mirror pre-late-nerfed Resolving Vigor, in everything except targeting. I'm simply asking that they actually complete what they started, when they messed with Rapid Regen. Especially since Radiating Regen is very likely to be be next up on the chopping block, since healing is such a big issue. I'd like to have a HoT that's actually good, and reliable, which Rapid Regen isn't.
Make rapid regen a self heal only. Problem solved.
Healers don’t use rapid regen, it makes sense.
Make rapid regen a self heal only. Problem solved.
Healers don’t use rapid regen, it makes sense.
No, thank you. What's needed is a reliable self-heal that's not dependent on equipping a specific weapon or double-slotting. The notion that I'm to equip a healing staff, giving up either destro staff or S&B passives on that bar, and not have the ability to heal others unless I slot a second ability is really limiting.
BalticBlues wrote: »Playing with two 2x DESTRO is way more DPS-efficient than 1x Destro plus one lame Resto.
Why only StamPlayers should have the benefit to use 2x Damage Weapons plus Vigor?
Combining 1x Destro plus SnB is also a cool PvP option, I love this to use on my MagTemplar,
but due to the lack of a MagVigor, it does not work for classes without ad-hoc self-heals.
ZOS, please give MagPlayers a MagVigor morph to open non-resto gameplay to all MagClasses.
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
This idea would not make sense. It is a skill that is part of a weapon line designed and dedicated to healing others. There is not a single skill dedicated to the caster.
Granted, the idea of this thread is about homogenization.
Then they shouldn't have made Rapid Regen mirror pre-late-nerfed Resolving Vigor, in everything except targeting. I'm simply asking that they actually complete what they started, when they messed with Rapid Regen. Especially since Radiating Regen is very likely to be be next up on the chopping block, since healing is such a big issue. I'd like to have a HoT that's actually good, and reliable, which Rapid Regen isn't.
I agree they should not have changed RR as they did. It was a lazy approach to fixing the bug with regen imo. That is not justification of continuing homogenization. Run the rStaff if you want a similar skill.
I do not understand what is going to happen if they give a Magicka version of VIGOR to magicka players... Why Stam users are so afraid of that????
I also Main Stam but it is ok for me i do not afraid magicka to have VIGOR.....What is making you so uncomfortable!!!
it is better that Magicka heals???!!! or What???
Because it'd require giving up a morph of Vigor, which now requires giving up either the selfish or the group morph, since the two are now split. How would magicka users like to give up some morphs of damage skills, since stam are pigeonholed into running weapon skills, and maybe we don't want to run weapon skills on more than half of our skill slots? No? Then stop asking for stam to give up a morph of its only reliable heal, because you don't want to run resto staff.
Magicka already has a skill similar in functionality to Vigor, with Rapid Regen. As I've explained, magicka has more of a reason to run resto on back, since they don't have as large a variety in weapon choices as stamina, so running resto isn't a valid excuse for taking a morph from stam. Literally all you have to do is change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, no targeting allies, and magicka has literally an exact mirror of Vigor, that is in fact stronger thanks to the resto staff passives.
Rapid Regen is not a reliable skill at all...
Which is why I suggested just making it a self heal only...
There is not that option... did you read the skill or DO YOU KNOW THE skill
I'm suggesting that they change Rapid Regen to be self heal only, you know, like how you're suggesting changing an entire Vigor morph to scale off max mag and spell damage?
Except I'm suggesting a less selfish alternative that doesn't take away a tool from stamina, just because a few magicka users don't want to use a resto staff.
This idea would not make sense. It is a skill that is part of a weapon line designed and dedicated to healing others. There is not a single skill dedicated to the caster.
Granted, the idea of this thread is about homogenization.
Then they shouldn't have made Rapid Regen mirror pre-late-nerfed Resolving Vigor, in everything except targeting. I'm simply asking that they actually complete what they started, when they messed with Rapid Regen. Especially since Radiating Regen is very likely to be be next up on the chopping block, since healing is such a big issue. I'd like to have a HoT that's actually good, and reliable, which Rapid Regen isn't.
I agree they should not have changed RR as they did. It was a lazy approach to fixing the bug with regen imo. That is not justification of continuing homogenization. Run the rStaff if you want a similar skill.
Except I'm not asking for anything not on resto staff? All I'm asking for is Rapid Regen to be made self-heal, so it actually mirrors Vigor, as per Zenimax's vision for the skill, given the changes.
BalticBlues wrote: »Playing with two 2x DESTRO is way more DPS-efficient than 1x Destro plus one lame Resto.
Why only StamPlayers should have the benefit to use 2x Damage Weapons plus Vigor?
Combining 1x Destro plus SnB is also a cool PvP option, I love this to use on my MagTemplar,
but due to the lack of a MagVigor, it does not work for classes without ad-hoc self-heals.
ZOS, please give MagPlayers a MagVigor morph to open non-resto gameplay to all MagClasses.
magicka dont need resto staff.
frost staff or snb still usable because there is a lot magicka class heal available for magicka than stamina.
you can use forst staff back bar and voila, ur problem with cannot slot 2x destro solved.
healing staff meant for group heal *OR* somebody dont want group play at all and not using block as main mitigation (magblade / magsorc).
in fact magblade and magsorc also have alot of heal available and dont need slot resto all the time.
Bruh I'm all for giving magicka their own Vigor....
BUT ONLY IF WE GET I N D E P E N D E N T DAMAGE SHIELDS AND BURST HEALS EQUIVALENT TO YOURS
Omg, not another one of these. Use bone shield, it’s been one of the best damage shields for a long time.
For burst heals not all mag get them too. Just sorc, templar, Warden and DK.
Omg, not another one of these. Use bone shield, it’s been one of the best damage shields for a long time.
For burst heals not all mag get them too. Just sorc, templar, Warden and DK.
You forgot the necro...
So apart from the Magblade, all mag classes have a burstheal.
The only Stamclass with a burstheal is Warden (whitout 2h)
Overall, more stam need the 2h for a burst Heal than Mag need the resto for a HoT...
And bone shield one of the best dmg shields? Maybe if you play a Tank with 40k+ health...