Cross-platform needs to happen (for console)..

Strider__Roshin · December 2019

When I stopped playing 6 months ago or so I recall that the main PvP campaign would only pop lock briefly if at all around prime time and everything else was a dead campaign. And in BGs I would fight the same groups every time. If it's anything like this on Xbox then yeah they need to merge servers because the PvP community is quite small.

TheFM · December 2019

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

You do understand that cross platform also involves getting Sony and Microsoft on the same page, making sure everyone gets paid, etc. I'd argue that the administrative overhead and effort is actually harder to overcome than the technological hurdles.

Transfering between platforms and working out compensation for purchases being moved from one to another is a nightmare, though just allowing everyone PS4/XB1/PC in the same sandbox is a pretty big tech hurdle as well. Not likely to see this at this point in the life cycle of the game...might see it in whatever replaces it.

Xbox already is already starting cross platform with pc on certain games

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

There's no point for console player to play with PC. It would be an unfair fight accross all activities. Add-ons have a huge impact on PC, from hand-holding in trials to pvp improvements.

Console gamers can do everything PC people do except for Godslayer because you need time-saving addons like quick gear and abilities switch. We also have a much worse performance in trials (talking about fps drops, lags, invisible adds and so on....).

While we can do tick tocks, immortal redeemers and gryphon hearts, our times are considerably worse because of poorly optimised game, lack of time-savers and addons that tell you the mechanics.

Not that cross-platform is ever going to happen.

Solution to that would be zos certified add ons, or the more likely option, make certain addons part of the base game. And your argument that its unfair is just hogwash, I use controller and do all content in the game on pc no issue, and would even dare to say i do better than a large portion of kb and mouse users

wolfbone · December 2019

no. it does not. what needs to happen is they need to put some time into stable servers, adn nto nerf everything every patch.

redlink1979 · December 2019

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

...Add-ons have a huge impact on PC, from hand-holding in trials to pvp improvements...

Base game should have all the relevant functions added by add-ons to the game.
I hope Zeni can add more functions in a very near future.

Multiple crafting/refining was a winning move.

QoL for everyone, I say.

lagrue · December 2019

Awful idea, no. I don't want to play with XB1 players on even more unstable servers, no thank you.

Asardes · December 2019

Dunno about cross-play I wanna cosplay as EU-PC

lagrue · December 2019

redlink1979 wrote: »

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

...Add-ons have a huge impact on PC, from hand-holding in trials to pvp improvements...

Base game should have all the relevant functions added by add-ons to the game.
I hope Zeni can add more functions in a very near future.

Multiple crafting/refining was a winning move.

QoL for everyone, I say.

Yeah well look how that turned out so far... PC had skyshard map addon... ZOS idea for console? "Let's sell them skyshards."

AgaTheGreat · December 2019

TheFM wrote: »

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

You do understand that cross platform also involves getting Sony and Microsoft on the same page, making sure everyone gets paid, etc. I'd argue that the administrative overhead and effort is actually harder to overcome than the technological hurdles.

Transfering between platforms and working out compensation for purchases being moved from one to another is a nightmare, though just allowing everyone PS4/XB1/PC in the same sandbox is a pretty big tech hurdle as well. Not likely to see this at this point in the life cycle of the game...might see it in whatever replaces it.

Xbox already is already starting cross platform with pc on certain games

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

There's no point for console player to play with PC. It would be an unfair fight accross all activities. Add-ons have a huge impact on PC, from hand-holding in trials to pvp improvements.

Console gamers can do everything PC people do except for Godslayer because you need time-saving addons like quick gear and abilities switch. We also have a much worse performance in trials (talking about fps drops, lags, invisible adds and so on....).

While we can do tick tocks, immortal redeemers and gryphon hearts, our times are considerably worse because of poorly optimised game, lack of time-savers and addons that tell you the mechanics.

Not that cross-platform is ever going to happen.

Solution to that would be zos certified add ons, or the more likely option, make certain addons part of the base game. And your argument that its unfair is just hogwash, I use controller and do all content in the game on pc no issue, and would even dare to say i do better than a large portion of kb and mouse users

It's not about the controller -.- Controller has nothing to do with it, especially since it's a much better way of playing the game than a keyboard and mouse.

It's that PC has block countdowns for god's sake, or extremely visible debuff countdowns and reminders. We don't need such things on consoles and we don't even want them to be honest. What we need would be a fair chance to compete against the PC and that would probably mean removal of all add-ons and improving the game in such a way that it performs as smoothly as on PC. (Which is never going to happen. And same thing can be said about cross-platform)

At least on consoles everyone is equal and only limited by the speed of your internet.

FierceSam · December 2019

Probably cheaper for ZOS to buy every Xbox player a new PC than introduce cross play, given their numbers are apparently so low.

Atm their PC servers struggle to cope with the existing number of players, the Group Finder doesn’t work, BGs are a mess, and Guild Finder is crushing guilds. Dragons are stop motion lagfests and Cyrodiil is largely stationary. So I can see how adding cross play would seem like it would make no difference to performance.

I suspect that improving performance and developing compelling content is the best way to build Xbox EU population. And that should be easier and less expensive than buying new PCs.

ManwithBeard9 · December 2019

Ohtimbar wrote: »

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

You do understand that cross platform also involves getting Sony and Microsoft on the same page, making sure everyone gets paid, etc. I'd argue that the administrative overhead and effort is actually harder to overcome than the technological hurdles.

Nope, cross-play is already a thing on consoles. It's ZoS and ZoS alone that's preventing it.

You spelled Sony wrong.

Although ZOS had stated numerous times they didn't envision cross play when they built the infrastructure, the biggest hurdle is still the console companies playing nice and the issue of how purchases are made.

Ohtimbar · December 2019

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Ohtimbar wrote: »

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

You do understand that cross platform also involves getting Sony and Microsoft on the same page, making sure everyone gets paid, etc. I'd argue that the administrative overhead and effort is actually harder to overcome than the technological hurdles.

Nope, cross-play is already a thing on consoles. It's ZoS and ZoS alone that's preventing it.

You spelled Sony wrong.

Although ZOS had stated numerous times they didn't envision cross play when they built the infrastructure, the biggest hurdle is still the console companies playing nice and the issue of how purchases are made.

No, you failed to read and comprehend. It has already happened. Past-tense. We already have cross-play, but not for ESO.

Hapexamendios · December 2019

I like the idea, but it’s impractical right now. The game is far from stable right now with existing populations.

MercilessnVexed · December 2019

It would be convenient, especially considering my son's PS4 just died and he's moving to PC. All his mounts, his trophies, his characters, his achieves... gone.

theyancey · December 2019

I don't want one iota of console crap interfering with my PC games.

CiliPadi · December 2019

Ohtimbar wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Ohtimbar wrote: »

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

You do understand that cross platform also involves getting Sony and Microsoft on the same page, making sure everyone gets paid, etc. I'd argue that the administrative overhead and effort is actually harder to overcome than the technological hurdles.

Nope, cross-play is already a thing on consoles. It's ZoS and ZoS alone that's preventing it.

You spelled Sony wrong.

Although ZOS had stated numerous times they didn't envision cross play when they built the infrastructure, the biggest hurdle is still the console companies playing nice and the issue of how purchases are made.

No, you failed to read and comprehend. It has already happened. Past-tense. We already have cross-play, but not for ESO.

Ohtimbar is correct. FFXIV has cross-play and cross-progression for a long time because it was the only game that Sony allowed. It worked well for FFXIV, only draw back is that if you want to also play on PC, you have to buy the game and it's expansions again.

Sony has only recently opened up cross-play to all games. So it can work, but the question here lies solely on whether ZOS wants to do it, and can do it competently.

TheFM · December 2019

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

You do understand that cross platform also involves getting Sony and Microsoft on the same page, making sure everyone gets paid, etc. I'd argue that the administrative overhead and effort is actually harder to overcome than the technological hurdles.

Transfering between platforms and working out compensation for purchases being moved from one to another is a nightmare, though just allowing everyone PS4/XB1/PC in the same sandbox is a pretty big tech hurdle as well. Not likely to see this at this point in the life cycle of the game...might see it in whatever replaces it.

Xbox already is already starting cross platform with pc on certain games

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

There's no point for console player to play with PC. It would be an unfair fight accross all activities. Add-ons have a huge impact on PC, from hand-holding in trials to pvp improvements.

Console gamers can do everything PC people do except for Godslayer because you need time-saving addons like quick gear and abilities switch. We also have a much worse performance in trials (talking about fps drops, lags, invisible adds and so on....).

While we can do tick tocks, immortal redeemers and gryphon hearts, our times are considerably worse because of poorly optimised game, lack of time-savers and addons that tell you the mechanics.

Not that cross-platform is ever going to happen.

Solution to that would be zos certified add ons, or the more likely option, make certain addons part of the base game. And your argument that its unfair is just hogwash, I use controller and do all content in the game on pc no issue, and would even dare to say i do better than a large portion of kb and mouse users

It's not about the controller -.- Controller has nothing to do with it, especially since it's a much better way of playing the game than a keyboard and mouse.

It's that PC has block countdowns for god's sake, or extremely visible debuff countdowns and reminders. We don't need such things on consoles and we don't even want them to be honest. What we need would be a fair chance to compete against the PC and that would probably mean removal of all add-ons and improving the game in such a way that it performs as smoothly as on PC. (Which is never going to happen. And same thing can be said about cross-platform)

At least on consoles everyone is equal and only limited by the speed of your internet.

Far greater chance of addons being added to console like they do on skyrim than disabling addons for pc, I mean the only addon i really use is AUI, and i do fine.

Siohwenoeht · December 2019

My issue with console to console crossplay is that it's much too easy to create alt accounts on PlayStation. We have mat bots on xb1, but from what I can tell, not nearly as many as PlayStation and that is partly due to free alternate accounts.

lucky_Sage · December 2019

CiliPadi wrote: »

At least give people the ability to transfer to PC, given the abysmal performance and state of the PS4 version.

and if they already have pc and done a lot on both still transfer to old console account over. because I switched to pc and have more cp on there now but less toons and not a crafter and all those crown costumes and mounts I bought on ps4 that I don't have on pc.