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Breton or Highelf or Argonian

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Which would make a better Templar healer and Why?
  • Neoealth
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    Breton imo. For the extra magicka and reduced magicka cost. Plus resistances and magicka regen. Seems like a no brainer for a healing character.
    Edited by Neoealth on December 7, 2019 11:13PM
  • idk
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    I agree with Bretton.
  • GhostofDatthaw
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    Lizards for life
  • Tryxus
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    They're all good Templar healers in their own way.

    Breton happens to be the most popular due to their sustain and extra Spell Resist
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  • TheShadowScout
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    I would say, Breton if you want to go with "best" from the stats and all that...

    High elves are a bit better for the magica DPS role I suppose, and lizards are... more of a special case anyhow (and also make far better wardens, lore-wise. Just sayin.).

    Still, they are all within shouting distance of each other, so... I'd say, to those who want to play as healer, go with what you find more fun?
  • Orjix
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    Dark Elf, literally the only playable class. all other races are trash and should die
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    They're all good Templar healers in their own way.

    Breton happens to be the most popular due to their sustain and extra Spell Resist

    ^This.^

    My Templar Healer is Altmer though ...

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    Edited by Taleof2Cities on December 8, 2019 12:32AM
  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Dunmer, because stamina on a mag character is OP
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    Orjix wrote: »
    Dark Elf, literally the only playable class. all other races are trash and should die

    Why more people dont get this, I will never understand.
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  • Iskiab
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    Breton for PvE. For pvp it’s a little more complicated.

    Depends how much stamina you want. Argonian > Altmer > Breton for stamina sustain.
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  • Lady_Linux
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    Khajiit is the correct answer to this question. I assume it's a trick question...
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  • Banana
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    Breton. Better looking. Nobody wants cpr from an argonian
  • r34lian
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  • dem0n1k
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    Argonian. Breton has more sustain? Chugg a potion. Altmer has more damage? Chugg a potion. nps!
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  • Raisin
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    Argonians are best race. Bretons are arguably more BIS. Altmer is nice if you wanna switch it to magplar sometimes.
  • Aznarb
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    Well, tbh Templar is so easy than it realy doesn't matter which race you choose since everything he need is build in the class.
    So, just choose what you love.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Orjix wrote: »
    Dark Elf, literally the only playable class. all other races are trash and should die

    Why more people dont get this, I will never understand.

    Because N'wah
    I have 3 magicka toons, 2 dunmers (magblade and magcro) and a breton (magplar). I really struggle with disgust each time I need to play on Breton, I did all I can for backstory, for interesting looks, but she all the same feel so cheap and shallow, so easy and potato-ish..
  • Ratzkifal
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    For PvE it's Breton > Argonian > Altmer
    For PvP it's also Breton > Argonian > Altmer but the gaps between them become closer.

    Some things to keep in mind.
    -Breton has superior sustain to Argonians even when they are drinking potions
    -For PvP the Argonians' ability to "reset" a fight is great and should not be underestimated
    -Argonians are immune to some forms (but not all) of defile, which is useful in PvP especially when you rely on selfhealing
    -Argonians are only better than Altmer as long as you constantly drink potions, which can get expensive
    -Altmer and Breton have better damage than Argonians
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  • hakan
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    Orjix wrote: »
    Dark Elf, literally the only playable class. all other races are trash and should die

    Why more people dont get this, I will never understand.

    as a dark elf stamblade.. ehm.. because when you min max for pve, the of stat doesnt matter for dps and healer. breton and altmer has the highest magicka thats it.

    for stam its orc.

    for min maxers ability to switch whenever you want without spending tokens doesnt matter
  • WiseSky
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    Bretons are better looking.
    More Sustain you will kick yourself if you dont chose it for PVE

    Altmer are the Chosen ones

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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Breton for sure.

    Looking at passives & comparing those from magicka healer perspective:

    Argonian:
    + 1K magicka
    + 6% Healing done
    + 4K magicka "recovery" ever 45 seconds (proc-passive, consumes potions).

    Breton:
    + 2K magicka
    + 7% Magicka abilities cost reduction

    Highelf:
    + 2K magicka
    + 258 spell dmg

    Dark Elf
    + 1.875K magicka
    + 258 sepll dmg.

    Khajiit
    + 0.825K magicka
    + 85 magicka recovery
    + 10% more critical healing

    Out of those I would chose Breton as it has best combo of high dmg / healing & sustain.

    - Argonian has the worst / lowest healing out of all "magicka" races - despite having 6% healing done. Healing done is still probably the weakest bonus in game.
    - Breton: Best choice for a healer. Good combination of High bonus to magicka skill strength (this includes healing) and best sustain passive in game for magicka characters.
    - Highelf: If you manage to sustain, it will have more healing than Breton.
    - Dark Elf: Similar to Highelf.
    - Khajiit: Has a lot of potential & can be a very good healer if you build for at least 50% or more spell crit.
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on December 8, 2019 10:14AM
  • Blackbird_V
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    Breton Master race.


    In all seriousness, their +100 recovery is really good and with the 7% cost reduction, IMO, it outweighs Argonian. Argonian healing is nice, but I think the ultra sustain of Breton just outweighs it allowing a lot more resource management for more healing.

    Breton spell resistance is amazing in trials, and in some cases you can take out some in spell shield for other CP's. If you're PvPing or even PvEing (in some cases) you can have status effects on you doubling the spell resist. So the tankyness is nice on healers, since you don't really want to die.

    So all in all - Breton.
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  • rpa
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    Argonian. Because swimming.
  • tmbrinks
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    My main templar healer is an Argonian... My secondary templar healer is a Breton... I like both. Sustain is better on the Breton. But that potion passive is awesome... (unless you're trying to keep your stam under 50% to run Martial Knowledge, then the potion passive is a hindrance!)
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  • Ratzkifal
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    Breton for sure.

    Looking at passives & comparing those from magicka healer perspective:

    Argonian:
    + 1K magicka
    + 6% Healing done
    + 4K magicka "recovery" ever 45 seconds (proc-passive, consumes potions).

    Breton:
    + 2K magicka
    + 7% Magicka abilities cost reduction

    Highelf:
    + 2K magicka
    + 258 spell dmg

    Dark Elf
    + 1.875K magicka
    + 258 sepll dmg.

    Khajiit
    + 0.825K magicka
    + 85 magicka recovery
    + 10% more critical healing

    Out of those I would chose Breton as it has best combo of high dmg / healing & sustain.

    - Argonian has the worst / lowest healing out of all "magicka" races - despite having 6% healing done. Healing done is still probably the weakest bonus in game.
    - Breton: Best choice for a healer. Good combination of High bonus to magicka skill strength (this includes healing) and best sustain passive in game for magicka characters.
    - Highelf: If you manage to sustain, it will have more healing than Breton.
    - Dark Elf: Similar to Highelf.
    - Khajiit: Has a lot of potential & can be a very good healer if you build for at least 50% or more spell crit.

    @Tommy_The_Gun You forgot the 100 mag recovery Breton get on their spell resist passive.
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  • ArchMikem
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    Orjix wrote: »
    Dark Elf, literally the only playable class. all other races are trash and should die

    Statements like these just make me smile when i remember the absolute whooping the Argonians will give them in the 4th Era.
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  • SydneyGrey
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    Bretons for healers. Their magic sustain is excellent, and they have a resistance to magic on top of that.
  • barney2525
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    Breton. Hair color allows options light enough to have Silver jewelry

    High elf only get the Copper colored jewelry no matter how light the hair color.

    If I'm gonna get killed on a regular basis I want the character to look good.

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  • NoFlash
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    lizard if you pvp sometimes.
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  • Asardes
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    Breton by a long shot.

    Even when Breton only had 3% spell cost reduction magicka sustain was pretty evenly matched with Argonian potion passive. Now it's 7% so there's really no contest. Templar spells are very expensive, so sustain is quite hard on Dark Elf or High Elf. You would be forced to either do heavy attacks or use Spell Symmetry every 2nd rotation to be able to sustain in PvE. Which will eat into your damage quite a lot since you lose a GCD, most likely outweighing that extra 335 spell damage you get from racial bonuses (with Major & Minor Sorcery).

    Also going vampire will be more dangerous on High Elf because you have less resistance than either Dark Elf (fire resistance) or Breton (spell resistance) - a large chunk of incoming damage in trials and dungeons is flame, and they also changed how the multipliers stack up so high stage vampires take much more damage than they used to.

    As for PvP specifically stamina sustain is not hard, if you build for it. For example I paired Amberplasm & Shacklebreaker on mine so I have >1K stamina recovery (1.2K with tri-pots) and still decent magicka pool and spell damage: 31K and 3.3K respectively on no-CP. I can reach 26.5K spell resistance and 20K physical resistance in light armor; on CP that increases to 30K/24.5K respectively (as high as heavy armor) and 37K maximum magicka (not far from a typical PvE DD build). Basically what you gain in sustain you can invest in damage and you are tankier to boot.
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