Breton or Highelf or Argonian

Aznarb

Templar spells are very expensive, so sustain is quite hard

Wut ? Templar is the easiest healer to sustain with the warden..
If you've trouble with Templar sustain the race isn't the problem.

Asardes

Aznarb wrote: »

Templar spells are very expensive, so sustain is quite hard

Wut ? Templar is the easiest healer to sustain with the warden..
If you've trouble with Templar sustain the race isn't the problem.

You should also mind the context, not just extract 3 words from that text. It's pretty clear I was referring to the DD rotation, not healing. Healing is easier to sustain in general, after they changed Orbs. Before that orb spam was the main magicka drain. Warden is better than Templar at support because it has more group buffs, although templar has better raw healing - hardly needed in PvE where you can easily hit a cap on effective healing.

Iskiab

Asardes wrote: »

Breton by a long shot.

Even when Breton only had 3% spell cost reduction magicka sustain was pretty evenly matched with Argonian potion passive. Now it's 7% so there's really no contest. Templar spells are very expensive, so sustain is quite hard on Dark Elf or High Elf. You would be forced to either do heavy attacks or use Spell Symmetry every 2nd rotation to be able to sustain in PvE. Which will eat into your damage quite a lot since you lose a GCD, most likely outweighing that extra 335 spell damage you get from racial bonuses (with Major & Minor Sorcery).

Also going vampire will be more dangerous on High Elf because you have less resistance than either Dark Elf (fire resistance) or Breton (spell resistance) - a large chunk of incoming damage in trials and dungeons is flame, and they also changed how the multipliers stack up so high stage vampires take much more damage than they used to.

As for PvP specifically stamina sustain is not hard, if you build for it. For example I paired Amberplasm & Shacklebreaker on mine so I have >1K stamina recovery (1.2K with tri-pots) and still decent magicka pool and spell damage: 31K and 3.3K respectively on no-CP. I can reach 26.5K spell resistance and 20K physical resistance in light armor; on CP that increases to 30K/24.5K respectively (as high as heavy armor) and 37K maximum magicka (not far from a typical PvE DD build). Basically what you gain in sustain you can invest in damage and you are tankier to boot.

Yea, this is true, but you’re still giving up something running those sets even though it’s a good combination.

For example as an Altmer I New Moon and Bright throat with 10k stamina, back bar potatoes resto. As a Breton you’d get thumped hard running those sets because of stamina sustain.

You can build around stamina sustain as a Breton and do well, but races like Altmer let you not worry about stamina so can invest more in your primary stats.

AWinterWolf

I've played as a Breton and High Elf Templar healer (On Xbox and PC) and personally, I prefer High Elf, but I think that's more for the sake of appearance. Both, in my opinion, make very good healers, I can't comment on Argonians as I'm not personally a fan of them.

Honestly, if it's your first healer and you're worried about sustain issues, I'd go Breton, if you think you can manage without a Breton's passives, I'd go for either of the two.

ATreeGnome

Neivos wrote: »

Which would make a better Templar healer and Why?

It really depends on what you mean by "better".

Easiest to play? Breton. New healers tend to be bad a resource management, over casting abilities and for getting to heavy attack at the appropriate time. The spell resist passive helps in most of the more difficult trails too. Their HPS is sufficient for every thing.

Highest potential HPS? Altmer. More raw stats means more healing, simple enough. In the current meta there is typically lots of opportunity to heavy attack for magicka, which also gives you major mending for a little bit, increasing your HPS further. You can also run a magicka regen jewelry enchant and still have higher raw healing stats than a Breton or Argonian.

Most forgiving for mechanical errors? Argonian. Higher health and the potion passive just give you more survivability while still leaving you with sustain and HPS potential somewhere between the other two.

In all honesty, most people over value both HPS and sustain for healing in ESO. Your HPS only needs to be "good enough" that people aren't dying to damage that could be prevented by healing and your sustain only needs to be "good enough" that you can keep healing people through the entire fight (which is quite easy with periodic heavy attacking).

My main templar healer is an Argonian and I've had no issues with sustain or HPS in anything I've healed (including a couple successful Gryphon Heart runs). My only real complaint about it is that the sudden burst of stamina make Martial Knowledge annoying to keep up.

If I had to make a new templar healer today, I would pick an Altmer as I believe it gives the best balance between stamina return for PotL while avoiding the sudden inflow of stamina Argonians receive that makes Martial Knowledge difficult to manage. I think this is currently far more important than the actual healing potential of any of the races but it's also pretty irrelevant until you try to optimize healing for endgame PvE content.

So pick which ever you like and know it's a good choice.

ayu_fever

lizards and cats are slave races.
literally anything is better than either of those.

dunmer master race!!!!!!!

BUT breton is the “best” for healers and its what my templar is and she is my main.
dark elf on my warden and on necro healers is strong and i like it a lot.
my NB healer is high elf and hasnt let me down