What's the BEST/EASIEST way to do daily writs on all of one's characters?

LoneStar2911 · November 2019

I have 12 maxed (over CP-160) characters.
Now I want to get them squared away to do writs on all of them every day.
I've been trying to figure out the best/easiest way to do this.

My concern:
> If I don't max their professions and put in the necessary skill points so they're creating things with max materials (Rubedite Ingot, Ancestor Silk, Rubedo Leather, etc etc), then I may end up running out of the level 1 materials because I'm not constantly deconstructing level 1-10 gear. I receive a great surplus of CP 150-160 gear to deconstruct very easily. Therefore, I have a surplus of CP 150-160 materials to use for max level writs.
I don't want to have to give my "alt" characters surveys for them to help restock low level materials. I don't want to have to farm for materials at all, really.

But.... having enough skill points for 5-10 abilities (10-20 skill points) plus profession skill points might be a problem.

And potentially more work than it's worth..... ????
Because I don't want to buy skyshards from the crown store, so don't offer that as a suggestion, please.

So what do you all suggest? Is there something I'm missing? Something I'm forgetting or misunderstanding?

Do you agree that if I don't want to work with low level materials, that I should level all of my characters' professions and put in the necessary skill points?

Also, any suggestions on how to obtain lots of gear (preferably intricates) without simply buying them?
I've been doing Alik'r dolmens because I've also been leveling abilities on my alts, too.
[So it's not been that bad, but it takes a bit to get a good supply of gear and it's super boring. Even when watching Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Prime stuff. Ugh.]
And the dolmens give at least 1 piece of jewelry per chest, which is great, but is there a better way to get CP 150-160 gear for deconstruction to level professions?

Edit/Update: My main concern is running out of materials. Whether it be level 1 materials, or level cp 160 materials. I don't want to have to farm for anything. I don't care about "Master Writs". I'm wanting to do daily writs purely for the ~4k gold per character per day.

Major_Lag · November 2019

Stupid question: do you still get master writ drops if you downgrade (remove skill points) to use lvl1 mats for daily writs?
And does that affect the odds for getting improvement grain drops from JC?

phaneub17_ESO · November 2019

If you leave all your alts at 1/10 for iron, maple, etc. you get a higher return on mats than you spent on crafting most of the time from their crates, 15-18 spent and 20 return plus whatever you scrap and hireling mail. However, doing so will reduce your chances of getting Master Writs so that's a toss up if you care about them at all. Master Writs chance of receiving them take into consideration your rank 10/10, how many traits you have researched across the board, and how many motifs that character has learned. Leaving them all at 1/10 does not change hireling mail mats that much other than the base material, you can still receive legendary upgrade mats this way.

I have 6 characters that are 10/10 with all researches and get funneled all the excess motifs I find to increase their chances of getting Master Writs, while the other 12 are at 1/10 for easy mat collection. This gives me a slightly better mat distribution without burning out all my Ruby mats, you get Surveys either way.

LoneStar2911 · November 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

However, doing so will reduce your chances of getting Master Writs so that's a toss up if you care about them at all.

No, I don't care about Master Writs.
I'm only doing daily writs for the ~4k gold per character per day.

I'm wondering if I'm more likely to run out of materials for daily writs if the majority of my characters are using level 1 materials to complete them. Because I won't be funneling them surveys to stock back up on lowbie materials. I also won't be farming materials whatsoever. So the only way for me to replenish my lowbie material stock is by, 1. Daily writ rewards (NOT surveys) 2. Hirelings.

So... would it make more sense to try to get all of my characters' professions maxed level with 10/10 skill points? Because I'll never run out of CP 150-160 materials.

phaneub17_ESO · November 2019

Amber322 wrote: »

So... would it make more sense to try to get all of my characters' professions maxed level with 10/10 skill points? Because I'll never run out of CP 150-160 materials.

1/10 takes the least amount of materials to craft, the amount you get back should be roughly better than what you used to craft if you take the 20 from the crate plus decon any intricate items that come out of them, and hireling mail. 10/10 takes more materials than you get back, you'll go down in materials. I only use my Surveys for Ruby gathering, I always have an excess supply of rank 1 material at the end of the day.

Hapexamendios · November 2019

I have 18 characters. 14 are maxed out a on all professions. When I do writs on all of them, 6 craft equipment at max level, others at 1. Alchemy, provisioning and enchanting are always done at max level.

twev · November 2019

1.) Max all your characters.
2.) Get Dolgubins Lazy Writ Crafter.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1346-DolgubonsLazyWritCrafter.html
3.) ********
4.) Profit

It doesn't get simpler than that.

I have points into making multiple provisioning stuff on the one char that knows all the required recipes, (I make stacks of 100 Prov items that are needed at that level, 3 or 4 food and drink recipes are all that are asked for), and put the stacks in the bank. Alternate 'toons make multiple alch, extras go into the bank. You keep making the same few things most of the time. Get your writs, access the banker, and Dolgubins will download the stuff you need from the stacks of pre-made alch/prov.
Then you just visit the the other 5 crafting tables, unless you're out in the bank. Put excess/extras in the bank after you turn in your writs if you had to craft an alch writ on the fly. You'll use it next time, and all your 'toons draw off the same few stacks.

LoneStar2911 · November 2019

twev wrote: »

Max all your characters.
Get Dolgubins Lazy Writ Crafter.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1346-DolgubonsLazyWritCrafter.html

It doesn't get simpler than that.

"Maxing" characters is very vague.
Max level? 50? CP 160? Or Max professions? Level 50? Or level 50 and 10/10 skill points? What are you talking about having at "max"?
And, I already have the Lazy Writ Crafter addon. Thanks.

lagrue · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

I picked this answer but it's wrong for the reason of never having to get materials.

No matter what level of writs you do, materials will become a problem unless you habitually decon or farm or buy them.

That said, the time investment in writs is incredibly worth it. Even getting 10 characters to that point is a banked 46k gold a day for an hour of writs.

Forget master writs, frankly they are wasteful of materials in most cases. That said, Master writs are not the only reason to max the crafting trees. The higher your level, the better chance for yellow materials to drop from writ rewards, and that's big bank right there. I often rake in 20-30k in yellow materials doing my daily writs, adding on to the already guaranteed gold payouts.

It only takes about an hour to get the skill points tbh, be it from public dungeon events (preferable) or skyshard hunting. There's almost no reason not to do it -and as you highlighted at the beginning, failing to do so will quickly drain you of low level materials which you can't replace as easy as Ruby tier stuff.

WiseSky · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials.

I was once asking the same questions and made lots of posts about them, here take a look, alot of people told me there valued opinion:

How to sustain:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/498017/multiple-alts-doing-top-level-writs-how-to-sustain-material#latest

Details :Cost vs Profit:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/459690/tracking-daily-writ-reward-drop-rates-refining-rates/p1

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yQDUjYNQVsIFl0ktkbkSlfYPkzP6pgCOTMQ-qCuzfaI/edit#gid=1959859267

Are Level 1 Alchemy Writs too expensive:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/494629/level-1-alchemy-writs-to-expensive/p1

Master Writs Analysts: Learning All traits is it worth it
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/496627/master-writs-analysts-learning-all-traits-is-it-worth-it#latest

Personal Tips:
Premake all Alchemy and Provisioning on Character with passives to make extra portions, put them in bank to retrieve with
Dolgubon's Lazy Writ Crafter addon
Use Rapid Maneuvers when mounted
Use 5 piece set Cowards gear for 30% speed while sprinting
Use 5 piece set Jailbreaker for 10% speed
Be in Vivec City if you are training Horses and doing writs
Be in Alinor if only doing writs
You dont have to get off your mount to retrieve items from bank or to sell to Npcs
Use Skill Wayshines to re-skill your character to only crafting skills, if you are not playing with them, it costs less then 5K at level 50

Hope it helps

bmnoble · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

The low level mats are dirt cheap on guild traders save some gold and stock up if you only want to do the low level writs just make sure each character is level 50 for max gold gain and keep your main doing max level ones so they can harvest max level mats, which are worth a good amount to sell/refine for gold mats to sell or use.

Ideally you will eventually want to get all your characters doing max level writs, for the increased chance of getting gold upgrade mats to either use or sell and master writs to use or sell.

Its up to you if your on PC make sure to get Lazy writ crafter, you should be able to do 12 characters in half an hour at most with the add on.

Put all your alts either in Alinor or Vivec, no loading screens when using the crafting stations and a short distance to the turn in points.

If your on console limit the number of characters you do writs on to around 8, do 4 when you log in and 4 before you log out any more than that will take you a lot of time and effort, which at least for consoles sake you would probably be better off earning gold through other methods and find it a more enjoyable use of your time.

twev · November 2019

Amber322 wrote: »

twev wrote: »

Max all your characters.
Get Dolgubins Lazy Writ Crafter.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1346-DolgubonsLazyWritCrafter.html

It doesn't get simpler than that.

"Maxing" characters is very vague.
Max level? 50? CP 160? Or Max professions? Level 50? Or level 50 and 10/10 skill points? What are you talking about having at "max"?
And, I already have the Lazy Writ Crafter addon. Thanks.

I added info into the post above.
I was vague, sorry.
All my 'toons are above lvl 810
All my 'toons are lvl'd to 50 in each craft.
All my 'toons are done with research.
All my 'toons are 4/4, 6/6, 8/8 or 10/10 skill points (top level in crafting skill in each trade) which means all my 'toons harvest or extract the same stuff that they would craft with all the time.

And they pull master writs as rewards more often.

I never run out of mats, I make about 60K +/- gold/day and I can run thru 12 'toons doing 7 crafts each in under an hour.

OolongSnakeTea · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

Listen, it all depends on what you want- in terms in investing in your account and getting the min-max profits.

Best profits come from gold mats and master writs, and that increases the odds when you max out your craft and do the max craft quests.

I have dedicated writ mules for this, because I can't be bothered to have 18 characters that are content viable and are also master crafters.

I would say that out of my 18 characters, 6 of them are purely for writs using the build below to move fast and get them just plain done faster. I can do writs on 18 characters in less then 2 hours, that's including loading screens and being distracted by my cats, or youtube videos. Some folks can do it faster with less ADD then I have.
https://ninja614.com/eso-crafting-and-writs-build-scalebreaker-writ-mule-build/

Inklings has a lot of resources for writs and data on them in google spreadsheets you can find in his discord (at work otherwise I'd link it for you).

But with that said, its all about your time, your enjoyment to invest- but the data has shown, maxing it, and particular things to max it, give the best rewards.

svartorn · November 2019

I do writs on 6 toons every day (if the server is up).

I use dolgubon's lazy writ crafter and I make like 200 of each of the foods/drinks/potions that the alchemy/provisioning writs ask for and I put them in the bank. If you go up and open the bank, it will auto-withdraw the ones you need. The addon will autocraft blacksmithing/woodworking/clothing/enchanting/jewelcrafting for you if you have the mats.

I can do all the writs on all 6 toons in under 30 mins.

MartiniDaniels · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

I was adept of lvl1 crafting for long, but then 1 forum member showed me some math... Thanks to him, I literally swim in gold tempers now. Of course you'll be running out of maths without surveys, but with surveys I don't remember when I last time was buying mats from traders. (i only buy molybdenum from NPCs for basic style material, but you will buy it with lvl1 crafting too)
Also you may gather surveys on certain alts and make them when you have 5+ surveys from same place which greatly saves time.

tmbrinks · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

Max level on all = massive profit.

The major profit in writs is in the gold improvement materials that you get. Those have the best chance of dropping max level (about 30%), that far outweighs the extra crafting cost.

The spreadsheet that I've made and shared in the crafting forum was shared earlier in this thread.

Max level nets about a 500k profit per month, per character when all is said and done based on PC/NA MM prices, with a majority of this being from the improvement materials that are dropped

Commancho · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

Don't go this grindfest path. Sure, in the very long run (lets say 1 year from scratch) crafting on all slots will bring you nice profits, but in the same time you will get bored with a game or treat it as your second job. Having 6 (1 for each class) trully maxed and geared up characters with one uber main character is a perfect optimum to play this game and it would provide you a nice self-sufficiency when it comes to upgrading your gear. The time you would have save on that, you could spend on playing PVP or PVE which would bring you a REAL profits in the future while having a satisfaction from a game.

Inklings · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

So much hhhnnnggg in this thead,

NO, doing a lot of writs isnt a second job. In fact i guaranteed most of you that are saying this spend more time waiting in BG and dungeons queues then it takes me to do a full account of writs per day. (Heres a full account done in 30 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOFh1-Y6o-A)
They are really fast when you learn how to do them efficiently.

NO, it doenst take a long time to level professions. I have shown on stream how i can level a character from scratch and have all max professions and skill points needed for them in less then 6 hours. Here is a guide on how to power level all the professions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xNuS5YN781ar6oTxKyAgZdex1kw-q2JaxTiwNw4kZgY/edit#gid=1452260525

NO, doing tier one writs does not net you more money. The amount of gold you are loosing out on gold mats is astonishing if youre only doing tier one writs.

If you are doing max level writs say on 15 characters a day youre are getting on average 4 of each gold mat a day. (3 in jewelry)

- That's 1,460 gold mats a year of that profession lost. (1095 jewelry)

- If your selling them at todays (NA PC)MM prices:
Alloy = 7,300,000 gold
Wax = 9,490,000 gold
Rosin = 3,942,000 gold
Kuta = 3,504,000 gold
Chrome = 8,541,000 gold

Total gold = 32,777,000 lost in a year.

(this doenst even include the gold lost on selling master writs)

So not only DO YOUR WRITS! DO THEM AT THE MAX TIER!

LoneStar2911 · November 2019

Inklings wrote: »

So not only DO YOUR WRITS! DO THEM AT THE MAX TIER!

I figured. Thanks!

And thank you to everyone else that responded. I appreciate the effort and time you took to help a fellow ESO player.

And I definitely don't see daily writs and/or making gold other ways as a "job".
I find it very exciting to make gold. Definitely makes me smile.

Araneae6537 · November 2019

No need to level professions whatsoever. Just do the daily writs. You WON'T run out of level 1 materials. Writ rewards (minus surveys) will replenish your materials enough.

Amber322 wrote: »

Inklings wrote: »

So not only DO YOUR WRITS! DO THEM AT THE MAX TIER!

I figured. Thanks!

And thank you to everyone else that responded. I appreciate the effort and time you took to help a fellow ESO player.

And I definitely don't see daily writs and/or making gold other ways as a "job".
I find it very exciting to make gold. Definitely makes me smile.

Thank you for starting this thread and to all who responded!

It was been quite informative and I found that some of my assumptions were incorrect or rather hadn’t included all factors.

Guyle · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

Max level writs are the best to do, as they ultimately will generate more gold. If you do your surveys regularly, you will still occasionally run low on some mats, but the profit generated from max lvl writs far exceeds the cost of purchasing the mats directly from guild stores.

Hapexamendios · November 2019

Premake all your alchemy and provisioning to save time.

Sturmfaenger · November 2019

Put some CP on each char into "The Tower" to get more inspiration. To bring your chars to max with provisioning, alchemy and enchanting is a good start. That's a good income of gold each day for the start.
For the other crafts, I would bring one after the other to max.
Give one char everything you find to deconstruct, max them that way. When that char is done, do the next. No one is rushing you, and hopefully you will play the game for a while, so you have time. Crafting is just one way to earn gold, not rushing it gives you time to explore others, so you don't loose your fun in the game. The more chars are on max, the more inspiring gear and weapons they get as daily rewards for the other chars to deconstruct.
I have maxed the inventory of the chars I do crafting dailies with. Usually I prepare the dailies for the week with the chars I don't do anything else but crafting dailies with. That makes taking the quests and finishing them a quick affair on weekdays when I don't have much time to play.
The addon's help is great for chars that are more active than that and have a fuller inventory.
And choose a town with short ways to run. I prefer Mournhold, or for chars that still train their mounts Stormhold in Shadowfen. Others love Alinor or Vivec.

IBreathlesSI · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

Max all crafting professions appoint necessary skill points and do master writs.

If you don't make your crafting in the highest tier (with highest materials rubedite,ancesstor,rubedo,highest normal writ alchemy and provisioning recipes...) your writ rewards will be lower. Less money,less materials and no master writs.

The gold reward for writ quest is nothing the real reward for writs are high quality material drop from reward box(like tempering alloy, kuta...) and master writs(vouchers). If you don't want to do master writs or don't have research for it sell them.

If you do crafting every day and sell what you got you will have enough money to buy materials from guild stores.

Surveys are much more important than people usually think. Collect them. They will give you 3-4 days worth of materials. If you collect them you won't need to buy materials. Trust me thats what I do and I never run out of materials.

I don't know much about hireling. I used it for a while but seemed unnecessary. The things it gave me were always trash and in small amounts. I thought it doesn't even deserve those skill points.

Trying to do writ manuelly is so much time consuming. Use dolgubon's lazy writ crafting add-on. If you are console start swearing at Zos for making crafting system in the game.

Oh just looked back at your post. You said you only want 4k gold. I thought 4k gold reward is for highest tier. Lower tiers give less gold. I might be wrong but if thats your only concern don't bother crafting. You can make that 4k gold very easily doing something more fun.

DirkRavenclaw · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

I have 11 toons on PC/NA and 9 on PC/EU. I do writs in Vvardenfell and Summerset, 1 toon in Auridon as he isnt somewhere else right now. Some Toons are max lvl, some arent. Most of my Toons make and receife Silver(Rank 3 JC) as Silver is the most profitable to sell right now. I need, thx to addons around 45 seconds to 1 min top for one toon to make and bring away all Dailly Writs. You get anyway random Mats in all Varieties so it really doesnt matter all that much

kringled_1 · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

I have 10 characters on PC/NA that do all writs. All of them have alchemy and 1-2 other crafts leveled to full. Any crafts that aren't at max are at 1 (except enchanting which is distributed between 2 and 3). This was a compromise solution for me. I am unenthusiastic about gathering the additional skill points needed per character, and I don't like shopping for raw materials. At this level (where I am doing about 4 writs at top level for every craft) surveys can keep me restocked on just about everything.

Michae · November 2019

No need to level professions whatsoever. Just do the daily writs. You WON'T run out of level 1 materials. Writ rewards (minus surveys) will replenish your materials enough.

I'm slowly maxing my characters, both level and crafting skills but I'm in no hurry. The ones I have now ae quite enough for a decent gold output From 8 characters, 4 of which are max level or near max level, and only one with maxed out crafting, I get around 28k and tons of surveys. No need to sweat it.

I do writs in Vivec City it has the best layout for me. Some prefer Alinor but I never really liked it. And of course Lazy Writ Crafter is a must.

ATomiX69 · November 2019

Level all characters' professions to 50, *AND* put in the necessary skill points to work with max level materials. You'll definitely never run out of materials. No worries. (Getting the skill points needed will be the hardest part, maybe.)

Nowadays, since you get back max rank materials from writs its definitly worth putting points in to work with max rank materials, also I feel like if you work with max rank materials you have a higher probability of getting gold upgrade mats, the one thats gonna be the hardest to level is probably gonna be jewelrycrafting but its definitly worth it imo, got loads of chromium plates lying around just from doing daylies from back when I played this game on a daily basis.
ESO+ also really helps alot as it eliminates inventory micromanagment and gives 10% more raw gold on each turn-in 664 gold per turn in with ESO+, 604 without.

Hixtory · November 2019

Other. (Please explain!)

Well I will talk about my experience:

1. You need craftbag
2. Get "Dolgubon Lazy Writ Crafter" and alchemy writ creator.

I have 16 characters, 14 able to do writs, I did writs for almost 3 years non stop, I got to the point where I didn't started playing if I havent done my writs already.

It get's you a lot of mats, specially if you have them maxed like I do, BUT low level mats are incredibly cheap, so if you are looking for quick gold go for it.

BUT, here's a big BUT, is amazing the amount of mats you can save if you do them, but be aware that you will be spending 1,25 hours daily doing something that will become a vitual job.

There are another engaging ways to make gold, dungeon runs for motifs, PVP, exploring for furniture plans, etc

Coatmagic · November 2019

Every time I see a post like this on these forums I cringe/shiver for the day ZoS will take it all away.

Pretty much every helpful, useful, fun thing that's every been posted on these forums has been stealthily removed xD

Kalik_Gold · November 2019

No need to level professions whatsoever. Just do the daily writs. You WON'T run out of level 1 materials. Writ rewards (minus surveys) will replenish your materials enough.

Was doing 9 guys, 1 at max. (Main crafter) will have to use points on the rest. Math in here makes sense.

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