Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Simple conclusion: If inventory management MUST be closed behind pay-wall, then they should simply add an option to increase bank space if you bought a chapter. So the cap would increase +10 for each owned chapter or story DLC. There, every one wins, as ESO+ would get double bank space, and non ESO+ would suffer less...

This is exactly what I think should be in place. Because every DLC new items appear -- and it is simply getting out of hands if the bank space is not increased accordingly.

I consider the current situation as a cheap way to increase the pressure on the playerbase to sub (a system which is used in many many other games, sadly), without taking into account the implications of this system. In the end the quality of the game will suffer because those who already have ESO+ get more and more issues with inventory management.

MasterSpatula wrote: »

You know what? I think it's time they did this. Crafting Bags for everyone!

And, to give ESO+ the value-add that they'd be losing in this change, it's time to implement a Furniture Bag for Subscribers. The Furniture Bag would act exactly like the Crafting Bag but for any and all furnishings instead.

Let's make this happen.

Ewww no, why would I sub for a furniture bag. Who the is carrying around so much furniture that that feature would be anything close to useful? That's honestly the #1 way to devalue it. A crafting bag you always have use for vs a furniture bag who 99% of people have no use for.... sounds like a fair tradeoff

That would kill the game fasted than just doing OPs idea which would already kill the game... This is probably one of the worst ideas I've ever seen on these forums, congratulations.

i never had eso+ in the years i played. Still i manage easily enough with two bank chars. I support the game with other people's money through the gifting system, so i am not a bad customer either. Just be more organized and look better at what u need or what u don't.

DirkRavenclaw wrote: »

Yes make it Basegame but make the Game a Sub only Game again, then Im fine with it

Yes.

And the sub will need to increase with inflation. $15 a month was the base rate 10 years ago, it’s not going to be enough these days to run an mmo.

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Everyone complaining about 12-15$ a month in 2019 when back in 2004 vanilla WoW was $15 a month on top of initial purchase and gas was $1.85 a gallon national average. And that was a worse game.( Yes it crawled so others could fly.)

A stagnant $15 a month in over a decade and some people in this thread say they’ll never pay that for a game. Go make your own game. Those people fundamentally do not value the work that goes into it and never will. Bye. Netflix has increased its prices how many times since it came out and people think $15 for an mmo is too expensive? Netflix doesn’t even hold events, isn’t interactive, and until recently didn’t create any original content. ESO creates content on a perpetual basis.

The complaints In this thread don’t make economical sense. Yes suits could make less profit sure, but investors aren’t kind people in it for the love of the art, I bet you most of them don’t even know the first thing about what they invested in, they just want a steadily increasing return on their investment. That’s it. As soon as that stops, 100% they’ll be looking for a way to shut it down and get as big of a refund as they can squeeze courtesy of tax payers. Art under capitalism is just this way. No value judgement there, it just is.

$15 a month is not expensive for a form of luxury entertainment. Yes it’s luxury. You don’t need to have interactive entertainment and every coin pusher knows its safer to invest in passive entertainment like a Netflix miniseries.

I’m not going to say “grow up” because it’s mostly people older than 40 who complain about $15/month for “just a game”. Do some real research on how funding something like this works instead of begging for the game to be, essentially, shut down.

Now if you stopped your subscription out of displeasure like me, that’s another issue.

Instead of adding any sort of free craftbag I think it'd make more sense to make the "trait" and "style" material sections of it free leaving the rest to remain in normal inventory.
I know there is something like 75 style materials and 15 "pieces" of style materials that have to get combined.
And yeah 25 trait stones or so. At the end of the day a lot of these are just annoying to deal with due to how often they show up in game play and they don't feel like something so inherently beneficial to being a craftbag holder.

The important part of the craft bag (to me atleast) is the fact I can have 5k of each CP 150/160 material stocked up nicely which when all is said and done means I have saved 125 inventory slots and that's assuming I have 0 stacks in any other of the crafting materials which is pretty unlikely. It lets us hoard materials that non-subs have to take up bank space/storage chest space and could never match with us; and that's JUST the base materials not improvements or non-refined versions of anything. Them gaining the style/trait section of the current craft bag would make absolutely no difference to me subbing since I'd still need the other 6 tabs.

Craft bag was the main reason I subbed to ESO+....since I don't sub anymore it's also the one of the reasons I stopped playing.