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Editing factual criticisms will not fix the multitude of issues

  • Vhozek
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    The game still has a ton of issues even when 100% of the things in it are functioning correctly.
    Maybe we wouldn't have all these threads if work was put into fixing those other issues.
    Think of it as a mound of sand. All the little issues make up a decently sized mound and these recent issues double it in size. If they put effort into the little issues before this one we would only have a decently sized mound right now and probably a few grains of sand after this one was fixed.
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • kargen27
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    Jaraal wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    Cavedog wrote: »
    There are many issues with ESO right now. Selectively editing every post on this forum WILL NOT MAKE THOSE ISSUES GO AWAY! All your selective editing is doing is giving ESO/ZOS/Bethesda a bad name and a black eye.

    Adults resolve issues by discussing them openly. Petty edits to thousands of threads solves nothing.

    Censorship is not the answer. Fixing the game is the answer.

    Cracks me up that you think the developers should be reading the forums instead of working on the game. The forum moderators are here to see that the forums stay somewhat civil and mostly game related. It is what they do. We also have spokespeople that read the forums and keep us (or not depending on view) informed about the game. The spokespeople are the go between for the players who post in the forum and the developers that work on the game. The language and tone we use in the forums has no real impact on how the developers do their thing other than maybe depressing them some if they actually do read the forums. I wouldn't if I were them. The language and tone only matters in the flow of the forums between the users. If something is edited it is because moderators thought it would disrupt the conversations in these forums.

    If I were a developer of a game, you're darn right I would be reading a forum related to my game in my spare time. My employers may be telling me to do this and that, but I would be very interested to see how people who actually use my product feel about it. Am I smart enough to look past the drama and false outrage and gather data on trends? I'd like to think so. And maybe at my next daily / weekly team meeting, I might suggest we look at this or that way of doing things. Would I mention that I read a bunch of forum posts and came to some conclusions? Maybe not. But I think most people are educated and informed enough to verbalize how certain aspects of the game are working for them, or not. And I may see their reasoning and look at something from an angle I may have not considered.

    To make a blanket statement that devs are too busy working on the game to read forums is quite short sighted.

    Nowhere did I say developers are too busy to read the forums. I said the language and tone of the forums have no impact on game development. There are people that can and probably do summarize the contents of the forums that developers can access. Doing that instead of wading through these forums would be a much more efficient use of their time.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • srfrogg23
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    Cavedog wrote: »
    There are many issues with ESO right now. Selectively editing every post on this forum WILL NOT MAKE THOSE ISSUES GO AWAY! All your selective editing is doing is giving ESO/ZOS/Bethesda a bad name and a black eye.

    Adults resolve issues by discussing them openly. Petty edits to thousands of threads solves nothing.

    Censorship is not the answer. Fixing the game is the answer.

    I guess the first step is to determine what is a "factual criticism", a personal opinion, or whether or not it applies to everyone or just some people.

    A lot of "factual criticisms" are just opinions and don't actually apply to everyone.
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