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Imperial City For All!!

Iconius
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First thought: ZoS should make it so that if PVE players want to go to Imperial City without fear of being attacked. They should que as "Non-Combat" and when they are in IC they would be invincible like a guard but have no faction icon over their head. However, any killing of NPC's would also not reward Telvar.

Second thought: ZoS should create a leaderboard, titles, and addition rewards for those who use IC as their primary PVP experience.

Anyone else agree or have anything to add?
  • TheHsN
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    if only we can attack players in all other cities.
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • bearbelly
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    Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
    If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
    Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.
  • morrowjen
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    TheHsN wrote: »
    if only we can attack players in all other cities.

    You can. You just have to ask.
  • Wheresthetea11
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    Eh Just run a magblade and hit cloak when an enemy nears. Sewers are pretty quiet aside from the event, most players are just farming tel var.
  • Sylvermynx
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    *shrug* After I figured out that I was going to have to fish to get specific dyes and affordable perfect roe, I ran 4 toons (one on each account, on each PC/Mac megaserver) through Cyrodiil and am now in process of finishing up Master Fisher on all of them (well, already got it on one).

    In Cyrodiil, on low pop campaigns, I never saw any other players, either same faction (3 AD, 1 EP), or the others. No one ever attacked my characters. The only real issue was getting the *sigh* Foul Water blue fish. On ALL FOUR of them. That's got to be some sort of serious mess of RNG....

    Cyrodiil was interesting from a nostalgia viewpoint, mostly the named Ayleid ruins I remembered from Oblivion. I don't care about IC at all. And no, I don't care about the skyshards either.
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    Keep pvp content pvp that way they won't call for pvp in pve zones
  • Lady_Linux
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    I just want the sky shards. and the delves are part of that ... some nice non pvp quests are nice but not mandatory... but pvp i dont really care for. I have done battle grounds long enough to get barrier and then i am pretty much done, though the exp buff once a day is nice too, but i can live without it.
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • Hapexamendios
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    You go into a PvP zone, you take your chances. It’s that simple. No need to change it.

  • Katahdin
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    No thanks
    Leave IC as it is
    Beta tester November 2013
  • johnjetau
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    Actually, this might be an interesting idea.

    But...

    Lets make it an event. Once a year for a week Cyrodiil becomes a pve zone and at the same time the rest of Tamriel - Summerset, Alik'r, Elsweyr etc - all become pvp zones. They can call it "The Great Free for All'

    And that way, during that week all the pve players, can get their skyshards, quests, delves, experience the lag and random disconnects etc

    While us pvp players can turn Tamriel into a major war zone and take out any hapless pve'ers who forget about the event and port into zones trying to do their dailies :D
  • ArchMikem
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
    If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
    Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

    Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.
    CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • Rave the Histborn
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    Iconius wrote: »
    First thought: ZoS should make it so that if PVE players want to go to Imperial City without fear of being attacked. They should que as "Non-Combat" and when they are in IC they would be invincible like a guard but have no faction icon over their head. However, any killing of NPC's would also not reward Telvar.

    But that's part of the zone and the experience. It's supposed to be a warzone where all the factions have met in city based combat. If you take that part out and give people invincibility to clear the zone you're going to just have more people unhappy with it, less PVP population and a PVE zone that takes like an hour to clear.

    Second thought: ZoS should create a leaderboard, titles, and addition rewards for those who use IC as their primary PVP experience.

    Anyone else agree or have anything to add?

    Leaderboards might be an okay idea but not as necessary
  • Mr_Walker
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
    If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
    Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

    Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

    LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

    I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
    If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
    Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

    Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

    LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

    I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

    Yeah.... I kind of wanted to go there while doing the fishing thing.... but - well - I got four toons through Cyro fishing easy enough. Not really wanting to push that.....
  • ArchMikem
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
    If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
    Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

    Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

    LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

    I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

    Yeh, I PvP to waste time between each quarterly content release, but i am no tryhard. I remember having to do the Imp City questline on my Stamblade spamming cloak in the middle of the night. Wanted to make sure i never got ganked. I may spend quite some time in PvP but i'll be one of the first to advocate for a separate PvE instance of Cyrodiil.

    The War needs to end already.
    CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
    Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!
  • Cirantille
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    I PvP mainly but man I hate IC.

    The atmosphere, the mentality that people have there. At least in Cyrodiil you have fair chances to defend yourself.
  • mayasunrising
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    No please. There is a risk/reward system that is an intrinsic part of IC. If players are invincible then there is no risk. And hey, if you're someone that thinks pve overland content is too hard...here's a solution. ;)
    "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." Anaïs Nin

    “There’s a difference between wanting to be looked at and wanting to be seen." Amanda Palmer

    “A game is an opportunity to focus our energy, with relentless optimism, at something we’re good at (or getting better at) and enjoy. In other words, gameplay is the direct emotional opposite of depression.” Jane McGonigal

    “They'll tell you you're too loud, that you need to wait your turn and ask the right people for permission. Do it anyway." Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
  • Rave the Histborn
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
    If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
    Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

    Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

    LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

    I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

    Yeh, I PvP to waste time between each quarterly content release, but i am no tryhard. I remember having to do the Imp City questline on my Stamblade spamming cloak in the middle of the night. Wanted to make sure i never got ganked. I may spend quite some time in PvP but i'll be one of the first to advocate for a separate PvE instance of Cyrodiil.

    The War needs to end already.

    If we get a PVE Cyrodiil then they need to raise the difficulty of PVE immensely too. It's so tiresome to always read the "ganked" excuse everytime PVP becomes a topic. It seems like PVE isnt that difficult because people have trouble getting over one of the most base parts of the game. Dying.
  • Shanehere
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    I'm the opposite, I think if they made all areas (except major cities in each region) world PvP it would be awesome.
  • jazsper77
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    Ok so let’s call a spade a spade. IC is absolutely dead matter what campaign FACTS.

    But OP you hit a nerve with the Mafia type who farm that dead campaign for tel var to make 💵💵💵💵.

    So whenever anyone brings up any change to it they run here to shut it down FACTS
    Edited by jazsper77 on November 21, 2019 2:57AM
  • dem0n1k
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    Dang, in my brain the thread title was about IC: Free for all!
    Now that would be awesome!
    No alliances... every man/woman for themselves! F F A ! yay!
    NA Server [PC] -- Mostly Ebonheart Pact, Mostly.
  • TheHsN
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    morrowjen wrote: »
    TheHsN wrote: »
    if only we can attack players in all other cities.

    You can. You just have to ask.

    not fun:)
    NB here:)
    Plays:
    Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
    Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
    Magicka Templar - PvE
    Stamina Templar - PvP
    Magicka DK - PvE
    Stamina DK - PvE
  • Mr_Walker
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    Shanehere wrote: »
    I'm the opposite, I think if they made all areas (except major cities in each region) world PvP it would be awesome.

    Not really thought that one through, have you?
  • Sylvermynx
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    Mr_Walker wrote: »
    Shanehere wrote: »
    I'm the opposite, I think if they made all areas (except major cities in each region) world PvP it would be awesome.

    Not really thought that one through, have you?

    Well, it's not impossible. But it has to be consensual. IF you flag for pvp, then others who have done the same can.... get that on. The other two MMOs I played did that. It was fine - as I didn't EVER flag for pvp.

    Um. Well, I did once (aside from the many months I spent on a pvp server in a friend's guild - actually the most miserable time I have ever spent in a game - and I've played CRPGs since 1985....)
  • LoneStar2911
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    I would love it if we could "flag" ourselves for PvP in PvE zones. Especially if it came with some kind of reward for doing so. A small one, so scaredy-cats didn't whine about it too much.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    I would love it if we could "flag" ourselves for PvP in PvE zones. Especially if it came with some kind of reward for doing so. A small one, so scaredy-cats didn't whine about it too much.

    Well.... the reward in the other games I played was.... self-aggrandizing hubris. Not sure that's what you have in mind....
  • Ackwalan
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    If people can go to a PvP zone and not be involved in PvP, can others go to a PvE zone and do PvP? Not just duels, but full on raid vs raid PvP combat in any PvE zone, assuming all people involved tag themselves for PvP.

    If you think people dueling in towns is irritating, imagine 2 + PvP raiding guilds rping in Mournhold.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    If people can go to a PvP zone and not be involved in PvP, can others go to a PvE zone and do PvP? Not just duels, but full on raid vs raid PvP combat in any PvE zone, assuming all people involved tag themselves for PvP.

    If you think people dueling in towns is irritating, imagine 2 + PvP raiding guilds rping in Mournhold.

    Eh, I don't care. I don't mess with Mournhold personally. Ugly UGLY place.... In fact there's nowhere in EP that I want to be. But regardless, it doesn't matter. If people are flagged, they have to deal with the fallout. If they aren't flagged.... well, it cannot be much worse than 30 idiots dueling in Vivec when I'm doing writs. And if it gets to a point where I'm not willing to deal with it, I'll just pick up writs and then go do them in the Villa.... then turn them in wherever.

    Seriously. This game should have open world pvp. If you flag, you're on your own. If you don't flag, where's the beef? I played in two other games with open world pvp. It was fine.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    Iconius wrote: »
    First thought: ZoS should make it so that if PVE players want to go to Imperial City without fear of being attacked. They should que as "Non-Combat" and when they are in IC they would be invincible like a guard but have no faction icon over their head. However, any killing of NPC's would also not reward Telvar.

    Second thought: ZoS should create a leaderboard, titles, and addition rewards for those who use IC as their primary PVP experience.

    Anyone else agree or have anything to add?

    hell yeah! make IC and Cyrodill PvE zones! but dont forget to enable World PvP after.
  • Kel
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    I'm all fine with a PvE Imperial City...even a PvE Cyrodiil.

    As long as the catch is absolutely no rewards. Including Skyshards.

    These are risk/reward items. You remove the risk (in this case PvP) the reward gets removed as well. The only rewards you'll find should be the same rewards you get in overland. Experience and a slight amount of gold.

    Explore to your hearts content....quest as much as you want. But no AP, no Telvar, no skyshards. Those come with the risk of PvP. Remove the risk, remove the reward.
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