Imperial City For All!!

Iconius · November 2019

First thought: ZoS should make it so that if PVE players want to go to Imperial City without fear of being attacked. They should que as "Non-Combat" and when they are in IC they would be invincible like a guard but have no faction icon over their head. However, any killing of NPC's would also not reward Telvar.

Second thought: ZoS should create a leaderboard, titles, and addition rewards for those who use IC as their primary PVP experience.

Anyone else agree or have anything to add?

TheHsN · November 2019

if only we can attack players in all other cities.

bearbelly · November 2019

Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

morrowjen · November 2019

TheHsN wrote: »

if only we can attack players in all other cities.

You can. You just have to ask.

Wheresthetea11 · November 2019

Eh Just run a magblade and hit cloak when an enemy nears. Sewers are pretty quiet aside from the event, most players are just farming tel var.

Sylvermynx · November 2019

*shrug* After I figured out that I was going to have to fish to get specific dyes and affordable perfect roe, I ran 4 toons (one on each account, on each PC/Mac megaserver) through Cyrodiil and am now in process of finishing up Master Fisher on all of them (well, already got it on one).

In Cyrodiil, on low pop campaigns, I never saw any other players, either same faction (3 AD, 1 EP), or the others. No one ever attacked my characters. The only real issue was getting the *sigh* Foul Water blue fish. On ALL FOUR of them. That's got to be some sort of serious mess of RNG....

Cyrodiil was interesting from a nostalgia viewpoint, mostly the named Ayleid ruins I remembered from Oblivion. I don't care about IC at all. And no, I don't care about the skyshards either.

dcam86b14_ESO · November 2019

Keep pvp content pvp that way they won't call for pvp in pve zones

Lady_Linux · November 2019

I just want the sky shards. and the delves are part of that ... some nice non pvp quests are nice but not mandatory... but pvp i dont really care for. I have done battle grounds long enough to get barrier and then i am pretty much done, though the exp buff once a day is nice too, but i can live without it.

Hapexamendios · November 2019

You go into a PvP zone, you take your chances. It’s that simple. No need to change it.

Katahdin · November 2019

No thanks
Leave IC as it is

johnjetau · November 2019

Actually, this might be an interesting idea.

But...

Lets make it an event. Once a year for a week Cyrodiil becomes a pve zone and at the same time the rest of Tamriel - Summerset, Alik'r, Elsweyr etc - all become pvp zones. They can call it "The Great Free for All'

And that way, during that week all the pve players, can get their skyshards, quests, delves, experience the lag and random disconnects etc

While us pvp players can turn Tamriel into a major war zone and take out any hapless pve'ers who forget about the event and port into zones trying to do their dailies

ArchMikem · November 2019

bearbelly wrote: »

Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

Rave the Histborn · November 2019

Iconius wrote: »

First thought: ZoS should make it so that if PVE players want to go to Imperial City without fear of being attacked. They should que as "Non-Combat" and when they are in IC they would be invincible like a guard but have no faction icon over their head. However, any killing of NPC's would also not reward Telvar.

But that's part of the zone and the experience. It's supposed to be a warzone where all the factions have met in city based combat. If you take that part out and give people invincibility to clear the zone you're going to just have more people unhappy with it, less PVP population and a PVE zone that takes like an hour to clear.

Second thought: ZoS should create a leaderboard, titles, and addition rewards for those who use IC as their primary PVP experience.

Anyone else agree or have anything to add?

Leaderboards might be an okay idea but not as necessary

Mr_Walker · November 2019

ArchMikem wrote: »

bearbelly wrote: »

Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

Sylvermynx · November 2019

Mr_Walker wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

bearbelly wrote: »

Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

Yeah.... I kind of wanted to go there while doing the fishing thing.... but - well - I got four toons through Cyro fishing easy enough. Not really wanting to push that.....

ArchMikem · November 2019

Mr_Walker wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

bearbelly wrote: »

Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

Yeh, I PvP to waste time between each quarterly content release, but i am no tryhard. I remember having to do the Imp City questline on my Stamblade spamming cloak in the middle of the night. Wanted to make sure i never got ganked. I may spend quite some time in PvP but i'll be one of the first to advocate for a separate PvE instance of Cyrodiil.

The War needs to end already.

Cirantille · November 2019

I PvP mainly but man I hate IC.

The atmosphere, the mentality that people have there. At least in Cyrodiil you have fair chances to defend yourself.

mayasunrising · November 2019

No please. There is a risk/reward system that is an intrinsic part of IC. If players are invincible then there is no risk. And hey, if you're someone that thinks pve overland content is too hard...here's a solution.

Rave the Histborn · November 2019

ArchMikem wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

bearbelly wrote: »

Let's just leave the PvP zones to PvP.
If you want to go there, then you need to just accept that you'll be a valid target while there.
Otherwise, we're gonna get the chuckleheads demanding open-world PvP in exchange for PvEer immunity in a PvP zone.

Then they shouldnt have put any PvE in there in the first place. The questline? Get rid of it. The skyshards and bosses and repeatable quest givers. If its a PvP zone it should be nothing but a place for competitive ego stroking.

LOL damn a bit harsh Mike, and you do PvP!

I thought the questline was probably the best in the whole game, it's a shame it's gated behind PvP, so many people won't ever do it.

Yeh, I PvP to waste time between each quarterly content release, but i am no tryhard. I remember having to do the Imp City questline on my Stamblade spamming cloak in the middle of the night. Wanted to make sure i never got ganked. I may spend quite some time in PvP but i'll be one of the first to advocate for a separate PvE instance of Cyrodiil.

The War needs to end already.

If we get a PVE Cyrodiil then they need to raise the difficulty of PVE immensely too. It's so tiresome to always read the "ganked" excuse everytime PVP becomes a topic. It seems like PVE isnt that difficult because people have trouble getting over one of the most base parts of the game. Dying.

Shanehere · November 2019

I'm the opposite, I think if they made all areas (except major cities in each region) world PvP it would be awesome.

jazsper77 · November 2019

Ok so let’s call a spade a spade. IC is absolutely dead matter what campaign FACTS.

But OP you hit a nerve with the Mafia type who farm that dead campaign for tel var to make 💵💵💵💵.

So whenever anyone brings up any change to it they run here to shut it down FACTS

dem0n1k · November 2019

Dang, in my brain the thread title was about IC: Free for all!
Now that would be awesome!
No alliances... every man/woman for themselves! F F A ! yay!

TheHsN · November 2019

morrowjen wrote: »

TheHsN wrote: »

if only we can attack players in all other cities.

You can. You just have to ask.

not fun:)
NB here:)

Mr_Walker · November 2019

Shanehere wrote: »

I'm the opposite, I think if they made all areas (except major cities in each region) world PvP it would be awesome.

Not really thought that one through, have you?

Sylvermynx · November 2019

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Shanehere wrote: »

I'm the opposite, I think if they made all areas (except major cities in each region) world PvP it would be awesome.

Not really thought that one through, have you?

Well, it's not impossible. But it has to be consensual. IF you flag for pvp, then others who have done the same can.... get that on. The other two MMOs I played did that. It was fine - as I didn't EVER flag for pvp.

Um. Well, I did once (aside from the many months I spent on a pvp server in a friend's guild - actually the most miserable time I have ever spent in a game - and I've played CRPGs since 1985....)

LoneStar2911 · November 2019

I would love it if we could "flag" ourselves for PvP in PvE zones. Especially if it came with some kind of reward for doing so. A small one, so scaredy-cats didn't whine about it too much.

Sylvermynx · November 2019

Amber322 wrote: »

I would love it if we could "flag" ourselves for PvP in PvE zones. Especially if it came with some kind of reward for doing so. A small one, so scaredy-cats didn't whine about it too much.

Well.... the reward in the other games I played was.... self-aggrandizing hubris. Not sure that's what you have in mind....

Ackwalan · November 2019

If people can go to a PvP zone and not be involved in PvP, can others go to a PvE zone and do PvP? Not just duels, but full on raid vs raid PvP combat in any PvE zone, assuming all people involved tag themselves for PvP.

If you think people dueling in towns is irritating, imagine 2 + PvP raiding guilds rping in Mournhold.

Sylvermynx · November 2019

Ackwalan wrote: »

If people can go to a PvP zone and not be involved in PvP, can others go to a PvE zone and do PvP? Not just duels, but full on raid vs raid PvP combat in any PvE zone, assuming all people involved tag themselves for PvP.

If you think people dueling in towns is irritating, imagine 2 + PvP raiding guilds rping in Mournhold.

Eh, I don't care. I don't mess with Mournhold personally. Ugly UGLY place.... In fact there's nowhere in EP that I want to be. But regardless, it doesn't matter. If people are flagged, they have to deal with the fallout. If they aren't flagged.... well, it cannot be much worse than 30 idiots dueling in Vivec when I'm doing writs. And if it gets to a point where I'm not willing to deal with it, I'll just pick up writs and then go do them in the Villa.... then turn them in wherever.

Seriously. This game should have open world pvp. If you flag, you're on your own. If you don't flag, where's the beef? I played in two other games with open world pvp. It was fine.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · November 2019

Iconius wrote: »

First thought: ZoS should make it so that if PVE players want to go to Imperial City without fear of being attacked. They should que as "Non-Combat" and when they are in IC they would be invincible like a guard but have no faction icon over their head. However, any killing of NPC's would also not reward Telvar.

Second thought: ZoS should create a leaderboard, titles, and addition rewards for those who use IC as their primary PVP experience.

Anyone else agree or have anything to add?

hell yeah! make IC and Cyrodill PvE zones! but dont forget to enable World PvP after.

Kel · November 2019

I'm all fine with a PvE Imperial City...even a PvE Cyrodiil.

As long as the catch is absolutely no rewards. Including Skyshards.

These are risk/reward items. You remove the risk (in this case PvP) the reward gets removed as well. The only rewards you'll find should be the same rewards you get in overland. Experience and a slight amount of gold.

Explore to your hearts content....quest as much as you want. But no AP, no Telvar, no skyshards. Those come with the risk of PvP. Remove the risk, remove the reward.