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Please rebuild ESO from the ground up, patching will not work
Cavedog
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We've had enough of the patching ZOS. [snip]
ESO is the best game ever created, but we can't play it due to ping and fps drops....and it gets worse with every patch, not better.
Please rebuild ESO from the ground up. Your game, at least when it comes to PvP, will die if you don't.
[Minor edit for bashing.]
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on November 19, 2019 7:03PM ESO is the best game ever created, but we can't play it due to ping and fps drops....and it gets worse with every patch, not better.
Please rebuild ESO from the ground up. Your game, at least when it comes to PvP, will die if you don't.
[Minor edit for bashing.]
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✭ZOS can't even build a stable group finder, a basic function in any multi-player game.
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[Edit for bashing.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on November 19, 2019 6:59PM10 -
KappaKid83✭✭✭✭✭100% agree. I have posted this in multiple threads since last week but follow what Final Fantasy 14 did, it has shown a complete relaunch can be both effective and profitable.10 -
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✭KappaKid83 wrote: »100% agree. I have posted this in multiple threads since last week but follow what Final Fantasy 14 did, it has shown a complete relaunch can be both effective and profitable.
The game is already profitable for ZOS though. FF14 was so bad they had to redo it and even at its worst ESO isnt as bad now as FF14 was.
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Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
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A handful of devs that built ESO came from DAoC....which is 90% a PVP game....for ESO to lose PVP, it essentially no longer becomes ESO and just ES......Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on November 19, 2019 6:59PM3 -
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To be fair though their current engine is honestly ***. You gotta give it to them for even trying to work with its horrible code.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on November 19, 2019 6:57PM0 -
Strike_Maximus✭✭✭I believe asking for ZOS to just rebuild the entire game because "nothing works" is a bit extream and unreasonable.
The game has bugs and problems I get it I am not blind to this, but those bugs and problems do not make the game an unplayable garbage heap. A rebuild will simply never happen. If your game experience is deemed as broken and or extremely unsatisfactory just leave, there are millions and more players that will continue to play and enjoy the game and represent the silent majority. The devs have made great strides over the years and are dedicated to improving the game further despite what many may perceive them as greedy and not caring about the game.PC/NA/DC
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ZOS_GregoryVmodGreetings all,
After removing a handful of posts, we must remind everyone that Bashing is a violation of the rules that we have in place. When making threads/posts we ask that they be kept civil and constructive, as well as within the guidelines of the rules that we have in place. While having constructive opinions is allowed, and even encouraged, Bashing is not allowed. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to take a moment to review them here.
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Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭... which would be a bonus, to be honest. ;D
The good news is, you have like 5 other single player ES games, and one more on the way. But for us MMO nuts and PVPers, we have only have ESO. So no thanks on the PVPless ESO. If PVP was ever removed, I would definitely take my tens of thousands of crowns with me, metaphorically.3 -
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✭Rave the Histborn wrote: »KappaKid83 wrote: »100% agree. I have posted this in multiple threads since last week but follow what Final Fantasy 14 did, it has shown a complete relaunch can be both effective and profitable.
The game is already profitable for ZOS though. FF14 was so bad they had to redo it and even at its worst ESO isnt as bad now as FF14 was.
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regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭Strike_Maximus wrote: »I believe asking for ZOS to just rebuild the entire game because "nothing works" is a bit extream and unreasonable.
The game has bugs and problems I get it I am not blind to this, but those bugs and problems do not make the game an unplayable garbage heap. A rebuild will simply never happen. If your game experience is deemed as broken and or extremely unsatisfactory just leave, there are millions and more players that will continue to play and enjoy the game and represent the silent majority. The devs have made great strides over the years and are dedicated to improving the game further despite what many may perceive them as greedy and not caring about the game.
Or you can just allow a frustrated player to get their frustrations out which is why this post was made. So how about you just "leave" said post?0 -
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✭If ZO$ put as much effort into fixing issues as they do "moderating" these threads we'd be all set5 -
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✭I vote Gregory to get a job on the dev side of things. At least he is always on the job.6 -
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✭✭✭The main problem is that in "modern times", gaming companies (including AAA ones) hire top developers and game designers from zero to until the game goes public. Then they fire the expensive developers and keep a skeletal, bare bones, as cheap as possible team.
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✭✭Rave the Histborn wrote: »KappaKid83 wrote: »100% agree. I have posted this in multiple threads since last week but follow what Final Fantasy 14 did, it has shown a complete relaunch can be both effective and profitable.
The game is already profitable for ZOS though. FF14 was so bad they had to redo it and even at its worst ESO isnt as bad now as FF14 was.
[snip]
[Edit for bashing.]
Yeah because its WORSE!
Yeah FF14 is a worse version of WoW, and worse than ESO.1 -
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✭if im not mistaken they are releasing a new client in February?only a few years left to go now....
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Marolf✭✭✭Strike_Maximus wrote: »I believe asking for ZOS to just rebuild the entire game because "nothing works" is a bit extream and unreasonable.
The game has bugs and problems I get it I am not blind to this, but those bugs and problems do not make the game an unplayable garbage heap. A rebuild will simply never happen. If your game experience is deemed as broken and or extremely unsatisfactory just leave, there are millions and more players that will continue to play and enjoy the game and represent the silent majority. The devs have made great strides over the years and are dedicated to improving the game further despite what many may perceive them as greedy and not caring about the game.
To tell people who paid/are paying for a game that is unplayable for them to leave, is not an adequate solution.Edited by Marolf on November 19, 2019 8:59PM4 -
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✭We've had enough of the patching ZOS. [snip]
ESO is the best game ever created, but we can't play it due to ping and fps drops....and it gets worse with every patch, not better.
Please rebuild ESO from the ground up. Your game, at least when it comes to PvP, will die if you don't.
[Minor edit for bashing.]
Adults don't always agree and can't resolve issues without discussing them openly.
Editing out all the factual criticisms of the multitude of PERENNIAL problems will not make those problems go away. It appears the mods are as in over their heads as the coders at ZOS.Edited by Cavedog on November 20, 2019 1:09PM2 -
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✭✭ESO certainly isnt the best game ever created... And I dont think "rebuilding" this game is possible... It will cost hell lot of money and many months of work by programmers who are occupied in other projects. In few words, it aint happening. ESO was badly coded from the start, the engine is as flawed as Oblivion's and Skyrim's and sorry to tell you but ZOS isnt going to fix it. Ever.
What they are gonna do is pseudo-fixes that will function as temporary solutions. The reason why ESO continues to exist is to serve as a platform for crown crates. Thats the impression I get from the company's policy.Edited by gatekeeper13 on November 20, 2019 12:51PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It took years to build the original aspect of the game. It would take years to rebuild the game again. Doubt that is an economic choice Zos will make.0 -
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✭gatekeeper13 wrote: »ESO certainly isnt the best game ever created... And I dont think "rebuilding" this game is possible... It will cost hell lot of money and many months of work by programmers who are occupied in other projects. In few words, it aint happening. ESO was badly coded from the start, the engine is as flawed as Oblivion's and Skyrim's and sorry to tell you but ZOS isnt going to fix it. Ever.
What they are gonna do is pseudo-fixes that will function as temporary solutions. The reason why ESO continues to exist is to serve as a platform to sell crown crates.
We've paid the money already. We pay every month plus. They need to use the money to deliver a product that is as advertised and can be reliable. They have our money already. They need to use it wisely and stop wasting it away on distractions.1 -
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✭✭Totally agree with you.
I am not saying what I would like to happen but what I think will happen.0 -
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✭ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
After removing a handful of posts, we must remind everyone that Bashing is a violation of the rules that we have in place. When making threads/posts we ask that they be kept civil and constructive, as well as within the guidelines of the rules that we have in place. While having constructive opinions is allowed, and even encouraged, Bashing is not allowed. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to take a moment to review them here.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
Merely being told something you don't want to hear is not bashing. Preventing people from discussing the well established, PERENNIAL problems with ESO is not going to solve those problems. You guys are actually going to have to fix some of these issues, not just censor everyone who brings them up on the forum.Edited by Cavedog on November 20, 2019 1:08PM2 -
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✭✭ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
After removing a handful of posts, we must remind everyone that Bashing is a violation of the rules that we have in place. When making threads/posts we ask that they be kept civil and constructive, as well as within the guidelines of the rules that we have in place. While having constructive opinions is allowed, and even encouraged, Bashing is not allowed. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to take a moment to review them here.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
Since you are here, it would be very much appreciated if you could ask a dev to comment a bit on these topics you are censoring (which I can understand). But please, can you understand our frustration when we see a hot topic like this, regarding a real problem with the game, and the [Z] is from a moderator, not from a dev?
Please do not take it as bashing. What I am trying to say is that we are paying subs.. most of the people here anyway. And we are just asking for something that does not cost money, communication. When are you going to fix the problems? What is causing all this?
I played a bit a few days ago and the loading screens were several minutes long, porting to one zone to an other, teleporting to a player, teleporting to housing, and I haven't even tried Cyrodiil or dungeons! The loading screens are a big problem. I am thinking of cancelling the subscription if the game will continue to be like that. Because it takes out the fun from playing or doing something with friends. It is very annoying. Sometimes I play with a friend and we end up chatting more during loading screens than actually playing. It is sad. I started in beta. The game was awesome until it started going downhill due to performance issues and constant balance changes... I started disliking what is going after Murkmire. (Elsweyr was a great chapter, btw.. to bad for the server issues and odd nerfs)
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wolfbone✭✭✭✭✭I agree, they should change thismega server rubbish to shard isntead, so the strain is spread out as well. we might get a decent game that isntgoing to constaly have server issues
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wolfbone✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
After removing a handful of posts, we must remind everyone that Bashing is a violation of the rules that we have in place. When making threads/posts we ask that they be kept civil and constructive, as well as within the guidelines of the rules that we have in place. While having constructive opinions is allowed, and even encouraged, Bashing is not allowed. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to take a moment to review them here.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
Since you are here, it would be very much appreciated if you could ask a dev to comment a bit on these topics you are censoring (which I can understand). But please, can you understand our frustration when we see a hot topic like this, regarding a real problem with the game, and the [Z] is from a moderator, not from a dev?
Please do not take it as bashing. What I am trying to say is that we are paying subs.. most of the people here anyway. And we are just asking for something that does not cost money, communication. When are you going to fix the problems? What is causing all this?
I played a bit a few days ago and the loading screens were several minutes long, porting to one zone to an other, teleporting to a player, teleporting to housing, and I haven't even tried Cyrodiil or dungeons! The loading screens are a big problem. I am thinking of cancelling the subscription if the game will continue to be like that. Because it takes out the fun from playing or doing something with friends. It is very annoying. Sometimes I play with a friend and we end up chatting more during loading screens than actually playing. It is sad. I started in beta. The game was awesome until it started going downhill due to performance issues and constant balance changes... I started disliking what is going after Murkmire. (Elsweyr was a great chapter, btw.. to bad for the server issues and odd nerfs)
Thanks understanding
I agree. it's rather *** taking when they comment on a sub ject like this to just it'[s bene moderated
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craybest✭✭✭✭✭uhm ...no?
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Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭Don't be upset when you are forced to download the entire client ( game ) in 1st quarter 2020. that should get rid of a lot of the bad code.
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wolfbone✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
After removing a handful of posts, we must remind everyone that Bashing is a violation of the rules that we have in place. When making threads/posts we ask that they be kept civil and constructive, as well as within the guidelines of the rules that we have in place. While having constructive opinions is allowed, and even encouraged, Bashing is not allowed. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to take a moment to review them here.
Thank you for your understanding,
-Greg-
you call it bashing. is that because you, and the rest of zos dont want to face the fact that we as your player base have grown sick and tired of the many problems that are plaguing this game? is this how you censor our complaints? call it bashing and wipe them clean because once again, you dont want to accept that your game in a very bad place right now?
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