I just don't care any more...

Dzadzey · November 2019

AS I've played, for nearly a year now, I have gone from an enthusiastic member of the ESO community to...seemingly over night...just not giving a damn. The thought of logging into the game no longer fills me with anticipation but, instead, antipathy. I have always thought the game to be over monetized, but lately it seems to have gotten to the point of overkill. And the events add an air of being another, unpaid, job when the goal of the whole endeavor is for players to take a break from their real lives and jobs. Useless, unsellable, unrecycleable items as "gifts" from ZeniMax...way overpriced items from the Crown Store, including those requiring the utterly redundant "Crown Gems" and content on ESO Plus which should be standard in the vanilla edition. Nope. Just cant do it any more.

srfrogg23 · November 2019

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

stewhead2ub17_ESO · November 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

^ ^
This. Don't understand the need to make a post about this other than just attention seeking. Sit the next few plays out.

TheShadowScout · November 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

I do this often enough. Take a break from a game I have overplayed. Yes, even ESO. Spend a while doing something... completely different!
Then come back with renewed spirit, having fun playing my characters again.

It helps when you don't focus so much on some goal, but simply enjoy the road. (...and sadly, events where you can get vexed when you don't det that last style page drop or skeletal marionette part in whatever time you have to game for may be rather deterimental to gaming fun. But hey, at least with those, there is always the chance to finish next year!)

Kel · November 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

Fully agree with this.

Look at it this way OP....
Now you have an opportunity to pick up some games that you've been neglecting.
My "go to's" when I get ESO burnout are Red Dead, Witcher 3, heavily modded Skyrim (of course), and I'll even play some Madden.

Burn out is natural to any MMO. Take a break.

Asardes · November 2019

Can you actually get burnout from the Crown Store? Most items in there are only cosmetic.

TheShadowScout · November 2019

Asardes wrote: »

Can you actually get burnout from the Crown Store? Most items in there are only cosmetic.

The crown store cosmetics are... a bit like candyland. Its really nifty at first, and there is always more candy then you have pocket money for. But after a while, you realize the sweetness is all the same, and start to get picky about the details... and then you might find they just happen to not have the candy flavor you were looking for right now... and you start loosing interest... but eventually a new candy flavor comes in that makes you think: "hey, that one sure looks tasty" and you start the dance again...

myskyrim26 · November 2019

OP, don't stop here - asking for everything to be free is not enough. Start asking ZOS to pay you for playing the game. They should give you everything for free and pay you a monthly salary just to be sure you keep playing.

Asardes · November 2019

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Can you actually get burnout from the Crown Store? Most items in there are only cosmetic.

The crown store cosmetics are... a bit like candyland. Its really nifty at first, and there is always more candy then you have pocket money for. But after a while, you realize the sweetness is all the same, and start to get picky about the details... and then you might find they just happen to not have the candy flavor you were looking for right now... and you start loosing interest... but eventually a new candy flavor comes in that makes you think: "hey, that one sure looks tasty" and you start the dance again...

Well I understand burnout as something that results from doing some exerting, stressful task over and over again. There are plenty of tasks in this game that can result in burnout. For example farming a dungeon, vMA, progressing a difficult trial, going for BG leaderboard or Emperor in PvP, grinding CP like crazy for days or weeks on end can do that but browsing trough a couple of hundreds of items in the crown store takes maybe an hour if you are really picky, hardly enough to burn you out.

Kagukan · November 2019

This game is what you make it. It is a huge massive game. You don't have to do and have everything. Pick and choose what you will do. Take it easy and relax and have fun. Even with performance issues this is a great game. Relax and enjoy it.

RefLiberty · November 2019

It seems that OP needs a hug.

Kadoin · November 2019

Read a book, they never get old, and when they do...

So are you!

Neoealth · November 2019

I burn out on mmo's in cycles. It's really normal. As others have said just go do something else that is fun or interesting, the urge to play again often returns in time. All you need to do is just hope the servers are working when you return. :-p

Drachenfier · November 2019

Dzadzey wrote: »

AS I've played, for nearly a year now, I have gone from an enthusiastic member of the ESO community to...seemingly over night...just not giving a damn. The thought of logging into the game no longer fills me with anticipation but, instead, antipathy. I have always thought the game to be over monetized, but lately it seems to have gotten to the point of overkill. And the events add an air of being another, unpaid, job when the goal of the whole endeavor is for players to take a break from their real lives and jobs. Useless, unsellable, unrecycleable items as "gifts" from ZeniMax...way overpriced items from the Crown Store, including those requiring the utterly redundant "Crown Gems" and content on ESO Plus which should be standard in the vanilla edition. Nope. Just cant do it any more.

I have reached this point multiple times since the game launched, and have taken multiple breaks. The difference between us, however, is that I've never felt the need to let every one know...

regime211 · November 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

It "Might" still be here lol

theyancey · November 2019

It does seem like much of the magic is gone these days.

srfrogg23 · November 2019

regime211 wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

It "Might" still be here lol

This isn't Wildstar.

barney2525 · November 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

To be fair, its the culture of 2019.

For an entire generation we have been trained to want more and more instant gratification. When something stops delivering, we are done with it and move on to something new. Its a mindset now. No one wants to start from the bottom and build, step by step, enjoying the process as much as the challenges.

How many players actually listen to the entirety of the NPC conversations before selecting your character's answer?

It's easy to burn out when you have been conditioned to push push push to the top.

Take some time to smell the roses.

IMHO

barney2525 · November 2019

Drachenfier wrote: »

Dzadzey wrote: »

AS I've played, for nearly a year now, I have gone from an enthusiastic member of the ESO community to...seemingly over night...just not giving a damn. The thought of logging into the game no longer fills me with anticipation but, instead, antipathy. I have always thought the game to be over monetized, but lately it seems to have gotten to the point of overkill. And the events add an air of being another, unpaid, job when the goal of the whole endeavor is for players to take a break from their real lives and jobs. Useless, unsellable, unrecycleable items as "gifts" from ZeniMax...way overpriced items from the Crown Store, including those requiring the utterly redundant "Crown Gems" and content on ESO Plus which should be standard in the vanilla edition. Nope. Just cant do it any more.

I have reached this point multiple times since the game launched, and have taken multiple breaks. The difference between us, however, is that I've never felt the need to let every one know...

well, until now

Nemesis7884 · November 2019

You did care enough to start a new thread ^^

but yeah, sooner or later, every mmo has its expiration date...maybe this is late cycle for eso...who knows... i am also more in the mood for more great single player games or a brand new mmo to be honest... and i find myself using the forum way more than i care to actually log into the game anymore...

ACamaroGuy · November 2019

Drachenfier wrote: »

Dzadzey wrote: »

AS I've played, for nearly a year now, I have gone from an enthusiastic member of the ESO community to...seemingly over night...just not giving a damn. The thought of logging into the game no longer fills me with anticipation but, instead, antipathy. I have always thought the game to be over monetized, but lately it seems to have gotten to the point of overkill. And the events add an air of being another, unpaid, job when the goal of the whole endeavor is for players to take a break from their real lives and jobs. Useless, unsellable, unrecycleable items as "gifts" from ZeniMax...way overpriced items from the Crown Store, including those requiring the utterly redundant "Crown Gems" and content on ESO Plus which should be standard in the vanilla edition. Nope. Just cant do it any more.

I have reached this point multiple times since the game launched, and have taken multiple breaks. The difference between us, however, is that I've never felt the need to let every one know...

Until now...

rafaelcsmaia · November 2019

I believe some people take MMORPGs to a level of such importance that when they get bored or whatnot they feel like theyre ending a relationship.

You dont need to play ESO everyday, just when you want to.

If you feel like playing a new game for a month, its not the end of the world, you dont need to unninstall the game, say that you quit or start saying bad stuff about the game.

xMovingTarget · November 2019

Just be a good costumer. Don't play the game. So you reduce server lag, just login, buy crowns and log out once per day. That is all that zos wants you to do.
Everything else will only just frustrate you anyways.

Goregrinder · November 2019

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

Not sure, probably haven't had enough hobbies in their life to realize this. I've been playing since Beta 2013, and I take 3 or 4 months breaks, then come back.

Nemesis7884 · November 2019

i am just said that while more and more games release, most games seem just to look primarily at ways to suck your wallet dry than about being fun first ...

Goregrinder · November 2019

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

i am just said that while more and more games release, most games seem just to look primarily at ways to suck your wallet dry than about being fun first ...

I mean they aren't here for charity, so it makes sense they want to make as much money as they possibly can.

effincreep · November 2019

When I am feeling burned out on ESO or any game as others have said, I just take break for a bit. but with ESO I typically even if burned out I try to log in at least once a day to collect goods and stock bank so when I come back to actually play alls in order.

Nemesis7884 · November 2019

Goregrinder wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

i am just said that while more and more games release, most games seem just to look primarily at ways to suck your wallet dry than about being fun first ...

I mean they aren't here for charity, so it makes sense they want to make as much money as they possibly can.

there is a huge difference between making a great game, having a vision and executing it and than monetizing it reasonably as it used to be vs. thinking about maximizing monetization in every step of game development as primary objective and making a game intentionally shittier to increase monetization

That some slow people still to this way havent understood that monetization such as loot boxes and microtransactions results in games being made intentionally shittier and more annoying without them is really beyond me so i am just assuming devils advocates on the topic are paid shills by the gaming industry

Goregrinder · November 2019

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

i am just said that while more and more games release, most games seem just to look primarily at ways to suck your wallet dry than about being fun first ...

I mean they aren't here for charity, so it makes sense they want to make as much money as they possibly can.

there is a huge difference between making a great game, having a vision and executing it and than monetizing it reasonably as it used to be vs. thinking about maximizing monetization in every step of game development as primary objective and making a game intentionally shittier to increase monetization

That some slow people still to this way havent understood that monetization such as loot boxes and microtransactions results in games being made intentionally shittier and more annoying without them is really beyond me so i am just assuming devils advocates on the topic are paid shills by the gaming industry

"Great" is a subjective word. Objectively, they can't make a game to begin with without money. They can't run a game for years on high fives and heart emojis over Social Media. Money talks.

srfrogg23 · November 2019

Goregrinder wrote: »

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Why do people act like burnout isn't normal or natural?

Take a break and stop acting like this is some profound event. It's just a game and it will still be here when you're ready to play again.

Not sure, probably haven't had enough hobbies in their life to realize this. I've been playing since Beta 2013, and I take 3 or 4 months breaks, then come back.

Same here. Play for a few months, break for a few months, binge during events, lose interest... it's pretty cyclical.

Nemesis7884 · November 2019

Goregrinder wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

i am just said that while more and more games release, most games seem just to look primarily at ways to suck your wallet dry than about being fun first ...

I mean they aren't here for charity, so it makes sense they want to make as much money as they possibly can.

there is a huge difference between making a great game, having a vision and executing it and than monetizing it reasonably as it used to be vs. thinking about maximizing monetization in every step of game development as primary objective and making a game intentionally shittier to increase monetization

That some slow people still to this way havent understood that monetization such as loot boxes and microtransactions results in games being made intentionally shittier and more annoying without them is really beyond me so i am just assuming devils advocates on the topic are paid shills by the gaming industry

"Great" is a subjective word. Objectively, they can't make a game to begin with without money. They can't run a game for years on high fives and heart emojis over Social Media. Money talks.

I disagree completely....no great game ever was created when the primary drive was soley money imo

if your primary drive is making a great game, you get games like fallout new vegas

if your primary drive is money, you get games like fallout 76