EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Trials don't even sell. The end game PvE community is just as unhappy as the PvP community, due to the meta being fundamentally shaken up twice in the last 4-6 months, with each shake making it less fun and less engaging, as well as a lack of any new content with Dragonhold.
Questing, housing, everything casual is what sells. The number of newer players and the number of casual players increased, while the number of dedicated players decreases.
This performance improvement was changing the way memory was managed. Also, DO NOT, expect any of the upcoming "performance updates" to improve the game for you. All that ZOS has ever said in all the years of supposed performance improvements that they've rolled out was that some players may see a small increase in FPS especially on older machines. THATS IT. I challenge you to find anything more. Also theres no reason not to cancel your subscription now. You can always start it back up if you really need to or things somehow do get better, but its not going to happen.
You should never 'force' things upon the community. That never works, also in the real world. People will do wtf they want anyway in games, and if their freedom to do so is being removed, they will leave. Trying to force players to be social is both naive and stupid from a business POV as well as a gameplay POV.This performance improvement was changing the way memory was managed. Also, DO NOT, expect any of the upcoming "performance updates" to improve the game for you. All that ZOS has ever said in all the years of supposed performance improvements that they've rolled out was that some players may see a small increase in FPS especially on older machines. THATS IT. I challenge you to find anything more. Also theres no reason not to cancel your subscription now. You can always start it back up if you really need to or things somehow do get better, but its not going to happen.
Also Matt Firor said he's ok with people come and play a new update and leave to play other game's in a stream this year. Seems like ESO is a real massive singleplayer online role play game.
I mean what the f** is the point about content like malestorm arena in a MMORPG? What's the point about being in a guild beside trading an trail scores? When did they implement content for guild's? When did ZOS stuff to force players to be social? Where are the Q&A stream's with famous guild leaders?
Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Metemsycosis wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Trials don't even sell. The end game PvE community is just as unhappy as the PvP community, due to the meta being fundamentally shaken up twice in the last 4-6 months, with each shake making it less fun and less engaging, as well as a lack of any new content with Dragonhold.
Questing, housing, everything casual is what sells. The number of newer players and the number of casual players increased, while the number of dedicated players decreases.
Why would people act like eso plus was introduced to support server performance? What a joke. And how naive of a thought.
Thanks genius. I am a PvP main. Like many PvP mains, I have paid the small monthly fee for Plus because of the crafting bag. Many of my friends do the same. The reason I posted this thread is that I’m considering canceling Plus due to awful performance.EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Metemsycosis wrote: »Wow. Home skillet we dont know each other. I answer these threads with my own time and am usually genuine even if mistaken. Just so you know, I have a masters degree in english. Learning to read is the last thing on my agenda.
My point is and was very simple, "genius": eso plus and pvp land are imo non overlapping magisteria. They dont have too much to do with the other. One was added as a supplemental money maker, the other doa (but already paid for).
Metemsycosis wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Trials don't even sell. The end game PvE community is just as unhappy as the PvP community, due to the meta being fundamentally shaken up twice in the last 4-6 months, with each shake making it less fun and less engaging, as well as a lack of any new content with Dragonhold.
Questing, housing, everything casual is what sells. The number of newer players and the number of casual players increased, while the number of dedicated players decreases.
Honestly that doesn't change much of what i said.
Pvp server performance is still largely (completely) irrelevant wrt selling the game. I am not sure i have personally ever experienced lag in a dungeon that wasnt a dc too, but lag has been a staple of cyrodiil since day one.
Why would people act like eso plus was introduced to support server performance? What a joke. And how naive of a thought.
My most consistent gripe with this game is and will always be the lag.
But i like it despite this glaring flaw.
Stratforge wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Trials don't even sell. The end game PvE community is just as unhappy as the PvP community, due to the meta being fundamentally shaken up twice in the last 4-6 months, with each shake making it less fun and less engaging, as well as a lack of any new content with Dragonhold.
Questing, housing, everything casual is what sells. The number of newer players and the number of casual players increased, while the number of dedicated players decreases.
Why would people act like eso plus was introduced to support server performance? What a joke. And how naive of a thought.
If you’re getting lippy with me I strongly suggest you learn to read as I never suggested that ESO plus was introduced to support server performance, and I don’t think anyone else in this thread did either.Thanks genius. I am a PvP main. Like many PvP mains, I have paid the small monthly fee for Plus because of the crafting bag. Many of my friends do the same. The reason I posted this thread is that I’m considering canceling Plus due to awful performance.EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Also I disagree with your assertion that if hardcore PvPers stopped paying for Plus anything would change (I doubt we have the numbers to move the needle for ZoS), but I’m willing to find out.
EtTuBrutus wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Trials don't even sell. The end game PvE community is just as unhappy as the PvP community, due to the meta being fundamentally shaken up twice in the last 4-6 months, with each shake making it less fun and less engaging, as well as a lack of any new content with Dragonhold.
Questing, housing, everything casual is what sells. The number of newer players and the number of casual players increased, while the number of dedicated players decreases.
Honestly that doesn't change much of what i said.
Pvp server performance is still largely (completely) irrelevant wrt selling the game. I am not sure i have personally ever experienced lag in a dungeon that wasnt a dc too, but lag has been a staple of cyrodiil since day one.
Why would people act like eso plus was introduced to support server performance? What a joke. And how naive of a thought.
My most consistent gripe with this game is and will always be the lag.
But i like it despite this glaring flaw.
It wasn't created to help pvp performance. But by throwing money at them you're telling then it's ok to ignore performance fixes. If you give a dog a bone for taking a dump on your shoes, don't be surprised when youre stepping in crap.
Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »Metemsycosis wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »If you're a pvp main and you pay for this performance, you're part of the problem. Money talks.
Except pvp doesn't sell eso, trials do
The number of players increases but the number of pvpers decreases.
Not to mention is there a feedback button for folks that unsub?
I aint gonna lie
They got me with the crafting/bank.
Whimpers. Almost ashamed to admit it.
Trials don't even sell. The end game PvE community is just as unhappy as the PvP community, due to the meta being fundamentally shaken up twice in the last 4-6 months, with each shake making it less fun and less engaging, as well as a lack of any new content with Dragonhold.
Questing, housing, everything casual is what sells. The number of newer players and the number of casual players increased, while the number of dedicated players decreases.
Honestly that doesn't change much of what i said.
Pvp server performance is still largely (completely) irrelevant wrt selling the game. I am not sure i have personally ever experienced lag in a dungeon that wasnt a dc too, but lag has been a staple of cyrodiil since day one.
Why would people act like eso plus was introduced to support server performance? What a joke. And how naive of a thought.
My most consistent gripe with this game is and will always be the lag.
But i like it despite this glaring flaw.
It wasn't created to help pvp performance. But by throwing money at them you're telling then it's ok to ignore performance fixes. If you give a dog a bone for taking a dump on your shoes, don't be surprised when youre stepping in crap.
Legit no im not saying it is ok to ignore performance fixes.
What i am saying is as long as my bank space is doubled, i have a bag just for crafting, get 1500 crowns, access to new dlc when it drops, etc. Then eso plus is worthwhile for me.
You should never 'force' things upon the community. That never works, also in the real world. People will do wtf they want anyway in games, and if their freedom to do so is being removed, they will leave. Trying to force players to be social is both naive and stupid from a business POV as well as a gameplay POV.This performance improvement was changing the way memory was managed. Also, DO NOT, expect any of the upcoming "performance updates" to improve the game for you. All that ZOS has ever said in all the years of supposed performance improvements that they've rolled out was that some players may see a small increase in FPS especially on older machines. THATS IT. I challenge you to find anything more. Also theres no reason not to cancel your subscription now. You can always start it back up if you really need to or things somehow do get better, but its not going to happen.
Also Matt Firor said he's ok with people come and play a new update and leave to play other game's in a stream this year. Seems like ESO is a real massive singleplayer online role play game.
I mean what the f** is the point about content like malestorm arena in a MMORPG? What's the point about being in a guild beside trading an trail scores? When did they implement content for guild's? When did ZOS stuff to force players to be social? Where are the Q&A stream's with famous guild leaders?