CP pvp is trash, no arguments are valid.

or simple solution, buff siege

Every tank counter they've introduced has hit non-tanks worse.

The problem with doing this is you either don't have a hard enough counter and healers and tanks become meta.. or you have too much of a counter and healers and tanks cease to exist.

I don't find healers too bad, but tanks are absurd right now. It's unreal to me that one player can outlast 8 others and just constantly restore their health every 5 seconds. I don't know much about tank skill lines or how they do it, I just know they're broken beyond all reason, borderline unkillable sometimes. Somebody once told me "l2p and learn to interrupt" and thusfar interrupting has done nothing to stop tanks from yeeting on entire squads.

While I agree there is a huge increase of tanks and healers (don’t die builds) the only problem with adding something to help kill them is that will also be used on regular people that aren’t tanks. That’s kinda why they added poisons and yet tanks dont die but the 1vxers get bursted. I agree it’s a huge problem. Personally I think the only way they can counter it is start from the base. The heavy armor and sustain is crazy. You can be a complete trash can and just spam breath of life etc. so who knows 🤔

ChunkyCat wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

I don't find healers too bad, but tanks are absurd right now. It's unreal to me that one player can outlast 8 others and just constantly restore their health every 5 seconds. I don't know much about tank skill lines or how they do it, I just know they're broken beyond all reason, borderline unkillable sometimes. Somebody once told me "l2p and learn to interrupt" and thusfar interrupting has done nothing to stop tanks from yeeting on entire squads.

Sounds rough, bro.

Well I'm sure this is a borderline shtpost like everything you do on these forums, adding nothing of real value to the conversation but trying to inflate that post count - but yeah it is pretty rough, and frustrating. It's a pain in the arse spending 5 minutes dealing with a tank playing jackrabbit and self sustaining his health endlessly. It's an even bigger pain that you actually need a zeg or decently sized group to do it. You can't 1v1 these guys at all, you can bomb them, etc. and they won't die because of their massive health pools and resistances, and they just heal 1 second later. I run with the Emp in my campaign and his advice is to flee because of how pointless fighting them is. That says it all when even the top PVP recognize they're busted.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think "invincibility" builds should be a thing.

The PvP guild I was in on pc (I now play on xbox na) handled the tank meta builds with vitality/health/magica drain poisons with stacked dots and appropriately timed cc's. We had no problem taking down tank zerg's once we started doing that. Keep in mind this was around the Morrowind chapter though.

Sergykid wrote: »

CP pvp is trash, no arguments are valid.

NO CP is trash, function takes 0 positional arguments.

I'm not sure it's any sort of solution - but the only thing I can think to do is make self healing skills like Vigor have to go through resistances. So if you have high resistance then you get less self heals. Only if the healing comes from a another player should you get full heals as a tank, considering their massive health pools and damage resistance as is - slapping OP self heals on top is too unmanageable.
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Tanks and dedicated Healers are the Zerg control. People in this game simply want to enter an empty hold or resource farm and clame it with no opposition, If the enemy troops happens to appear they mustn’t be a challenge otherwise they need to be nerfed.

Ysbriel wrote: »

People in this game simply want to enter an empty hold or resource farm and clame it with no opposition.

No, we just want fair opposition.

The fact that you believe one single player should be able to hold a zerg is quite frankly stunning to me. A PVP mode should be balanced on a 1:1 ratio. Either Single Player vs Single Player or Group vs Group.

The way tanks are balanced right now is Single Player vs Group, and that's blatantly out of check if you ask me. ZOS gives no consideration to how 1 on 1 encounters with tanks go... but heck, you can ramp it up to small ZERG and they still survive an endless barrage.

Shardaxx wrote: »

Cirantille wrote: »

They are constantly out of stamina and try to heavy attack you like hitting with a wet noodle though

So just let them go, there is no use in chasing such people.

Healers are cool and needed in Cyrodiil but tanking is absurd, there are no boss to tank

Come to non cp:)

They are NOT out of stamina, because they break free in a nanosecond every time they get stunned, every 6 seconds or so. Tanky players can run around for ages, healing and kiting, taking next to no damage, breaking free, and can even turn around and dish out good damage in a burst from a dragon leap or something. People say 'oh just ignore them' well how do you do that when they are on flags?

Exactly. I wonder how many people here saying there's no problems with tanks have actually encountered one in PVP recently... there's absolutely no penalties at all to being Tank. Atleast healers are squishy and killable. DPS is the worst of everything, unable to hurt tanks and also relatively squishy. Tank is clearly the most overperfoming playstyle right now.