Essentially, yes. These are problems with high load, which you would not get in a more segregated server environment.

We don't know.

They haven't given out many technical details about how "megaservers" work or how similar/dissimilar it is, say, from the system in WoW that populates zone instances with people from different named servers. I do seem to recall from many years ago that the megaserver is in fact a collection of highly integrated servers, so it isn't like it's just one huge individual machine. It's a question of how those resources are allocated and how zone instances are formed without an account or character having to persistently identify with a particular partition of those networked machines. So there may in fact be "a" server in the megacluster that handles X, and another Y, and another Z, but to get into that, we'd probably need a ZOS engineer to pop on and explain how the servers are set up and what parts of the system are stressed by various aspects of game design and player population/behavior.


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Probably, they are trying to make it seem fancy and powerful by calling it a "megaserver", when in reality they are just saving money by consolidating everything onto one overloaded server. We should at least have a separate server for Cyrodiil.

simple_specops wrote: »

I was reading a post about how they are not pursuing the idea of a anz megaserver because of the issue with the population and game economy and so on, but what if the mega server concept was the issue, I mean what if there was a separate dedicated server for cyrodiil and the BG and group finder, wouldn't it be able to handle the work on its own? Either that or the GTA V way, with many more instances but at the same time all together on the queues

Define Megaserver.

Is it... A huge series of independent servers all operating through a single login system?
Is it... A huge multilayered system designed to rapidly instance content on the fly with a single login system?

Define for me the difference between having twenty explicitly independent servers like WOW and having a single system that will spawn up to twenty explicit instances on demand?

The answer is they are identical... but one is far less efficient, far more costly, and far less robust.
A megaserver allows a huge amount of things to be invisible to you, the user. If your "server" goes down in an independent system.. you cant play. If a part of a mega server instancing structure goes down... you lose capacity or a part of that world.

Honestly, the argument is pointless because there is no understanding as to how network technology has evolved.
When dealing with computers is the safest thing to do when you don't know.. is to assume anything you did 10 years ago is now not the best way of doing things.

Maybe I explained myself wrong, what I've seen in games like ff and the non official server's of wow, when you log in there are several "realms" not only one for Europe and one for NA, sure It seemed Cool enough at The beggining but now, expecially with the events seems a bit daft, I can't understand how in trial from 100fps we go down to 30 at best, or why the group Finder crashes every time, wouldn't be easier to just Dedicate some Space to the group finder in the same way you go to cyrodiil you go on to a different sever and maybe few different ones in case of events

I think if we on the forums, who have never seen the code that this game runs on, could come up with the reason for the problem, the problem would have been solved a long time ago by the developers who are up to their armpits in the code everyday.

Nestor wrote: »

I think if we on the forums, who have never seen the code that this game runs on, could come up with the reason for the problem, the problem would have been solved a long time ago by the developers who are up to their armpits in the code everyday.

Yeah fair point, but for the sake of argument

Ksariyu wrote: »

ESO's playerbase is smaller than it was six months ago when people weren't getting kicked every hour.
Bethesda as a company is KNOWN for taking every possible shortcut at the expense of their players.
GW2 RELEASED in 2012. I highly doubt it started development that same year.
If you can't explain something, you probably don't know enough about it yourself to use it in an argument.

Oops. I got a date wrong and didnt google it before hand like everyone else does. Yay Im old.
The correct date was technically 2007.. which was scrapped and then they redid everything in 2008.. then again in 2009. Then they spent 3 years making an MMO.

Secondly... Really? Bethesda? Do you understand Zenimax Online Studios makes ESO? Bethesda doesn't touch it. Bethesda doesn't have the same talent pool or the same focus. Two different companies. Why the hell is this crap still being uttered on these forums? Bethesda doesn't even have a multiplayer elements team! They used ID Softwares for FO76!

Thirdly... Echo chamber "My guilds empty now" when schools in session is a very bad argument.
GW2 equals one of the SIX server platforms running ESO in population right now.

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EVE Online? The game which started as a project to see if they could make hundreds of thousands of people exist in the same physical world without instancing? The game that has had THREE redesigns of its hardware AND software to allow for it to operate without turning into a cesspit of hell in TIDI? The game with less population of active players than any ONE element of ESOs 6 servers?
The game where they once trashed a test branch because they tried to change one figure their spaghetti code was so bad? Hell, they had to INVENT hardware elements for tranquility 3.
Let's not compare EVE to anything but EVE... It is a unique product of very very specialized development.

No one with a brain in their skull thinks the hardware cannot handle the task. The problem is, for whatever reason, in the development of ESO ZOS designed systems that had issues scaling or now have issues scaling due to changes made over time to hardware or software. You will never know which. No one will unless they work at ZOS or they make an incredibly rare press release about what it took to fix the problem.

The issue is people seem to think "slap a thread ripper on it and it fixes it!". This is wrong. Servers need software to work.
Often servers are LIMITED by that software more than their hardware. ZOS has point blank said, "our software cant handle the capacity required of it for PCEU and we are fixing that problem.".

No amount of hardware will fix the problem if its a software bottleneck. No amount of money will make the recode happen faster and adding more programmers to the project will often, in my experience, cause a train wreck of epic proportions. Sometimes it sucks and the only method that actually fixes your problem is slow. Gamers don't understand. Gamers think its laziness or cheapness. Gamers don't give a **** that software takes time.
ESO is the poster child for "we grew too big for what we wanted to be".

Concept is fine!
Implementation is something else entirely!