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Takes 100 clicks to craft a CP160 Nirnhoned Resto Staff in Dragonguard style
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mayasunrising✭✭✭✭✭I agree that it would be great if we had some sort of search feature for styles. We can pretty much assume that list will continue to grow."And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ♥ Anaïs Nin
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JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Here I came expecting it was bugged and had a chuckle, but since I don't have most style it will be like 70 clicks for me0 -
tmbrinks✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Use Writ Worthy. Accept the contract, go to the set station, click on the station, writ worthy does it for you with only the one click. Assuming you're on PC, which your sig indicates you are....
Not everything you craft is a contract (writ), several times you craft complete sets or individual pieces for you or others, and so no addon can craft there.
And even talking about writs, you can't accept more than one writ of the same type (ie: blacksmithing), so, unless you go and come back from the vouchers NPC constantly, you have to manually craft those writs since addons can't craft writs that you didn't accept as a quest.
I know you know, but again I add that only PC has addons.
WritWorthy can craft all the master writs you have in your inventory (can do bank as well, but I don't do that), then you just turn them all in one at a time at the station. You don't accept "open" them beforehand, just when you get to Rolls.
Saves an enormous amount of time.
If you're on PC, you can use Dolgubon's Lazy Set Crafter to avoid all the clicking as well to make non-Master writ items. That add-on has drop down menus.
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Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I applaude your experimental procedure and appreciate the information! I play with a controller and gamepad UI so there's less clicking invoved, since we can navigate type of weapon/mats/styles etc., with the joystick, but it still takes time for options towards the end for sure.0 -
Salix_alba✭✭✭✭So your're saying it takes too much time... And you arrived at this conclusion by wasting more time to sit there and count the clicks? Sound about right.
try to grab the farthest style on the right and swipe it left really fast you can reach the end of the list in 2-3 swipes
also yes the crafting system needs a search by text bar not just one from an addon0 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Salix_alba wrote: »So your're saying it takes too much time... And you arrived at this conclusion by wasting more time to sit there and count the clicks? Sound about right.
try to grab the farthest style on the right and swipe it left really fast you can reach the end of the list in 2-3 swipes
also yes the crafting system needs a search by text bar not just one from an addon
How can I ask for a revamp of the UI if I don't SPEND time (remove "waste") testing to provide proof? My God!
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Use Writ Worthy. Accept the contract, go to the set station, click on the station, writ worthy does it for you with only the one click. Assuming you're on PC, which your sig indicates you are....
Not everything you craft is a contract (writ), several times you craft complete sets or individual pieces for you or others, and so no addon can craft there.
And even talking about writs, you can't accept more than one writ of the same type (ie: blacksmithing), so, unless you go and come back from the vouchers NPC constantly, you have to manually craft those writs since addons can't craft writs that you didn't accept as a quest.
I know you know, but again I add that only PC has addons.
WritWorthy can craft all the master writs you have in your inventory (can do bank as well, but I don't do that), then you just turn them all in one at a time at the station. You don't accept "open" them beforehand, just when you get to Rolls.
Saves an enormous amount of time.
If you're on PC, you can use Dolgubon's Lazy Set Crafter to avoid all the clicking as well to make non-Master writ items. That add-on has drop down menus.
(I completely agree with your premise that there are too many "clicks" to scroll through the crafting menu though, not arguing that in the least, but PC at least has add-ons to alleviate the issue nearly completely)
Oh, hmmm. Must be a setting in there I missed then? In fact, I noticed today that WW isn't wanting to auto craft my jewelry writs.... I didn't know about Lazy Set Crafter - gonna have to check that one out for sure. Thank you!1 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭1 A for station
1 Down to Create.
1 A to enter create.
4 Right to resto.
1 Down to materials.
9 Right to Ruby Ash
2 Down to Style
65 Right to Dragonguard (dunno where you got another 10 styles)
1 Down to Traits
9 right to Nirn
1 X to craft.
95 movements on console. Quite a workout.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭1 A for station
1 Down to Create.
1 A to enter create.
4 Right to resto.
1 Down to materials.
9 Right to Ruby Ash
2 Down to Style
65 Right to Dragonguard (dunno where you got another 10 styles)
1 Down to Traits
9 right to Nirn
1 X to craft.
95 movements on console. Quite a workout.
Holy cow! That's worst than straight clicking.
There are 76 crafting motifs in total (maybe you are showing only the styles you know).
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »1 A for station
1 Down to Create.
1 A to enter create.
4 Right to resto.
1 Down to materials.
9 Right to Ruby Ash
2 Down to Style
65 Right to Dragonguard (dunno where you got another 10 styles)
1 Down to Traits
9 right to Nirn
1 X to craft.
95 movements on console. Quite a workout.
Holy cow! That's worst than straight clicking.
There are 76 crafting motifs in total (maybe you are showing only the styles you know).
I dunno, i unchecked Have Knowledge so it showed all styles.
Nvm, had to uncheck mats too. Still only counted 73 styles. Could have miscounted though, i hate numbers.Edited by ArchMikem on November 12, 2019 2:39AMCP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!1 -
LuckyLuke✭✭✭This is most worthy training! You may notice it can help to improve your weaving style 😉0 -
barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »
wellllll.... maybe they Should
It's one thing to complain about something.
It's an entirely different issue when a simple solution is given and they say ' I don't want to do it that way'.
Edited by barney2525 on November 12, 2019 6:12AM0 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Just for the "fun" of testing:
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100 clicks to craft a CP160 Nirnhoned Resto Staff in Dragonguard style.
Someone needs improvement... cough!... crafting UI.. cough!...
For the fun you are right. But does this really need improvement ? And killing a boss requires multiple people to click like 200 times each. To much interaction with the game ?0 -
Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭A search function would be nice. Are all the styles called the same thing in different languages?0 -
UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Just make it as Breton style, and change it to whatever motif in the outfit station.0 -
lillybit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭UntilValhalla13 wrote: »Just make it as Breton style, and change it to whatever motif in the outfit station.
How does that work for master writs...PS4 EU1 -
LuxLunae✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Just for the "fun" of testing:
- 1 click to interact with the crafting station (of course)
Then:
- 4 clicks to get from Bow to Restoration Staff
- 9 clicks to get from Sanded Maple (Level - 1 mat) to Sanded Ruby Ash (CP150 mat)
- 1 click to get the mat to CP160
- 9 clicks to get to from No Trait to Nirnhoned trait
- 75 clicks to get from Molybdenum mat (Breton - first style) to Gilding Salts (Dragonguard - last style)
And 1 more click to craft it (of course)
Total:
100 clicks to craft a CP160 Nirnhoned Resto Staff in Dragonguard style.
Someone needs improvement... cough!... crafting UI.. cough!...
Have you tried the outfit system?0 -
lillybit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Just for the "fun" of testing:
- 1 click to interact with the crafting station (of course)
Then:
- 4 clicks to get from Bow to Restoration Staff
- 9 clicks to get from Sanded Maple (Level - 1 mat) to Sanded Ruby Ash (CP150 mat)
- 1 click to get the mat to CP160
- 9 clicks to get to from No Trait to Nirnhoned trait
- 75 clicks to get from Molybdenum mat (Breton - first style) to Gilding Salts (Dragonguard - last style)
And 1 more click to craft it (of course)
Total:
100 clicks to craft a CP160 Nirnhoned Resto Staff in Dragonguard style.
Someone needs improvement... cough!... crafting UI.. cough!...
Have you tried the outfit system?
How is it helpful when someone is trying to highlight a problem, to just say to do something else instead that in no way solves the problem?
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Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »Dragonnord wrote: »
Maybe you should consider playing with a mouse ... instead of asking for a UI overhaul to accommodate your niche playstyle??
(cough, cough)
It's not "niche" to not play games with a mouse, if you play on a laptop.
Either way, it would make sense to rationalise the crafting process, especially as it continues to expand all the time.0 -
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✭✭Btw, you can add another 10 or so clicks on to that if you make a medium waist instead of a staff!PS4 EU1 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Use Writ Worthy. Accept the contract, go to the set station, click on the station, writ worthy does it for you with only the one click. Assuming you're on PC, which your sig indicates you are....
Yes, you can do that, but the thing is, you shouldn't have to essentially bypass entire portions of the game, via addons, should you?
These portions of the game should feel playable enough to not bother trying to skip them.
Not only that, but every update, any one of these addons can bug, or not be updated for a while and throw other things out with them.0 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Use Writ Worthy. Accept the contract, go to the set station, click on the station, writ worthy does it for you with only the one click. Assuming you're on PC, which your sig indicates you are....
Not everything you craft is a contract (writ), several times you craft complete sets or individual pieces for you or others, and so no addon can craft there.
And even talking about writs, you can't accept more than one writ of the same type (ie: blacksmithing), so, unless you go and come back from the vouchers NPC constantly, you have to manually craft those writs since addons can't craft writs that you didn't accept as a quest.
I know you know, but again I add that only PC has addons.
WritWorthy can craft all the master writs you have in your inventory (can do bank as well, but I don't do that), then you just turn them all in one at a time at the station. You don't accept "open" them beforehand, just when you get to Rolls.
Saves an enormous amount of time.
If you're on PC, you can use Dolgubon's Lazy Set Crafter to avoid all the clicking as well to make non-Master writ items. That add-on has drop down menus.
(I completely agree with your premise that there are too many "clicks" to scroll through the crafting menu though, not arguing that in the least, but PC at least has add-ons to alleviate the issue nearly completely)
So, I guess you then have to make sure you don't have any too expensive to bother with writs in your inv, at the time, otherwise it will craft them too?0 -
bakthi✭✭✭
No, you can choose the ones you want crafted. You bring up a window that shows all the writs you have in your inventory, and why you can't do some of them if applicable (e.g. style not learned, you don't have the style material, etc.) There are "enqueue all" and "dequeue all" buttons; I usually "enqueue all" and then un-tick any I don't want to craft. You can sort by all kinds of things; sorting by craft station is often useful.So, I guess you then have to make sure you don't have any too expensive to bother with writs in your inv, at the time, otherwise it will craft them too?
Apart from this saving a lot of time, it's also great if you want to craft e.g. Alchemy writs on your main crafter and have an alt turn them in, because the alt hasn't put points into Chemistry. The alt still has to be capable of making the item, but you can auto-craft it without opening the writ, then stick both in the bank.
Edit: I guess it's on-topic to note that I play with a controller, because I'm on a couch in front of a projector, but I do have a KB+M in front of me at all times. They're just kind of wonky and not reliable enough to use in combat for a game like this. But to do what I describe above, you need them. Also DressingRoom, chat, etc.Edited by bakthi on November 12, 2019 1:13PMArmy of me:CP810+: Breton Templar healer, Redguard stamina Warden, Imperial DK tank, Altmer magicka Sorceror, Orc stamina Sorceror/werewolf, Nord Necromancer tank, Khajit TG/DB Nightblade, Bosmer stamina Necromancer, Argonian Warden healer, Dunmer magicka DK, Nord Nightblade tank
Second account, CP400+: Breton magicka Warden, Nord Nightblade healer/solo vampire, Bosmer stamina Templar/werewolf, Dunmer magicka Necromancer, Orc stamina DK, Argonian Warden tank0 -
LuxLunae✭✭✭✭✭Dragonnord wrote: »Just for the "fun" of testing:
- 1 click to interact with the crafting station (of course)
Then:
- 4 clicks to get from Bow to Restoration Staff
- 9 clicks to get from Sanded Maple (Level - 1 mat) to Sanded Ruby Ash (CP150 mat)
- 1 click to get the mat to CP160
- 9 clicks to get to from No Trait to Nirnhoned trait
- 75 clicks to get from Molybdenum mat (Breton - first style) to Gilding Salts (Dragonguard - last style)
And 1 more click to craft it (of course)
Total:
100 clicks to craft a CP160 Nirnhoned Resto Staff in Dragonguard style.
Someone needs improvement... cough!... crafting UI.. cough!...
Have you tried the outfit system?
How is it helpful when someone is trying to highlight a problem, to just say to do something else instead that in no way solves the problem?
craft every item in breton...
go to outfit system and change the look of it...
The outfit system lets you scroll up and down looking at all the armors and such... If you know what you want..it should be done in less clicks...
it is a solution you needed...just not the one you deserve...0 -
L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭I never counted that, and I never felt like crafting was slow and I didn't actively noted that there are actually so many styles to craft.
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