CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »This is a fantasy RPG game where almost all your gear can be dyed in the most hideous shades of metallic pink...
Can we just have a bit of respect for those legendary artifacts that have been a huge part of the lore for over twenty years in some cases?
Thanks.
ZOS has my full support in blocking dyes on these items. The only reason I don't buy them is because I prefer a truly common look. However, when I see someone wielding a replica, I would like to think it's a 1:1 replica, and yes, that includes colour. Ask any serious model maker the same...
Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
Why? The ship on pink dyes has already sailed. And this is MMO, there are people who care about the lore and dress and name their characters accordingly and there are those who want to look ridiculous and have silly or just not well thought out names. There are orcs in wedding dresses, nordic bathing towels, ridiculous shiny skins and particle effects, glowing mounts, and tons of other stuff that can be considered not friendly to the lore. So I don't think that pink Mehrunes' Razor would ruin anything. As I said, if you care about such things, that ship has already sailed. So what else have you got?
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
Why? The ship on pink dyes has already sailed. And this is MMO, there are people who care about the lore and dress and name their characters accordingly and there are those who want to look ridiculous and have silly or just not well thought out names. There are orcs in wedding dresses, nordic bathing towels, ridiculous shiny skins and particle effects, glowing mounts, and tons of other stuff that can be considered not friendly to the lore. So I don't think that pink Mehrunes' Razor would ruin anything. As I said, if you care about such things, that ship has already sailed. So what else have you got?
Yes, the ship has sailed on that, but that doesn't mean the whole darn fleet need to aswell. Can't we have some restraint in all the sparkle mounts, skins and horrible dye jobs.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
Why? The ship on pink dyes has already sailed. And this is MMO, there are people who care about the lore and dress and name their characters accordingly and there are those who want to look ridiculous and have silly or just not well thought out names. There are orcs in wedding dresses, nordic bathing towels, ridiculous shiny skins and particle effects, glowing mounts, and tons of other stuff that can be considered not friendly to the lore. So I don't think that pink Mehrunes' Razor would ruin anything. As I said, if you care about such things, that ship has already sailed. So what else have you got?
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
Why? The ship on pink dyes has already sailed. And this is MMO, there are people who care about the lore and dress and name their characters accordingly and there are those who want to look ridiculous and have silly or just not well thought out names. There are orcs in wedding dresses, nordic bathing towels, ridiculous shiny skins and particle effects, glowing mounts, and tons of other stuff that can be considered not friendly to the lore. So I don't think that pink Mehrunes' Razor would ruin anything. As I said, if you care about such things, that ship has already sailed. So what else have you got?
I'll tell you why I think the artefacts should not be dyed: Unlike most MMORPGs which are set in a universe made in the outset for the game, ESO came in just shy of TWENTY years AFTER the universe was established.
Like it or not but some of us here were quite invested in Elder Scrolls long before the idea of an MMO even entered the conference room at Zenimax Towers, and long before many people here ever touched an Elder Scrolls game.
Now I'm fine with, well actually I'm not, but I tolerate all the pink armour that isn't based on a literal divine artifact. Most armour and weapons in this game are just that: Weapons with no real lore.
The artefacts though? No that's where myself and I suspect many life-long fans of TES draw the line. These artefacts sometimes have more lore than an entire city of characters to their name.
I don't expect you to agree with me, but the reacts already show me that several people in fact do, and well, the reality is right now, so does ZOS.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
Why? The ship on pink dyes has already sailed. And this is MMO, there are people who care about the lore and dress and name their characters accordingly and there are those who want to look ridiculous and have silly or just not well thought out names. There are orcs in wedding dresses, nordic bathing towels, ridiculous shiny skins and particle effects, glowing mounts, and tons of other stuff that can be considered not friendly to the lore. So I don't think that pink Mehrunes' Razor would ruin anything. As I said, if you care about such things, that ship has already sailed. So what else have you got?
I'll tell you why I think the artefacts should not be dyed: Unlike most MMORPGs which are set in a universe made in the outset for the game, ESO came in just shy of TWENTY years AFTER the universe was established.
Like it or not but some of us here were quite invested in Elder Scrolls long before the idea of an MMO even entered the conference room at Zenimax Towers, and long before many people here ever touched an Elder Scrolls game.
Now I'm fine with, well actually I'm not, but I tolerate all the pink armour that isn't based on a literal divine artifact. Most armour and weapons in this game are just that: Weapons with no real lore.
The artefacts though? No that's where myself and I suspect many life-long fans of TES draw the line. These artefacts sometimes have more lore than an entire city of characters to their name.
I don't expect you to agree with me, but the reacts already show me that several people in fact do, and well, the reality is right now, so does ZOS.
And no matter how much you care about the story behind these artifacts, ESO is still a game, there's really no point getting angry about it. I'd say live and let live, especially since you got your way with artifacts. I'm just trying to have fun discussion here.
CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Why do you people care about what others want to do? If you don't want to dye that artifact then don't, I don't have any problem with someone running with pink Mahrunes' Razor, at least no more than with multiple people running with a normal colored one. The pink one can be called Steve's Razor for all I care. And if your gripe is with bright colored, glowy or shiny stuff in general then I hate to break it to you, that ship has already sailed years ago.
Still, even if I could I probably wouldn't be dyeing my artifact if I ever get one.
If I can toggle off the dye on my end, sure.
Until then, while I have no choice in seeing those ugly "outfits" people make for their characters, I have one request: The artifact replicas are exempt from pink dye.
I think that's a reasonable compromise.
Why? The ship on pink dyes has already sailed. And this is MMO, there are people who care about the lore and dress and name their characters accordingly and there are those who want to look ridiculous and have silly or just not well thought out names. There are orcs in wedding dresses, nordic bathing towels, ridiculous shiny skins and particle effects, glowing mounts, and tons of other stuff that can be considered not friendly to the lore. So I don't think that pink Mehrunes' Razor would ruin anything. As I said, if you care about such things, that ship has already sailed. So what else have you got?
I'll tell you why I think the artefacts should not be dyed: Unlike most MMORPGs which are set in a universe made in the outset for the game, ESO came in just shy of TWENTY years AFTER the universe was established.
Like it or not but some of us here were quite invested in Elder Scrolls long before the idea of an MMO even entered the conference room at Zenimax Towers, and long before many people here ever touched an Elder Scrolls game.
Now I'm fine with, well actually I'm not, but I tolerate all the pink armour that isn't based on a literal divine artifact. Most armour and weapons in this game are just that: Weapons with no real lore.
The artefacts though? No that's where myself and I suspect many life-long fans of TES draw the line. These artefacts sometimes have more lore than an entire city of characters to their name.
I don't expect you to agree with me, but the reacts already show me that several people in fact do, and well, the reality is right now, so does ZOS.
You sound angry. Chill. I think if we were to draw the line somewhere it would be on players having those "replicas" at all. If I see dozen of players running around with a dozen of Mehrunes' Razors, I really don't care if one happens to be pink. As I said, I wouldn't dye mine pink, but the ship on lore friendliness has sailed, even in regard to the artifact. And I love the lore and I do get annoyed by some players looks, their unfamiliarity with the lore or even stories in game, their silly or lazy names, but that unfortunately comes with the territory of a MMO. I just tend to tune those things out, so I'd just tune out pink razors same as everything else. And sure, I'd prefer a single player TES game but since Bethesda doesn't provide, here I am. Of course I don't expect for you to agree with me, but I really don't appreciate curating other people's fun due to some of your own biases. Especially since if we go by the replica route those unfaithful replicas are really even more lore friendly to me since it would be clearly seen that they aren't the real thing. And no matter how much you care about the story behind these artifacts, ESO is still a game, there's really no point getting angry about it. I'd say live and let live, especially since you got your way with artifacts. I'm just trying to have fun discussion here.
Bethesda likely created the somewhat contradictory parameters. The artifacts could be in the Crown Store. They had to be labelled as fake. But they also had to retain all distinctive features of the original gear.
As items like the Ebony Blade or Goldbrand have color as a distinctive feature, it was probably decided early on to make a global rule (no dyes), rather than consider them on a case by case basis. Also, it's subjective at what point distinctive features are obscured. Would painting Spellbreaker all black make it substantially less recognizable as Spellbreaker? Possibly.
This is probably also why the Dawnbreaker Artifact Style was not included in the Meridian motif.
You don't paint priceless artifacts, you savages! But you also don't use them in battle... They should be in a museum!
Rabble! Rabble! Rabble!
No, I honestly don't care. Don't buy them if you don't like them... I didn't!