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Block in need of serious nerfs
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FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Plus blocking is not always effective. There are a number of attacks that blast through blocks. Tanks who simply permablock do not survive.
And it does have a resource drain. It costs stamina.
Another whiny PvP babythread.... balance blocking for you means you ruin tanks for BRF and DoM to name but two.
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Zatox✭✭✭✭360 degrees blocking is too much.
I would like, if radius will be limited to ~180 with shield (via some passives) and ~120 with other weapons.
This is definitely add some extra movement and positioning for a tanking in PVE, and nerf permablocking and 1vX builds in PVP.
But, to be honest, i dont really care about it, not a biggest problem in the game.0 -
BejaProphet✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think at this point I think I’d support a permanent forum ban for further requests to nerf tanks for the sake of PvP.Royal Poet's Dungeon Tanking Guide https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416797/royal-poets-guide-to-traditional-tanking-in-veteran-dungeons#latest1 -
khajiitNPC✭✭✭✭✭You people do realize that PvPers also PvE to the same and sometimes at a higher tier than PvEers?
So tired of this forum tribalism in regards to PvP vs PvE as a majority of players do both. That being said OP this is purely a L2P issue and one that can be solved a number of ways. 1st if it’s one on one, ignore them. If it’s in a zerg or ball group focus healer and DD, have someone constantly Stunning or Immobilizing the tank (if they are using immovable pots just wait until buff falls off), hard CCs work the best. Then it’s wham bam the tank is done. It takes longer to kill them yes, but those sort of tanks in the bigger scheme are pretty useless when you’re with a competent group.2 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pretty sure you are ignoring the PvE aspect of blocking that a tank does.
Zos has nerfed blocking by increasing the cost of blocking and eliminating stamina regen while blocking.
As a PVP player, I support this statement. I used to tank in PVE, mind you.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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Kaios✭✭It doesn't seem like blocking is really the issue, personally I'm just tired of running in to guys that can tank/sustain forever but also deal a considerable amount of damage.Edited by Kaios on November 9, 2019 9:42PM0
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JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unless you’re running DAMAGE and PEN, you really don’t need to be begging for NERFS.
Nerf BLOCKING? Lmao. Strive to improve...Edited by JumpmanLane on November 9, 2019 10:19PM0 -
Fawn4287✭✭✭✭✭
✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Unless you’re running DAMAGE and PEN, you really don’t need to be begging for NERFS.
Nerf BLOCKING? Lmao. Strive to improve...
Maul, spriggans, 51 points in to piercing, 4k weapon damage, 35k stam, minor fracture on POTL, but how about find a build with enough damage to burst down anything sitting on its backbar spamming heals0 -
kpittsniperb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Blocking seems to be a persistent problem, regardless of meta and tank builds seem to be the easy thumbless players favourite, however its for the most part sword and board blocking that is the real issue. There shouldn’t be such a high degree of cost reduction and added damage mitigation simply by using the most potato friendly form of damage mitigation. The idea that using a couple of glyphs, adding some armour traits a disgusting amount of CP in to block cost reduction and before you know it you can perm block ON A MAGICA BUILD. This is however what happens when you balance PvP and PvE together.
Im no master of how to balance an MMO but I feel that the blocking either needs a fatigue (like streak and roll dodge) or it needs to have its cost and damage reduction passives added to skills within the weapon line rather than as passives, in order to make it not such an attractive back bar option for so many different builds. Block casting is another huge issue, you cannot spam multiple abilities at once and you cannot use abilities whilst heavy attacking or dodge rolling, so why can you cast abilities whilst holding block? It really is an insane crutch when someone is in execute with no active HOT, holds block and heals like its nothing.
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red_emu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Blocking is fine. Stun them, wear them down. If they are build for defence, they won't have enough damage, penetration, crit chance or stamina regen to kill you. Wear the tank resources down and they become a harmless sheep.PC - EU:
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david_m_18b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Nerf plate armor passives, bow skills and magicka. Plz don't touch to dw, and medium armor, those are fine.Edited by david_m_18b16_ESO on November 9, 2019 11:13PM1
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karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Canned_Apples wrote: »attach it to battle spirit
/thread
Why change one thing when you can change 40 things? To get the same way.0 -
JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭JumpmanLane wrote: »Unless you’re running DAMAGE and PEN, you really don’t need to be begging for NERFS.
Nerf BLOCKING? Lmao. Strive to improve...
Maul, spriggans, 51 points in to piercing, 4k weapon damage, 35k stam, minor fracture on POTL, but how about find a build with enough damage to burst down anything sitting on its backbar spamming heals
Well I run Spinner’s and 60 in Spell Erosion Lol. Then again I also run Fossilize hehehe. Point taken.Edited by JumpmanLane on November 10, 2019 12:09AM0 -
birdik✭✭✭Blocking seems to be a persistent problem, regardless of meta and tank builds seem to be the easy thumbless players favourite, however its for the most part sword and board blocking that is the real issue. There shouldn’t be such a high degree of cost reduction and added damage mitigation simply by using the most potato friendly form of damage mitigation. The idea that using a couple of glyphs, adding some armour traits a disgusting amount of CP in to block cost reduction and before you know it you can perm block ON A MAGICA BUILD. This is however what happens when you balance PvP and PvE together.
Im no master of how to balance an MMO but I feel that the blocking either needs a fatigue (like streak and roll dodge) or it needs to have its cost and damage reduction passives added to skills within the weapon line rather than as passives, in order to make it not such an attractive back bar option for so many different builds. Block casting is another huge issue, you cannot spam multiple abilities at once and you cannot use abilities whilst heavy attacking or dodge rolling, so why can you cast abilities whilst holding block? It really is an insane crutch when someone is in execute with no active HOT, holds block and heals like its nothing.
Agree with you buddy, my fav situation when i burst down 90% of player health, he press block and heal heal heal for eternity pressing block until comrades came and defeat me lol.
Using skills in block shoulndt exist atleast in pvp ( or pve plebs begin to cry ) or increase cost of skills in 3+ times
using staff should block 3-4 attack and cost for all stamina, mana classes have their bubbles already0 -
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