Are you still paying for this game?

InaMoonlight · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

Of course I am, have since before you got anything, but knowing you supported a game you wanted to see thrive, now, no craftbag is worse than the monthly lol. And i still believe in the vision of the game i loved as solo pc. being able to be shared, and growing, with surprises, at a speed never formerly done in ANY game, ofc there's gonna be bugs and frankly, i find the entitled brats whining every time something changes a lil amusing... Expecting perfectly, nonproblematic growth, cause ehm, they threw a penny at it. Sorry you've obviously not been there for birthing or growing pains of *ANY* game... Its not a hamburger, things get added, and altered, that tends to happen with evolution

Apropos evolution, ill adapt, do mine to nudge it in a way id find more fun, play and love it... But i think the entitled brat-theme is getting a bit worn.

lagrue · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

I pay because this game becomes literally unplayable to me without having ESO+

The crafting bag is just too damn OP for somebody like me who grabs everything without questions. And as a Grand Master Crafter, I actually need my materials managed properly.

I have every storage coffer and my banker maxed... short from creating mule toons (which I don't want to waste my character slots on.. since I paid for those as well) the only option is to pay.

I don't mind though because I stopped buying the DLCs - but actively run the DLC dungeons. So in a way, in some twisted way, it all works out for me.

I had to take a hiatus after Murkmire because I literally could not afford to renew ESO+ at that point in time, and that drove me away for a bit.

GreenhaloX · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

Better for ESO than wasting my money on cigarettes or drugs!

Surak73 · November 2019

Others. I subscribe from time to time, just to store materials in the crafting bag and to have some crowns for buying dlcs.

LadySinflower · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

I am paying the sub fee and will continue to do so as long as I play. Why? First, it's incredibly difficult to manage inventory without the craft bag. Second, it lets me play the assorted DLCs without buying them outright. I have a lot of fun in this game and the small cost of the subscription is worth it to me.

Also, I'm one of those fools who believes in supporting the companies that produce the games I play beyond just the initial price of the game. I want them to do quality work and they have to have an ongoing revenue stream to pay for the people who do that work. I don't buy crown crates and only buy crowns beyond what I get with my monthly subscription a couple times a year. So the subscription is how I support them.

MyPrist · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

LadySinflower wrote: »

I am paying the sub fee and will continue to do so as long as I play. Why? First, it's incredibly difficult to manage inventory without the craft bag. Second, it lets me play the assorted DLCs without buying them outright. I have a lot of fun in this game and the small cost of the subscription is worth it to me.

Also, I'm one of those fools who believes in supporting the companies that produce the games I play beyond just the initial price of the game. I want them to do quality work and they have to have an ongoing revenue stream to pay for the people who do that work. I don't buy crown crates and only buy crowns beyond what I get with my monthly subscription a couple times a year. So the subscription is how I support them.

You say about, that you support them and believe, that it will help but:
I think the same way untill now.

Bugs+ lags +
My skill do not work 5+ month, yes it is not as big problem, but i even can not get any information when it will be fixed. I am just ignored !!! 5+ month ignore !!!

Skill do not work - and no even simple answer.

They Just take money - do nothing.

You want support this?

Idinuse · November 2019

[No option for me]

I've been paying since 2014.

However, I'm now ambivalent about it. The reasons for this is already presented in numerous threads on this Forum. If I don't see any in my view positive changes soon, I feel it's closing in on the fat lady for me. But I'm hanging in there and still hoping.

The ZOS way of rewarding loyal customers is also really alluring. Oh, wait lol.

Junkriid · November 2019

horizonxael wrote: »

I have paid and I believe I never renew eso plus if it continues with these nerf and bugs I pass to Black Desert Online

Last year, when a lot of italian players like me were unable to launch the game because of the trash launcher issues, I tried black desert and reached about level 58. After 2 months I decided to quit because even if graphics is awesome, combat is awesome, the world, the bosses are awesome.. it's almost impossible to buy a piece of rare gear from the marketplace unless you pay double the price so good luck with that game (I'm not mentioning all the other problems like spending 4/5 hours a day to go from one place to another with the horse because there's no fast travel at all).

As for the poll, I'm one of those that keep complaining about things in eso but keep playing at least a couple hours a day and keep paying dlcs when they're on 50% sale (never bought any crown crate or eso+ and I'll never do it).
After almost 6 years I'm just waiting either things to get fixed, option really far from reality, or a good mmo to come out to just step away from here.

Huyen · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

Simply put: I hate the non-optional DLC dungeons that come with the ESO-plus sub. I as a healer (and sometimes tank) just hate the DLC dungeons. The difficulty with pugs (I dont have a guild) is just to different from the other base-games dungeons.

phileunderx2 · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

I still pay but only on my main PC account. I only pay the subscription.

SmukkeHeks · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

PC EU. Cancelled my sub. I just had to react to the whole *woopsies*. Didn’t buy the Elsweyr, I still have a lot of exploring to do.

I miss my craft bag. Deeply. But don’t know if I’ll re-sub. Somewhere I need to draw a line, as an indignant consumer. I decided..

(Edit for autocorrect..)

BXR_Lonestar · November 2019

I didn't vote because you didn't have an option that described me well. I'm squarely in the column of "paying for the game, but I'm on the fence as to whether I'll continue to pay for it." I love the game. I love the Elder Scrolls universe, and I love the variety of activities this game has in addition to an Elder Scrolls-esque story line for each region. But its getting harder and harder to get people together to run trials, or to get people interested in conquering the game's hardest/most challenging content. We know we can do it as we (my own little group) have already completed many of the more difficult benchmark content in the game, but as they continue to make content that has absolutely ZERO margin for error, and as they continue to make combat changes that just don't make sense (wild pendulum swings for the buff/nerf cycle), it is just getting more and more difficult to get excited about logging in and playing for a few hours every night.

Combine those factors with event burnout from grinding these events too hard, and having performance issue frustration (FPS keep freezing, stalling, or dropping in trials and PVP; getting kicked off server routinely, etc.) and its easy to see why some in my group want to take a break and play other things for a while.

I'll probably never quit the game completely, but if these issues aren't addressed in a meaningful way and if they continue to make a complete mess of the combat system, then I'll just cancel my plus, focus on story line and quests, and once I'm done with those, I'll be back to playing Skyrim or Oblivion.

mimisapje · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

I play on EU and yes the lag, the gameplay bugs and the login issues frustrates me immensely, but I still enjoy the game itself. Half the time i can laugh with some of the bugs, maybe not at that time, but a bit later, sure.
Cancelling my sub won't have any real effect on ZOS, and will only give me more frustrations cause i don't have my craftbag and my dlc's anymore

They are working on their servers and their performance, maybe not as fast as I want, but at least they acknowledge it, and are working on a solution and if the performance issues really are caused by the way the game is designed, then these fixes won't come fast, as they'll have to rewrite tons of code and test it again, before rolling it out.

RefLiberty · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Better for ESO than wasting my money on cigarettes or drugs!

Indeed

Instead of playing ESO when I'm bored (and paying 12.99 Eur monthly), I could end up in pub and spend 150+ eur in one night chugging beer with random drunks.
So if in just one evening I stay home an play, instead of going out, I can even go so far and say that ESO is saving me money. A lot

TheGreatBlackBear · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

The game is unplayable for me without the craft bag.

Bam_Bam · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

I will be here until the servers get shut down. Then I will make ZoS a very generous offer to buy the game and servers and fix the game properly.

And I'm still here because I'm an angry bastage that has an epic love/hate relationship with the game

zyk · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

I used to think it would be impossible to play without the craft bag, but after an initial hump to get over it hasn't been bad at all.

vamp_emily · November 2019

mimisapje wrote: »

I play on EU and yes the lag, the gameplay bugs and the login issues frustrates me immensely, but I still enjoy the game itself. Half the time i can laugh with some of the bugs, maybe not at that time, but a bit later, sure.
Cancelling my sub won't have any real effect on ZOS, and will only give me more frustrations cause i don't have my craftbag and my dlc's anymore

They are working on their servers and their performance, maybe not as fast as I want, but at least they acknowledge it, and are working on a solution and if the performance issues really are caused by the way the game is designed, then these fixes won't come fast, as they'll have to rewrite tons of code and test it again, before rolling it out.

This might be one of the best responses to this topic. Great job!

leeux · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

thesoundofwolf wrote: »

So legit tho, the people who arn't paying/arnt' supporting cus they hate XYZ- what are you doing then with the game? You clearly are on the forums a lot and responding. There are other games, with other forums, and yet here we all are.

I need to keep up with the news somehow... I come to the forums once or twice per day and I don't normally post anyways, this time was different, I felt that there needs to be more voices for the people that aren't pleased with the direction the game is going and, with all the "pruning" they've doing to the forums, it's becoming an echo chamber IMO.

I personally really *really* miss playing the game with my friends, doing trials and hanging around in the guild Discord. I'm still on some of those Discords, so I see them (the few that are still playing, at least) trying to do activities and calling people when they need extra hands.

Thing is, the latest changes drove back my performance as player so badly that I cannot justify even thinking of trying to participate with them... I'd require at least a month or more of "getting up to date" (with the free time budget I currently have) to be able to get back to at least participation level, and all that effort will be again undone by next big patch in a couple of months, so what's the point anyways?

I still have some hopes that at some point, perhaps in a couple of years or maybe less, the game will be fun again... thing is, even after Morrowind debacle, on which I stopped playing too for several months, they finally went back on that and reverted some of the painful issues, and at some point it was at least fun to play the game again.

There are a lot of things wrong with the game from my personal point of view and set biases in playstyle that I have, that simply push me away from it at this moment, but if they change and/or fix them, at least a few of them, I'd probably be back.

Giraffon · November 2019

Pay yes. Sub No. I buy all the content as it comes out and keep a stash of crowns ready for impulse purchases. I have come up with a system that works for me when it comes to inventory management, so not having a crafting bag is not even a thing.

anitajoneb17_ESO · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

I still enjoy the game and it's unplayable (with my playstyle) without the crafting bag and the double bank space.

FinneganFroth · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

Just took a two month hiatus to focus more on RL and work. Coming back now because I missed playing with my guild and because this is one of the few activities I can do where I can really "turn off" my brain and not stress about real world problems.

Wolfpaw · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

& players wonder why performance/release quality overall in eso is what it's...the consumer, why fix?

idk · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

Narvuntien wrote: »

I outright buy the chapters but will not pay for a subscription.

I am concerned about Bethesda's behaviour around Fallout 76 which is eerily similar to ESO models that perhaps I should stop giving ZoS money if they are going to use it on trash like Fallout 76

Zos did not develop Fallout 76 . Different subsidiary and pretty much they have to be able to stand on their own. None are startups. The model for 76 is also very different than ESO.

BTW, if you are buying the DLCs and chapters you are still supporting the game. So your answer pretty much yes.

Wolfpaw · November 2019

I've been paying but will not pay anymore

idk wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I outright buy the chapters but will not pay for a subscription.

I am concerned about Bethesda's behaviour around Fallout 76 which is eerily similar to ESO models that perhaps I should stop giving ZoS money if they are going to use it on trash like Fallout 76

Zos did not develop Fallout 76 . Different subsidiary and pretty much they have to be able to stand on their own. None are startups. The model for 76 is also very different than ESO.

BTW, if you are buying the DLCs and chapters you are still supporting the game. So your answer pretty much yes.

All goes to the same place, Zenimax Media.

I'm sure great people on the BoD like the Trump family, Ripken, Altman, etc...really value the ESO community through quality updates, & performance over the past 5+years.

idk · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

Wolfpaw wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I outright buy the chapters but will not pay for a subscription.

I am concerned about Bethesda's behaviour around Fallout 76 which is eerily similar to ESO models that perhaps I should stop giving ZoS money if they are going to use it on trash like Fallout 76

Zos did not develop Fallout 76 . Different subsidiary and pretty much they have to be able to stand on their own. None are startups. The model for 76 is also very different than ESO.

BTW, if you are buying the DLCs and chapters you are still supporting the game. So your answer pretty much yes.

All goes to the same place, Zenimax Media.

I'm sure great people on the BoD like the Trump family, Ripken, Altman, etc...really value the ESO community through quality updates, & performance over the past 5+years.

Yes it does but that is not very relevant to my comment.

Millz · November 2019

I quit paying for eso + after summerset, that expansion was lame for the money it cost it basically just gave you jewelry crafting for $40. I played until wolfhunter or whatever that dlc was called and just recently came back last patch. Needless to say I wasn't to happy but it honestly wasn't that bad. That being said I swore to never give ZoS another dime after Summerset until I see performance improvements

svartorn · November 2019

I've been paying and will keep paying

Millz wrote: »

I quit paying for eso + after summerset, that expansion was lame for the money it cost it basically just gave you jewelry crafting for $40. I played until wolfhunter or whatever that dlc was called and just recently came back last patch. Needless to say I wasn't to happy but it honestly wasn't that bad. That being said I swore to never give ZoS another dime after Summerset until I see performance improvements

I’ve spent more than $40 on cocktails before.

Jewel crafting for $40 is a bargain by that standard!

Wayshuba · November 2019

BXR_Lonestar wrote: »

I didn't vote because you didn't have an option that described me well. I'm squarely in the column of "paying for the game, but I'm on the fence as to whether I'll continue to pay for it." I love the game. I love the Elder Scrolls universe, and I love the variety of activities this game has in addition to an Elder Scrolls-esque story line for each region. But its getting harder and harder to get people together to run trials, or to get people interested in conquering the game's hardest/most challenging content. We know we can do it as we (my own little group) have already completed many of the more difficult benchmark content in the game, but as they continue to make content that has absolutely ZERO margin for error, and as they continue to make combat changes that just don't make sense (wild pendulum swings for the buff/nerf cycle), it is just getting more and more difficult to get excited about logging in and playing for a few hours every night.

Combine those factors with event burnout from grinding these events too hard, and having performance issue frustration (FPS keep freezing, stalling, or dropping in trials and PVP; getting kicked off server routinely, etc.) and its easy to see why some in my group want to take a break and play other things for a while.

I'll probably never quit the game completely, but if these issues aren't addressed in a meaningful way and if they continue to make a complete mess of the combat system, then I'll just cancel my plus, focus on story line and quests, and once I'm done with those, I'll be back to playing Skyrim or Oblivion.

This is the camp I fall into as well. My three month just renewed two weeks ago. I find myself having a hard time logging in to do anything more than horse upgrades on some alts and kill a boos for event tickets. Then I log out and go on to other games.

Personally, I am giving it until the U25 Patch Notes. If it appears management at ZoS hasn't reigned in this out-of-control combat team, then I will be cancelling and moving on.

As it is, it is hard because so many of my friends have already moved on as they are sick of the massive nerf-buff-nerf cycle. Most were willing to give the team a chance but the U23 massive buffs to DoTs followed by the U24 massive nerf to DoTs had them all lose faith that the combat team has any clue what they are doing. Not to mention that these changes are not the typical 5%-15% here but wild swings of +/- 60%.

I don't have faith that anyone at ZoS is going to reign this team in until the damage is severe and, by then, it is too late. Seen it in too many other MMOs to not realize that the same pattern is repeating here. You would figure MMOs would consider every customer important, but it seems the vanity of the developers always overtakes any form of business sanity.

While I hold out hope, at this point in time I am pretty confident that not only will I be cancelling my sub before the next cycle, but also probably moving on from the game for good.

max_only · November 2019

I’ve stopped paying, but I might be tempted to pay again depending on the future.

My subscription has been canceled but it hasn’t run out yet. And the crowns I have were from a while ago so I’m still coasting on my previous value spent. Wether I re-up or not depends on a LOT of things. Not just Zos, but some real life things too.