Pve templar healer set

  • OolongSnakeTea
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    this thread has been fun to watch, cus everyone is really passionate about healing- and yet, as a healer main- it feels like I am useless in 4man content (even HM vet).

    The only time I get to be a pure healer anymore is vet-trials. Or solo healing a normal trial. Its just really how it is for me anymore.
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  • Rungar
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    Yoku wrote: »
    Rungar wrote: »
    Looks like you need a dmg set. Check out the new ancient Dragonguard set. Got the unique spell dmg buff/armor buff depending on your health.

    why would a healer need a dmg set

    i suppose it depends on what your doing but a spell power boosting ( or crit boosting or mag boosting) set will increase your healing and since you cant spam springs anymore that works out pretty good.

    you might also want to kill something overland or contribute to dps in dungeons.

  • Lady_Linux
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    Iskiab wrote: »
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.

    Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.

    People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.

    Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?

    As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.

    I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD

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    @Lady_Linux

    I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.

    BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.

    I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.

    Well Olorime is good, but a lot of sets aren’t worth the opportunity cost.

    An example is if you’re building to increase each dps’ damage by 10% so they go from 40 to 44k dps each, but you’re losing the opportunity to do 15k more damage yourself then it’s not worth it.

    I think the best dungeon healing sets are probably Olorime and Master Architect, but haven’t tested it. In other games with dungeon groups of say 5 or 6 it can be worth going full support, ESO groups are small so why not do damage too.

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  • AcadianPaladin
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    Lots of interesting ideas in this thread and nice to see that not everyone is happy with the same setup.

    My Healplar loves to solo quest, heal for random strangers (like at WBs/dolmens). For dungeons, she often runs solo but when she groups it is usually with pug. She is also unabashedly selfish in her gear selections. She does want some extra damage and hates slotting a big burst heal (like BoL) because she so very rarely needs it. So her gear selections are a reflection of all that.

    She's very happy with the following gear setup:
    Seducer x5. One of several factors that help her never run out of blue.
    Rattlecage x5. Spell damage boosts heals & dps both so she wants major sorcery all the time. She absolutely refuses to suck potions to get it so that is out. She hasn't the slots for Entropy (which is a poor spell anyway).
    Earthgore x2. This, combined with solid use of Combat Prayer and Illustrious healing for 'burst' lets her avoid slotting BoL or Ritual of Rebirth. That in turns, lets her slot more support.
    Edited by AcadianPaladin on November 3, 2019 10:25PM
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  • Lady_Linux
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    Lots of interesting ideas in this thread and nice to see that not everyone is happy with the same setup.

    My Healplar loves to solo quest, heal for random strangers (like at WBs/dolmens). For dungeons, she often runs solo but when she groups it is usually with pug. She is also unabashedly selfish in her gear selections. She does want some extra damage and hates slotting a big burst heal (like BoL) because she so very rarely needs it. So her gear selections are a reflection of all that.

    She's very happy with the following gear setup:
    Seducer x5. One of several factors that help her never run out of blue.
    Rattlecage x5. Spell damage boosts heals & dps both so she wants major sorcery all the time. She absolutely refuses to suck potions to get it so that is out. She hasn't the slots for Entropy (which is a poor spell anyway).
    Earthgore x2. This, combined with solid use of Combat Prayer and Illustrious healing for 'burst' lets her avoid slotting BoL or Ritual of Rebirth. That in turns, lets her slot more support.

    Seducer is such an underrated set. it really is an unsung hero.
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    BTW, I use arch too
  • OolongSnakeTea
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »

    Seducer is such an underrated set. it really is an unsung hero.

    Another one a lot of folks forget about is also Shalk- that one is super dope, especially on say a DK healer for sustain via ulting or a warden healer (with how cheap trees are).

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  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    r34lian wrote: »
    So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?

    Sanctuary + SPC. Ignore Olorime in PUGs as nobody even notices the circle.
  • Lady_Linux
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    this thread has been fun to watch, cus everyone is really passionate about healing- and yet, as a healer main- it feels like I am useless in 4man content (even HM vet).

    The only time I get to be a pure healer anymore is vet-trials. Or solo healing a normal trial. Its just really how it is for me anymore.

    Yah pretty much.

    Esp with pugs i have noticed that if i dont defend myself and stick to healing only i will be roadkill quickly. Mobs always run past the tank and dd and there i am surrounded going oh well here's my healing staff to drain them while i get pounded. Doesn't really work so well.

    People need to appreciate the content they are doing and be prepared to take care of yourself no matter what role you are assinged. If you heal, better have a plan to do some dps to defend yourself. If you tank, better have some good self heals (esp in vCOS) becuase the healer cant be on both sides of the room at the same time. DPS same thing, have some defenses or self heals for when the healer cant reach you - dont be a glass cannon and then blame the healer or the tank. Esp in pugs. You just dont know what you are going to get.
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    BTW, I use arch too
  • OG_Kaveman
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    r34lian wrote: »
    So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?

    Sanctuary + SPC. Ignore Olorime in PUGs as nobody even notices the circle.

    olos major courage lasts for 30 seconds and the ground aoe has a cool down of 10, meaning you can place a circle under each player separately and have way better uptimes then spc. spc is a dead set. unless you dont have summerset.
  • LordLomax
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    Firstly I would change masters staff to asylum ready for this weeks masters nerf.
    Then if ur doing dungeons kragnacs for ressing , if u can I would get trial gear like infal aether . Or make/purchase Julianous
  • Aznarb
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    LordLomax wrote: »
    Firstly I would change masters staff to asylum ready for this weeks masters nerf.
    Then if ur doing dungeons kragnacs for ressing , if u can I would get trial gear like infal aether . Or make/purchase Julianous

    Aether is a wast now for healer.
    NB and Warden have free access to AoE major vuln now.

    Martial Knowledge (even if I don't like it) or Hollowfang (if your group is not full stam user) are better option to support the group this patch.
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  • FierceSam
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    ayu_fever wrote: »
    my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.

    i get some odd looks from others.

    ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.

    Atm Ebon is a tank set as it is heavy armour and the group benefits still don’t work if you use weapons and jewels

    It would be great if it did actually work as intended.

    And it’s way more inventive to think of/use it as a support set than as a tank one.

    Also a healer does need a big wardrobe. Self-healing/damage dealing solo and easy 4 player content, full on 4 player hard content healing/buffing, and full on trials healing each require vastly different set ups both skills and gearwise.

    My chosen set would be Olorime, Jorvulds and the Master’s resto. Heal and buff-o-rama. Your buff icons look like they are going mental.
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