Lady_Linux wrote: »honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.
Torugs and Seducer
BSW and Mother's Sorrow.
Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer
Mix it up a little.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »
But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??
Problem with crafted set is jewellery my main is maxed out but the jewellery cost is abysmal just like drop rates of burning spellweave might give curse eater a try looks good or go with good ol mother sorrowKags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »
But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??
Actually I did had IA with olorime full set that I decon because I couldn't get into healing with my main mag sorcerer but now after a year I want to give it a go again this time on a templar.Problem with crafted set is jewellery my main is maxed out but the jewellery cost is abysmal just like drop rates of burning spellweave might give curse eater a try looks good or go with good ol mother sorrowKags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.
Lady_Linux wrote: »honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.
Torugs and Seducer
BSW and Mother's Sorrow.
Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer
Mix it up a little.
Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.
People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.
Lady_Linux wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »
But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??
Actually I did had IA with olorime full set that I decon because I couldn't get into healing with my main mag sorcerer but now after a year I want to give it a go again this time on a templar.Problem with crafted set is jewellery my main is maxed out but the jewellery cost is abysmal just like drop rates of burning spellweave might give curse eater a try looks good or go with good ol mother sorrowKags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.
if bsw get armors, if mothers sorrow get weapons and jewls.
Just a few notes:my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.
i get some odd looks from others.
ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.
any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.
so then they ask: what about your sustain?
i am so glad you asked!
i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
change the jewelry trait to arcane.
since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
easy peasy lemon squeezy!
(i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)
then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.
and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
i am so glad you asked!
they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!
tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
but dont worry.
i will handle that!
(what a guy!)
my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.
i get some odd looks from others.
ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.
any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.
so then they ask: what about your sustain?
i am so glad you asked!
i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
change the jewelry trait to arcane.
since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
easy peasy lemon squeezy!
(i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)
then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.
and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
i am so glad you asked!
they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!
tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
but dont worry.
i will handle that!
(what a guy!)
my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.
i get some odd looks from others.
ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.
any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.
so then they ask: what about your sustain?
i am so glad you asked!
i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
change the jewelry trait to arcane.
since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
easy peasy lemon squeezy!
(i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)
then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.
and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
i am so glad you asked!
they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!
tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
but dont worry.
i will handle that!
(what a guy!)
So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?
So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?
Lady_Linux wrote: »honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.
Torugs and Seducer
BSW and Mother's Sorrow.
Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer
Mix it up a little.
Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.
People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.
Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?
As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.
I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD
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@Lady_Linux
I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.
BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.
I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.
Lady_Linux wrote: »honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.
Torugs and Seducer
BSW and Mother's Sorrow.
Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer
Mix it up a little.
Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.
People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.
Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?
As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.
I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD
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@Lady_Linux
I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.
BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.
I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.
Well Olorime is good, but a lot of sets aren’t worth the opportunity cost.
An example is if you’re building to increase each dps’ damage by 10% so they go from 40 to 44k dps each, but you’re losing the opportunity to do 15k more damage yourself then it’s not worth it.
I think the best dungeon healing sets are probably Olorime and Master Architect, but haven’t tested it. In other games with dungeon groups of say 5 or 6 it can be worth going full support, ESO groups are small so why not do damage too.
No love for Naga Shaman?
why would a healer need a dmg set
Lady_Linux wrote: »honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.
Torugs and Seducer
BSW and Mother's Sorrow.
Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer
Mix it up a little.
Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.
People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.
Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?
As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.
I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD
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@Lady_Linux
I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.
BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.
I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.
Well Olorime is good, but a lot of sets aren’t worth the opportunity cost.
An example is if you’re building to increase each dps’ damage by 10% so they go from 40 to 44k dps each, but you’re losing the opportunity to do 15k more damage yourself then it’s not worth it.
I think the best dungeon healing sets are probably Olorime and Master Architect, but haven’t tested it. In other games with dungeon groups of say 5 or 6 it can be worth going full support, ESO groups are small so why not do damage too.