Pve templar healer set

r34lian
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So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?
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  • OolongSnakeTea
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    I mean there are always crafted sets, like magnus.

    your secondary set should basically help support the kind of content you're doing, good idea on the olo- as it buffs the group, and a debuff set is typically a good idea but with invul being easier to get uptimes for- things like IA are less nessisary depending on the groups.

    My go to lately have been:
    -Twilight Remedy with orb + spiders front bar
    -Stendarrs for vHOF
    -Worm Cult / Sanctuary for learning groups
    -Hircines for stam groups

    but in terms of 'easy to find', things like bright throat, crafty alifq, or magnus are good to learn healing with since they provide you with raw selfish stats and sustain.
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    What kind of content are you doing, @r34lian?

    The sweet spot for Queen's Elegance is 4-person Vet dungeons ... where supplementing heals with DPS shortens the completion time.

    As you point out, Elegance is easily purchasable and farmable as a starter set.

    But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on November 2, 2019 7:54PM
  • Iskiab
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    Hum, I’d say Seducer for crafted and mother’s sorrow for overland.

    For pure HPS numbers mother’s sorrow is the best, but ultimately sustain for trials is more important I think.

    I haven’t pve healed in a long time but I started with mother’s sorrow and it’s a good set.
    Edited by Iskiab on November 2, 2019 8:05PM
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  • UntilValhalla13
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    Torugs
  • Lady_Linux
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    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.
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  • hasi
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    There are many variations.

    "Selfish" Sets for Stats/Better Sustain are for example Necropotence(Rivenspire), Alfiq(Elsweyr) or crafted Sets like Seducer(Deshaan). Wouldn't personally go for any of these on Backbar only tbf, besides Seducer. But they are generally okay.

    If you want to bring some high criticial healing and damage in go for Mother's Sorrow(Deshaan).

    For debuffing you could go with Way of Martial Knowledge(Craglorn) or the crafted Set Torug's Pact(Deshaan).


    For later on I would recommend you getting any of these Sets from Group Dungeons/Trials: Worm Cult, Infalliable Aether, Touch of Z'en, Jorvuld or such. Mending and Sanctuary work aswell, but they are a bit overkill IMO.😊
    Edited by hasi on November 2, 2019 10:06PM
  • Iskiab
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.

    Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.

    People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.
    Edited by Iskiab on November 2, 2019 11:49PM
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  • Aznarb
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    On my templar I was used to run Olo-Kagrenac, Kagr is awesome in pug.
    Aether is good to replace Kagrenac in Trial.

    Atm on my NB heal I run Olo-Hollowfang + Symphony and my dps are happy with all the sustain ^^
    (in 4 man I replace Hollow for Master Architect to heavy buff DPS)

    Tbh, Olo is pretty much mandatory but the second set can be anything you love if it work.
    I've play a lot with Bright-throat, very good set too.
    I've one of my healer using Mother's Sorrow.

    Plenty of choice, try many and keep the one you love the most, simple.

    If you run in a meta-score-run it's different and you've to see what your group need.
    But if not, anything worth.
    Edited by Aznarb on November 3, 2019 12:08AM
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  • BRogueNZ
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    Kags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.

    Provides solid sustain and a handy group tool if use barrier to res really fast with along with the class and CP passives that add to benefit that.

    If you want more heal crits maybe Julianos
    (also easy to craft and both this and kags are low on req jewelery trait research)
  • r34lian
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    But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??

    Actually I did had IA with olorime full set that I decon because I couldn't get into healing with my main mag sorcerer but now after a year I want to give it a go again this time on a templar.
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Kags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.
    Problem with crafted set is jewellery my main is maxed out but the jewellery cost is abysmal just like drop rates of burning spellweave might give curse eater a try looks good or go with good ol mother sorrow
    Edited by r34lian on November 3, 2019 5:08AM
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  • Lady_Linux
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    r34lian wrote: »

    But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??

    Actually I did had IA with olorime full set that I decon because I couldn't get into healing with my main mag sorcerer but now after a year I want to give it a go again this time on a templar.
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Kags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.
    Problem with crafted set is jewellery my main is maxed out but the jewellery cost is abysmal just like drop rates of burning spellweave might give curse eater a try looks good or go with good ol mother sorrow

    if bsw get armors, if mothers sorrow get weapons and jewls.
    Edited by Lady_Linux on November 3, 2019 7:32AM
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  • Raisin
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    Technically Torugs would be the best choice. Also crafted though.
  • mocap
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    crafted:
    - TBS (Atro + Ritual, Mage + RItual, Atro + Mage)
    - Seducer
    - Kagrenac
    in that order for me.

    overland:
    - Bright Throat
    - Crafty Alfiq
  • hasi
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.

    Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.

    People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.

    Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?

    As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.

    I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD

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    I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.

    BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.

    I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    r34lian wrote: »

    But if you already have Master Resto and Olorime, you should have an idea of what healer sets are better than Elegance??

    Actually I did had IA with olorime full set that I decon because I couldn't get into healing with my main mag sorcerer but now after a year I want to give it a go again this time on a templar.
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Kags (easy to craft) and curse eater (reasonably cheap) isn't too shabby IMO and you can a suitable monster set.
    Problem with crafted set is jewellery my main is maxed out but the jewellery cost is abysmal just like drop rates of burning spellweave might give curse eater a try looks good or go with good ol mother sorrow

    if bsw get armors, if mothers sorrow get weapons and jewls.

    This.
  • SoLooney
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    Any decent relevant ser you're gonna have to farm dungeons or trials, I suggest you run cloudrest to get olorime
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  • BalmoraRatgirl
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    I have several sets I like to mix up/switch between for my Templar healer - Sanctuary, Mending, Mother's Sorrow, and Julianos are the main ones.
  • ayu_fever
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    my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.

    i get some odd looks from others.

    ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
    my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.

    any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.

    so then they ask: what about your sustain?
    i am so glad you asked!
    i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
    ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
    change the jewelry trait to arcane.
    since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
    only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
    enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
    easy peasy lemon squeezy!

    (i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)

    then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.

    and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
    i am so glad you asked!
    they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!

    tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
    but dont worry.
    i will handle that!

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  • Raisin
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    ayu_fever wrote: »
    my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.

    i get some odd looks from others.

    ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
    my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.

    any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.

    so then they ask: what about your sustain?
    i am so glad you asked!
    i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
    ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
    change the jewelry trait to arcane.
    since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
    only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
    enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
    easy peasy lemon squeezy!

    (i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)

    then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.

    and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
    i am so glad you asked!
    they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!

    tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
    but dont worry.
    i will handle that!

    (what a guy!)
    Just a few notes:

    Tanks ARE support.
    Alkosh, like Aether, are sets that may have been intended for DPS by ZOS but are in actuality considered support sets.
    Ebon as well as Hircine and other support sets are commonly run on healers in trials. Most support sets are interchangable between Healer and Tank -- who wears what is decided by what's most practical.
    Ebon in a dungeon is unnecessary on tank as much as healer in 99.9% of all dungeon situations.
    Your 'not like other healers, I'm so smart for doing something different just because it's different, despite the fact that it's actually something endgame players have been doing for ages' attitude is cringy as ***.... What are you, a 16 year old in a Reddit post? JFC.

    Edit: Also your post has nothing to do with OPs question so you literally just came in here to make yourself look stupid...
    Edited by Raisin on November 3, 2019 1:42PM
  • Yoku
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    ayu_fever wrote: »
    my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.

    i get some odd looks from others.

    ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
    my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.

    any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.

    so then they ask: what about your sustain?
    i am so glad you asked!
    i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
    ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
    change the jewelry trait to arcane.
    since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
    only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
    enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
    easy peasy lemon squeezy!

    (i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)

    then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.

    and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
    i am so glad you asked!
    they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!

    tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
    but dont worry.
    i will handle that!

    (what a guy!)

    why the poop would u wear ebon on tank or healer
    there is absoloutly no point in doing that, especially for dungeons.... depending on the raid group, not even there... its not a good support set for dungeons, this 1k health is not gonna help u
    better u use torug and actually support ur group instead of giving them 1k of useless health
    Edited by Yoku on November 3, 2019 1:48PM
  • Blackleopardex
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    ayu_fever wrote: »
    my main toon is a templar healer, and i use olo and ebon with either rkugamz or symphony.

    i get some odd looks from others.

    ebon is NOT a tank set. it is a support set.
    my job is to support the team with sets and skills that provide the most support possible while keeping everyone alive, buffed, and debuffing the critters.

    any “l33t” that complains their healer is wearing a “tank set” is swiftly corrected by me saying that tanks are using a dps set (alkosh) and yet no one is complaining.

    so then they ask: what about your sustain?
    i am so glad you asked!
    i still use the atronach mundus, tristat enchants on the big pieces and magicka on the small pieces.
    ebon allocation is 3 jewelry and 2 body pieces.
    change the jewelry trait to arcane.
    since the body pieces are both heavy, my monster pieces have to both be light.
    only thing i do different is eat ghastly eye bowl food.
    enough health bonuses comes from ebon. magicka and mag regen bonuses come from ghastly eye bowl.
    easy peasy lemon squeezy!

    (i love watching alcast worshippers heads explode because i am using something he isnt giving them permission to use)

    then those punks who thought they were “l33t” see the error of their flawed opinions and we carry on with no issues.

    and yet they ask: “why not let the tanks run ebon?”
    i am so glad you asked!
    they have enough to choose from and me using ebon opens up a set for them to use!

    tanks have yolnahkriin, alkosh, akaviri dragonguard, torugs and some other niche choices which leaves no room for ebon.
    but dont worry.
    i will handle that!

    (what a guy!)

    Ehm...? Ebon on a healer is not unheard of at all, it's a possible setup when it's "needed" for specific group setups in some trails(rather rare, but heard of).

    In 4 man content we don't run ebon on anyone, because it's just simply not needed, there are better sets.

    What a guy indeed...
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  • Yoku
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    r34lian wrote: »
    So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?

    just run olo on destro bar, if u dont wanna farm aether/hircine/worm, craft torug wich u wanna wear on the body... if you are a new player and have alot sustian issues, craft seducer. healingstaff either master, asylum or in rare cases, if u should need it, blackrose
    monsterset symphony of blades
    have a great day!!^^ hope i could help :)
  • Rungar
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    Looks like you need a dmg set. Check out the new ancient Dragonguard set. Got the unique spell dmg buff/armor buff depending on your health.





  • Yoku
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    Rungar wrote: »
    Looks like you need a dmg set. Check out the new ancient Dragonguard set. Got the unique spell dmg buff/armor buff depending on your health.





    why would a healer need a dmg set
  • Blackleopardex
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    r34lian wrote: »
    So what will be best purchaseable healer set from guild stores for templar healer? Using olorime in body with master resto staff thinking of going with elegant set back bar what would be best alternative and yeah easy to get as well?

    With, dare I say most, tanks running Yolnakriin/Alkosh, I would say buy Troug's from a crafter, use crusher enchant on a infused lightning staff with blockade to proc it. That will give you a slightly stronger crusher debuff with a secure uptime. This is something that tanks used earlier but can now be moved on to the healer, specially considering Wardens can apply minor vulnerability, as well as Nightblades, even in AOE(doing it on my NB-tank myself). There is almost no need for the now "fixed" Aether set that needs a fully charged heavy attack to apply minor vulnerability...
    Edited by Blackleopardex on November 3, 2019 2:08PM
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  • Iskiab
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    hasi wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.

    Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.

    People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.

    Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?

    As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.

    I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD

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    @Lady_Linux

    I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.

    BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.

    I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.

    Well Olorime is good, but a lot of sets aren’t worth the opportunity cost.

    An example is if you’re building to increase each dps’ damage by 10% so they go from 40 to 44k dps each, but you’re losing the opportunity to do 15k more damage yourself then it’s not worth it.

    I think the best dungeon healing sets are probably Olorime and Master Architect, but haven’t tested it. In other games with dungeon groups of say 5 or 6 it can be worth going full support, ESO groups are small so why not do damage too.
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  • Yoku
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    hasi wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.

    Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.

    People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.

    Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?

    As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.

    I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD

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    @Lady_Linux

    I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.

    BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.

    I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.

    Well Olorime is good, but a lot of sets aren’t worth the opportunity cost.

    An example is if you’re building to increase each dps’ damage by 10% so they go from 40 to 44k dps each, but you’re losing the opportunity to do 15k more damage yourself then it’s not worth it.

    I think the best dungeon healing sets are probably Olorime and Master Architect, but haven’t tested it. In other games with dungeon groups of say 5 or 6 it can be worth going full support, ESO groups are small so why not do damage too.

    thats only really good on NB healer with restheal ult spam

    torug is the way to go
    Edited by Yoku on November 3, 2019 2:11PM
  • OG_Kaveman
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    Kel wrote: »
    No love for Naga Shaman?

    Templars have minor mending in their toolkit, easy access too, so this set would be a huge waste. I believe this set is a huge waste regardless, as healers habit is cheap and has better 2-4 pieces for a healer.

    Yoku wrote: »

    why would a healer need a dmg set


    Most damage sets buff heals too. Like flat bonuses, looking at mothers sorrow/julianos. I believe bsw would be a huge waste though, you are not going to have a good enough uptime to have it beat out the aforementioned sets.


    The best bet is to get an olo lightning staff and run that on your back bar, with wall or shards to proc it and then have a damage set on the rest of your body, like julianos or kagranacs hope.
    Edited by OG_Kaveman on November 3, 2019 2:29PM
  • Aznarb
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    hasi wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    honestly, why not use a healing set and a dps set. Really do both... esp if you solo and group play. If you're not doing trials, use one of each.

    Torugs and Seducer

    BSW and Mother's Sorrow.

    Jorvulds and Icy Conjurer

    Mix it up a little.

    Yea I agree. A lot of healers just pure heal or wear sets designed to buff 8 dps when there are only two. That’s why a lot of groups go tank and 3 dps.

    People call them selfish sets, but really they’re efficient sets.

    Which Sets are designed to buff 8DPS?

    As far as I know pretty much any Healer Set used in Trial Situations is useable in Dungeons aswell.

    I agree, that certain Sets like Worm, Mending, Sanctuary are overkill in Dungeons. Worm because you never know which kind of DPS you get stuck with(Mag/Stam), Sanctuary's Heal Buff isn't needed with the low Damage taken in Dungeons. And Mending.. Just no. xD

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    @Lady_Linux

    I think the general Idea of yours is good. The examples given are certainly mostly not viable for Healers. A good Healer has to buff and debuff, so throwing one of the best Sources of Major Courage(Olorime/SPC Buff) away is not a good idea.

    BSW and MS is a full Dps Setup and as a Healer you would have to use a Flame Staff Backbar instead of a Lightning Staff to even proc BSW. This means that you lose another important Buff: Off Balance.

    I could say more, but to make it short. With these Setups you may increase your own DPS a bit, considering you are healing and debuffing as much as possible all the while aswell. But by choosing to use no Olorime in any of these Ideas and partly even going for a Set, that requires Flame Damage to procc, you decrease the DDs and partly even your own DPS. Which isn't the point.

    Well Olorime is good, but a lot of sets aren’t worth the opportunity cost.

    An example is if you’re building to increase each dps’ damage by 10% so they go from 40 to 44k dps each, but you’re losing the opportunity to do 15k more damage yourself then it’s not worth it.

    I think the best dungeon healing sets are probably Olorime and Master Architect, but haven’t tested it. In other games with dungeon groups of say 5 or 6 it can be worth going full support, ESO groups are small so why not do damage too.

    MA + OLO user here on my NB healer, it's amazing on 4 man.
    It help a lot to buff dps player.
    Can be useless if you play with Lokk user though.
    But in general it's a great set but you need a very fast loading ult and that why I put it on NB, Soul Harvest is amazing for that.

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