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Should Dragonknight Standard be buffed/changed?

TheGreatBlackBear
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So I rolled a stam dk for pve and it's pretty fun and is performing well in vet dlc content. My only issue with the spec is the fact that I have to use Standard of Might. Firstly, I have a serious problem with dealing flame damage for my ultimate as a stamina toon. It means that it doesn't get buffed by certain CP stars and is affected by spell penetration of which of course I am lacking. Secondly SoM feels meh. It's basically a destro ulti with a synergy. And a very weak synergy at that. The damage dealt buff is admittedly quite nice but not when you consider the fact that that you have to level up the base skill to 4 then invest a further skill point to get it. By contrast Necro colossus has that damage taken modifier (for everyone) in the group from base.

How I'd like to see it changed: make the damage dealt buff and damage received buff available on the base skill (that's a no-brainer). Then for the morph perhaps you can Mag dks use Shifting Standard which would have the benefits of the current SoM and also all them to reposition it which admittedly isn't a great perk but it'd probably fit in better to a ranged playstyle as fights where you'd want ranged dps generally have a lot of movement and reorientation, ( VAS+2 VCR+3). For stam dk I'd like to see perhaps a standard that deals physical/poison damage or perhaps the standard could retain its flame damage but give the entire group the increase to damage dealt/reduction to damage taken.

What are your thoughts?
  • sedi
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    Wish the area was bigger
  • Fur_like_snow
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    No, we have to nerf leap and corrosive first that way players are incentivize to use standard.
  • SipofMaim
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    Mag DKs aren't ranged dps. You want a change, YOU take the crappy morph.
    Edited by SipofMaim on October 28, 2019 5:01PM
  • TheGreatBlackBear
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    @SipofMaim what an odd statement. Just use ele weapon in ranged situations. That's like saying that Templars are not ranged dps because they have jabs. And furthermore as I said Shifting Standard would inherit the current functionality of SoM so it would be the same ulti you're using on on live but with the ability to move the standard if the boss moves. It'd be a buff to SS users and former SoM users would see no change at worst but a buff at best. How is that a crappy morph?
  • Aznarb
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    sedi wrote: »
    Wish the area was bigger

    The radius is as big as destro ult you know.
    It's currently one of the best ult in the game.
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  • Nevaee
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    Everything was nerfed some days ago with the last patch. Why should they buff it again?

    I wish I could nerf ESO+
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  • caperon
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    You younglings don't remember the good old times, when was 20% dmg increase and dmg reduction, when the defile was unnamed 50% debuf and your ult generation was dynamic. Standard is still decent in pve but its a shadow of the former glory of what it was. All about DK is a shadow of the former glory since 1.6 changes.
  • SipofMaim
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    @SipofMaim what an odd statement. Just use ele weapon in ranged situations. That's like saying that Templars are not ranged dps because they have jabs. And furthermore as I said Shifting Standard would inherit the current functionality of SoM so it would be the same ulti you're using on on live but with the ability to move the standard if the boss moves. It'd be a buff to SS users and former SoM users would see no change at worst but a buff at best. How is that a crappy morph?

    Then you should be happy to have it. Just use a bow in ranged situations.
  • SipofMaim
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    caperon wrote: »
    You younglings don't remember the good old times, when was 20% dmg increase and dmg reduction, when the defile was unnamed 50% debuf and your ult generation was dynamic. Standard is still decent in pve but its a shadow of the former glory of what it was. All about DK is a shadow of the former glory since 1.6 changes.

    All of the old classes are like that. All our power's in percentage stat buffs in the CP system and in gear sets, now.
  • AndyMac
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    Bring back 1.5 Standard for sure😈
    Edited by AndyMac on October 28, 2019 9:19PM
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  • Vlad9425
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    Its great as a PVE Ultimate but in PVP Leap and Corrosive are just way more useful.
  • mcagatayg
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    DK ultimates are all great imo. You got a great 1 for pve, great 1 for tanking and great 1 for pvp.
  • Banana
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    They could change shifting standard to be similar to might but deal poison would be nice for the stamdks
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