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we suffered through scalebreaker for this?

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Last patch was in my opinion the worst overall patch since I've started playing ESO (clockwork city was when I got into the game)… Everyone that tested on the Pts told them dots are to strong this dumb why is entropy have a 40k tool tip blah blah blah… They pushed it out anyway... Then this patch they destroy all dots nerf them into the ground there isn't a weapon skill dot worth slotting in pvp rending slash with master duel wield does about 1100 a tic on a player... They don't adjust healing to go with the dot reduction they don't adjust shields to go with the dot reduction and the overall damage loss of all the nerfed dots and damage skills and cost increases they implemented with this patch.... The "performance" road map they have started have yielded no results the game is still unplayable for most of the day, and that's with the pitiful population in pvp… We are back to Elswry tank heal bot meta everyone running around with 50k hp and a resto staff stacking rapid regen that's been buffed to the moon because last patch everyone had access to the insane dots...My real question is what have you accomplished with the last two patches or the Elswry chapter as a whole Zenimax? It was the most hyped chapter is the history of the game DRAGONS in eso, but what have you improved on? Do you think as a combat team and company as a whole your doing a good job? Do you think people are going to continue to play a game that 1 is no longer fun because you have nerfed every playstyle besides being a tank a mag plar, or a pet sorc into the ground and 2 the game doesn't work.. I think the community has a right to know since we are the ones that spend are hard earned money on this game what you plan to do about the mess you as a company have made. We deserve better than this.. We deserve better than empty promises of performance fixes that never come and constant sweeping nerfs of everything without explanation.. Its time to be transparent if you have given up on the game and you are just gonna squeeze every last cent you can out of it without putting anything back into then say so. You'll still have the Elder Scrolls Rpers and the housing people to line your pockets with they aren't going anywhere...
  • Nemesis7884
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    The wall of doom instills fear in even the most adventurous reader...
  • SidraWillowsky
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    The wall of doom instills fear in even the most adventurous reader...

    It's rare that I actually laugh out loud when reading forum posts, but this did it.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    The wall of doom instills fear in even the most adventurous reader...

    I totally bailed.
  • Goregrinder
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    I actually didn't read it, it looks like one giant word made up of smaller pixels. I hope it was something informative, but I guess I will never know.
  • Darkenarlol
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    we suffered through scalebreaker for...a text brick in the eyes :s
  • xylena_lazarow
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    With DoTs and Defiles pretty much deleted from the game, the "hold block and heal" SnB PvP meta is worse than ever.

    I sympathize with the wall of text. It's simply not fun.
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  • BigBragg
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  • martinhpb16_ESO
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    I actually agree with everything the OP said. They make some valid points.

    The inevitable forum style-guide cynics were bound to jump on it though.
    ..My real question is what have you accomplished with the last two patches or the Elswry chapter as a whole Zenimax? It was the most hyped chapter is the history of the game DRAGONS in eso, but what have you improved on? ............Do you think people are going to continue to play a game that 1 is no longer fun because you have nerfed every playstyle besides being a tank a mag plar, or a pet sorc into the ground and 2 the game doesn't work..

    ^ This
    At least the spelling is difficult for you.
    Hew's Bane*
  • mongoLC
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    The combat team seems to be balancing sustain which is *** on false god and being a Breton least that's the only way I can seem to play a mag character in pve right now. I notice my stam characters don't have as bad of a problem with sustain and I can still do very good dps with pretty much any reasonable stam set. This patch is a joke and zo$ needs to hold someone accountable for this mess!
    Edited by mongoLC on October 24, 2019 10:18PM
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    whoa!

    this was a tougher battle than khalgrantid
  • WreckfulAbandon
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    Definitely some valid points but the formatting is going to prevent some from reading it.

    I'd be angry too if all I had was a lousy English degree.
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    All my comments are regarding PvP
  • SirAndy
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    Paragraphs save posts ...

    bye1.gif


  • SidraWillowsky
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    "Last patch was, in my opinion, the worst overall patch since I've started playing ESO (clockwork city was when I got into the game)… Everyone that tested on the Pts told them dots are too strong, this is dumb, why does entropy have a 40k tool tip blah blah blah… They pushed it out anyway... Then this patch they destroy all dots by nerfing them into the ground. There isn't a weapon skill dot worth slotting in pvp- rending slashes with the master's dual wield does about 1100 a tic on a player...

    They don't adjust healing to go with the dot reduction, they don't adjust shields to go with the dot reduction, and the overall damage loss of all the nerfed dots and damage skills and cost increases they implemented with this patch.... The "performance" road map they have started have yielded no results. The game is still unplayable for most of the day, and that's with the pitiful population in pvp… We are back to Elswry tank heal bot meta with everyone running around with 50k hp and a resto staff stacking rapid regen that's been buffed to the moon because last patch everyone had access to the insane dots...

    My real question is what have you accomplished with the last two patches or the Elswry chapter as a whole Zenimax? It was the most hyped chapter is the history of the game- DRAGONS in eso, but what have you improved on? Do you think as a combat team and company as a whole you're doing a good job? Do you think people are going to continue to play a game that 1) is no longer fun because you have nerfed every playstyle besides being a tank, a magplar, or a pet sorc into the ground, and 2) the game doesn't work.

    I think the community has a right to know since we are the ones that spend our hard-earned money on this game. What do you plan to do about the mess you as a company have made? We deserve better than this.. We deserve better than empty promises of performance fixes that never come and constant sweeping nerfs of everything without explanation. It's time to be transparent if you have given up on the game and you are just gonna squeeze every last cent you can out of it without putting anything back into it then say so. You'll still have the Elder Scrolls Rpers and the housing people to line your pockets with. They aren't going anywhere..."
  • CambionDaemon
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    Valid points, but let's be honest the only reason they introduced Dragons was to cash in on the Game of Thrones phenomenon.

    And thanks for the edited version.
  • russelmmendoza
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    Last patch was in my opinion the worst overall patch since I've started playing ESO (clockwork city was when I got into the game)… Everyone that tested on the Pts told them dots are to strong this dumb why is entropy have a 40k tool tip blah blah blah… They pushed it out anyway... Then this patch they destroy all dots nerf them into the ground there isn't a weapon skill dot worth slotting in pvp rending slash with master duel wield does about 1100 a tic on a player... They don't adjust healing to go with the dot reduction they don't adjust shields to go with the dot reduction and the overall damage loss of all the nerfed dots and damage skills and cost increases they implemented with this patch.... The "performance" road map they have started have yielded no results the game is still unplayable for most of the day, and that's with the pitiful population in pvp… We are back to Elswry tank heal bot meta everyone running around with 50k hp and a resto staff stacking rapid regen that's been buffed to the moon because last patch everyone had access to the insane dots...My real question is what have you accomplished with the last two patches or the Elswry chapter as a whole Zenimax? It was the most hyped chapter is the history of the game DRAGONS in eso, but what have you improved on? Do you think as a combat team and company as a whole your doing a good job? Do you think people are going to continue to play a game that 1 is no longer fun because you have nerfed every playstyle besides being a tank a mag plar, or a pet sorc into the ground and 2 the game doesn't work.. I think the community has a right to know since we are the ones that spend are hard earned money on this game what you plan to do about the mess you as a company have made. We deserve better than this.. We deserve better than empty promises of performance fixes that never come and constant sweeping nerfs of everything without explanation.. Its time to be transparent if you have given up on the game and you are just gonna squeeze every last cent you can out of it without putting anything back into then say so. You'll still have the Elder Scrolls Rpers and the housing people to line your pockets with they aren't going anywhere...

    I totally agree to the wall of wisdom text.

    Zos nerfed dot and sustain, they didnt touch healing.

    In bg matches, tank heal meta dominates.

    If a team have a healer, premade team always have a healer, they dominate bg.

    Our group of pugs cant even get to 100 pts in bg while premades with healer mow us down like grass, best bg games ever.

    TYVM ZOS.

    I JUST CANT WAIT FOR YOUR NEW IDEAS.
  • Grandma
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    The wall of doom instills fear in even the most adventurous reader...

    I totally bailed.

    I jumped overboard about 4 words in.
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  • Stebarnz
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    Ill summarise it for you all, it says - I did not pay attention in English and I don't know how to present my thoughts in text format.

    J/k it really says - Didn't like dot meta, don't like tank meta, ZOS are bad, they want better.
  • xylena_lazarow
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    Zos nerfed dot and sustain, they didnt touch healing.

    It's actually even worse because they only nerfed sustain in terms of dealing damage. Defensive sustain was untouched, so you can block and heal forever, but you'll run out of resources trying to burst through that crap.
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  • WrathOfInnos
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    Zos nerfed dot and sustain, they didnt touch healing.

    It's actually even worse because they only nerfed sustain in terms of dealing damage. Defensive sustain was untouched, so you can block and heal forever, but you'll run out of resources trying to burst through that crap.

    Easy now, let’s not turn this into a “nerf healer sustain” thread. Healing in general has been much weaker since Springs was made unstackable.

    But yes, DoTs are far too weak this patch, and damage sustain is awful.
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    Easy now, let’s not turn this into a “nerf healer sustain” thread. Healing in general has been much weaker since Springs was made unstackable.

    Any changes to tanking or healing should be done through the PvP Battle Spirit modifier, so they only impact PvP, as these issues are separate from PvE. Group healing in PvP is grossly overtuned, with far too few tradeoffs in terms of sustain or personal survivability.
    PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP metas
  • Muzzick
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    I actually didn't read it, it looks like one giant word made up of smaller pixels. I hope it was something informative, but I guess I will never know.

    I tried pasting in Google translate but it didn't recognize the language
  • Casterial
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    A lot of my friends are quitting. The time to kill is already bad, and now tanks are back. Rapid Regen with a heavy resto attack is like a 25-30k tooltip it's insane.

    I think this patch is worse than U23, U22 was the best for Elswyer.

    I think for PVP 1.5, 1.6, IC, worthgar were the best.
    Edited by Casterial on October 25, 2019 1:21AM
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  • Casterial
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    Valid points, but let's be honest the only reason they introduced Dragons was to cash in on the Game of Thrones phenomenon.

    And thanks for the edited version.

    Was to get "Skyrim Online" to be real, let's be honest.
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  • ccfeeling
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    I saw some players hit over 94k again on LIVE , woot , I think next nerf is coming , maybe next DLC :p
  • CambionDaemon
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Valid points, but let's be honest the only reason they introduced Dragons was to cash in on the Game of Thrones phenomenon.

    And thanks for the edited version.

    Was to get "Skyrim Online" to be real, let's be honest.

    No, thats next year!
  • Canned_Apples
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    they rarely listen...........................................rarely. @ZOS_BrianWheeler and that other dude will push any change that they want through regardless of how many experienced players tell them how broken xyz is.
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    Grandma wrote: »
    The wall of doom instills fear in even the most adventurous reader...

    I totally bailed.

    I jumped overboard about 4 words in.

    i dont even know how to read
  • Hapexamendios
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    We suffer through pretty much every patch. Why should this one be any different?
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    Since they had unveiled their new combat paradigm, they rather ride tsunami-sized waves and drown us with these drastic changes instead of doing this in careful increments. Which may had resulted in minimal consequences.

    I like the patch somewhat because it's far more tolerable to survive with my medium armor, although by reducing the overall effectiveness of the dots and sustain, it unintentionally made it a hell of a lot easier to play a tank spec in this patch. We are now going to have waves of tanks battling each other that results in a draw? How boring.

    All of our positive expectations should generally be left at the door with the balance team we have right now. Negatives expectations? By all means! When was the last time we had a revolutionary patch that satisfied every cornerstone of the pvp/pve playerbase? I can't think of any lol.
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  • ruengdet2515
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    The "performance" is login issue every night after dragonhold patch.

    What about tonight still have same issue everyday again?
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