rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Usually during PTS periods, there are parses everywhere. Forums, Reddit, all sorts of Discords.

Pretty telling that they're nowhere to be found outside of the occasional one in TRE these days.

Almost like the people who used to do all that parsing either moved on or can't be bothered to test the trash ZOS delivered this patch.

I agree with you, either ppl moved on or are so burnt out from insane changes every week they decided to not test anymore.

Yet i gotta decide what to do with my main, maybe go back to the hard path of sorc tanking, oof

Well you'll be happy to know that stamsorc looks solid this patch ... relatively speaking. The highest parse I think I've seen was just under 93k, so just a bit behind the best stamnecro parses I've seen. Of course that's still like a 10-15k DPS loss from Live, but much better than most.

2H seems preferable to DW as well on stamsorcs. Reverse Slice/Executioner is much easier to sustain than Whirling Blades, and Wrecking Blow is just a better spammable than Rapid Strikes right now (because of Empower and because it allows you to focus CP in Master-at-Arms).

Setup is generally 5 x Rele, 5 x Lokke, 2 x Maw of the Infernal/Maarselok or 1 x Kra'gh / 1 x Slimecraw/Grundwulf.

2H: Wrecking Bro, Barbed Trap, Executioner, Clannfear, Bound Armaments. Dawnbreaker.
Bow: Endless Hail, Poison Injection, Hurricane, Clannfear, Bound Armaments. Storm Atro.

I've also hit some solid parses (85k+) with bow/bow setups, using a variety of configurations.

Elwendryll wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

I've also hit some solid parses (85k+) with bow/bow setups, using a variety of configurations.

May I ask for further hints? I've really been struggling with bow.

Either vMA bow backbar + BRP bow frontbar or BRP bow backbar + Asylum bow frontbar.

I would assume you could probably get similar results with vMA + Master bow, or with vMA/Master backbar and then a 5-piece bow frontbar using a monster set (probably Maw of the Infernal, 2 1-piece monster sets).

The BRP/vAS bow setup is really interesting, although I'm not sure how practical it really is. The rotation is painful because both bows are a bit limited ... you can't swap off the triggering ability or it doesn't register the bonus.

The setup I've had the best luck with is ...

5 x Rele (body), 5 x Lokke (jewels + head/shoulders), BRP bow backbar (Infused), vAS bow frontbar (sharpened)

Front: Lethal Arrow, Acid Spray, Channeled Acceleration, Clannfear, Bound Armaments. Dawnbreaker.
Back: Endless Hail, Magnum Shot, Consuming Trap, Clannfear, Bound Armaments. Storm Atro.

Rotation is something like ...

0. Hail, Magnum Shot, Consuming Trap, swap

1. Bound Armaments, Acid Spray, Snipe x 4, Acid Spray, Bound Armaments, swap

2. Magnum Shot, Consuming Trap, Hail, swap

Repeat from 1.

More or less. It's a little tricky. Probably not a practical setup for a number of reasons but it's interesting. Done correctly and with good crits on Magnum Shot, you can get ~10k DPS out of Virulent Shot, making it probably the strongest DoT in the game. And, depending on exactly how you set it up and how the parse plays out, you can get Snipe to hit for ~120k, which is about as hard as Executioner/Killer's Blade hit.

satanio wrote: »

Finally, Maw is accepted as top stam set. It took 2 patches, but better sooner than later.
Enjoy.

Tanks will love it

Elwendryll wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Elwendryll wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

I've also hit some solid parses (85k+) with bow/bow setups, using a variety of configurations.

May I ask for further hints? I've really been struggling with bow.

Either vMA bow backbar + BRP bow frontbar or BRP bow backbar + Asylum bow frontbar.

I would assume you could probably get similar results with vMA + Master bow, or with vMA/Master backbar and then a 5-piece bow frontbar using a monster set (probably Maw of the Infernal, 2 1-piece monster sets).

The BRP/vAS bow setup is really interesting, although I'm not sure how practical it really is. The rotation is painful because both bows are a bit limited ... you can't swap off the triggering ability or it doesn't register the bonus.

The setup I've had the best luck with is ...

5 x Rele (body), 5 x Lokke (jewels + head/shoulders), BRP bow backbar (Infused), vAS bow frontbar (sharpened)

Front: Lethal Arrow, Acid Spray, Channeled Acceleration, Clannfear, Bound Armaments. Dawnbreaker.
Back: Endless Hail, Magnum Shot, Consuming Trap, Clannfear, Bound Armaments. Storm Atro.

Rotation is something like ...

0. Hail, Magnum Shot, Consuming Trap, swap

1. Bound Armaments, Acid Spray, Snipe x 4, Acid Spray, Bound Armaments, swap

2. Magnum Shot, Consuming Trap, Hail, swap

Repeat from 1.

More or less. It's a little tricky. Probably not a practical setup for a number of reasons but it's interesting. Done correctly and with good crits on Magnum Shot, you can get ~10k DPS out of Virulent Shot, making it probably the strongest DoT in the game. And, depending on exactly how you set it up and how the parse plays out, you can get Snipe to hit for ~120k, which is about as hard as Executioner/Killer's Blade hit.

Ok, I tried the AS/BRP combo on week 1 of PTS, I was hunting for DoTs based on direct damage, and I could get 7k dps from Virulent shot, it was looking like the best DoT, but...

1) The rotation needs to be executed at a specific and precise distance. It's better now that they reduced the distance limitation of BRP bow, but still. Being in melee changes the duration of the DoT.

2) The application itself is clunky, you have to wait for what feels forever for the DoT to apply. I messed up a few times.

I tried almost the same setup (Except I used the physical morph of snipe, trap wasn't worth running and bound armaments did less damage than a snipe...) on week one, and had disappointing results. I guess I could practice more, but it felt at the time that it was going to be very limited in actual combat situation because of this DoT duration change depending on distance.

Thanks for your answer. I'll just put more time into practicing, it looks like it's the limiting factor.

@Elwendryll

The reason Bound Armaments and Consuming Trap are used in the rotation is in part because of your point #2. I set up the rotation so that I always had something else to cast after Magnum Shot/Acid Spray but before swapping (and it can't be Snipe or Poison Injection on the vAS bow bar because those consume the buff).

They're also there for sustain. Bound Armaments may not hit as hard as Snipe but it still does a ton of damage, it's much cheaper, and it's instant cast. Consuming Trap isn't great either but I needed something to cast there and it uses the off resource pool. I tried running Poison Injection backbar instead, and while the damage was better, I couldn't sustain it.