Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Buuuuurning Kick!





but on a serious note - a martial arts / monk themed skill line with some cool animations would be neat

[Minor edit to title for click bait.]

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Nemesis7884 wrote: »

monk class?

...is not a thing, nor can it be - because the things that -would- make this what most people consider it to be are not class skills, but weapon and armor skills - namely, a "unarmed" and an "unarmored" skill line!
Which they could totally make!
Now, realistically mere "martial arts" should not realyl be competetive against armored enemies and proper weapons... but magically enhanced martial arts (aka, a melee magica skill line) could be!
Like: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii/p1

And a "unarmored" skill line that favors evasion... might also be a possibility!

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Wouldn't it be too soon to add a new class again already?

It would be too soon for that... ever!
Because "new classes" are evil! EVIL I say!
Sure, they might seem a good idea to new players who just started their first alt, but they would be a great vexation to all old hands who have been playing since launch, both for the aggrivation of "What, now I have to make yet -another- alt to enjoy the new classyness" and the deep feeling of betrayal and dissapointment due to "Why the [censored] is that [censored] class only [censored] available now, it [censored] would have made so [censored] much more [censored] sense for tha [censored] main of mine. [censored]! [censored]! [censored]!" when seeing a class that would have made so much more sense for a character that has been played, riding training and researched for years...
No. New. Classes.

Instead... I would really prefer to see them "refit" new classyness in a way that -everyone- can take, be it a newly created character or one played since launch... maybe like some sort of specialization system:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/492733/class-specialization-idea/p1

Better to make it a weapon skill line rather than a class.

Bpryr_125 wrote: »

Now, realistically mere "martial arts" should not realyl be competetive against armored enemies and proper weapons... but magically enhanced martial arts (aka, a melee magica skill line) could be!
Like: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii/p1

And a "unarmored" skill line that favors evasion... might also be a possibility!

wow... the history of Martial Arts frowns upon your comment. Gun powder is what Ended such. Not Heavy armor. In martial arts there is always a point of attack. Especially with farmers who used farm equipment to defend themselves...

...you mean, picked up a (somewehat improvised) -weapon- when fighting was imminent???

Because basically, that is what I am saying, that while martial arts can do a lot of things, when it comes to sheer -damage-, well... a martial artists fist may be much more of a lethal weapon then the average couch potatos flabby jab, but it certainly isn't up to the same trained warriors strength driving home their point with a nice piece of metal to tear and cut into their opponents to let out the red stuff, right? Especially if your martial arts fist is up against metal armor, don't you think?
...and that is why in the ideas mentioned in that link, I had all the "brawling" stuff do lower damage then the actual weapons, yet have more CC fun added to their skills.
Mostly because that IS how historic martial arts dealt with armored opponents - not try and punch through plate mail (or other armor that usually included a well padded gambeson underneath to cushion blows), that is the way of the broken fist... but to simply push, kick or -wrestle- the armored enemies to the ground and then hold a blade to their eyeslits and politely ask them if they prefer to surrender and maaaaybe be ransomed, or if they would rather like to be just a piece of canned meat... naturally it depends on circumstances, where the battle happened, who the sides were, and how hated an enemy we are talking about - while in the european middle ages a captured noble could get a neat ransom and thus bring great fortune to a commoner or mercenary capturing them, in many other corners of the world no such tradition existed and it was kill or be killed... and even the ransomable noble might often end up killed if they have been jerks in their conquesting ways before their capture...

Reminds me of an martial arts movie I once saw, ages ago... classic "rival schools conflict" setting, where a twist was that after good school students beat up evil school students, the evil students came back with swords... and the fight ended quite differently (to set up the final showdown between the hero and the villain of course).
And traditionally... all those empty handed martial arts were the -backup- for warriors, NOT the first choice! Simply because weapons were so much -better- when you wanted to actually kill people!

BtW, gun powder ended nothing. We have had it in wars for centuries, and any soldiers -still- train in hand-to-hand, and use it too on some occasions! Yeah, martial arts isn't so great against ranged weapons, be they guns or bows... and guns have beaten bows for centuries thanks to technical advancement... but there are always situations where range is not a consideration, wnd armies like to have their damage-dealers trained up for that eventuality too. Not to mention a great many others who keep martial arts alive and use it from cops to club bouncers to criminals... all despite living in a world of gunpowder, yes?

BtW, I totally would love to have "weapon inactive" areas (barroom bawls?) in ESO, where those who DO spend some skill points on a hypothetical brawling skill line might have the advantage... just sayin...