This was called on day one of the PTS cycle. When you crunch the numbers you can see that the other sets that give flat stats all adhere to a rule, except Endurance. Perhaps we are going to see an increase in the Health Recovery from 2-4pc bonuses at some point (maybe ~380).

I honestly thought it was a typo when I saw it.

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

No one is going to use the set anyways.

Endurence is the same as Troll King why would u not use it??

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

you give up a 5 piece. TK you dont.

If there were any offensive Stam Monster Sets worth equipping, I'd probably be transmuting some Endurance jewels right now ahead of time.

However for the few brawlers that are running a 3 piece, this one clearly outlclasses the rest by a wide margin.

It would be great if Beekeeper got a buff, it needs it with this set and even with the new Alessian really, but it is one of dozens that need a tune-up or a rework.

Another one sorely in need of a tune-up is Sword-Singer, if Truth is to keep its 5 piece as it is and the new Dizzying Swing goes live.

@Pauls

Right, that is the issue, even though only Brawlers already using a 3 piece and/or not using TK might now equip Endurance, for a pure troll tank, there is no point to use Beekeeper or for the most part even the new Alessian, when you can run Endurance plus 2 piece Oblivion's Foe / Vampire's Kiss.

Off the top of my head, pretty sure 2 piece Vampire's Kiss is more HPS than Puncturing Remedy in No CP unless you're in like Sanctuary with the Ritual sign, if you allocate the stam drain from Ransack to Vigor.

Which is absurd, yet another ripple of the over-nerfing of 1h skills, but maybe I'm undervaluing MInor Protection.

@Pauls

For sure, the best S&B set right now by far. Too bad nobody on Earth runs vBRP to get the perfected version.

@goldenarcher1

Depends, some sort of passive proc damage shield, maybe, but relying on an active cast damage shield for Permafrost? Too risky, I'd take a static HP regen set over it any day.

This would be more of an issue if the % Health recovery bonus was still in place for racial passives, but I think it can still be very strong...

The 3 Piece sets were designed to be good with ability altering weapons (Maelstrom, Masters, BRP, AS). Giving you something that would be strong to run with one 5 piece, one 2 piece and one 3 piece. For example you could run Slime Craw + Mother's Sorrow + Wrath of Imperium + Perfect AS Destro and VMA Restoration staff and have a really high crit build with Minor Berzerk with some help with sustain by keeping Mutagen up on your back bar.

In theory you could combine Endurance with Troll King and some other health regen oriented 5 piece set (Permafrost maybe) this could make for a very hard to kill tank. You could also use a Master's Ice Staff and Balance with it to keep your magicka sustain going for some really trolly permablock and rooting action. You won't be able to kill very much directly, but in a group you could definitely make life miserable for your enemies. I'm sure no one in PvP will try anything like this...

@Sarousse

@kojou

In my view this new Endurance set doesn't change anything substantially other than replacing Beekeeper and Alessian in most builds using either set, and opening up new opportunities to incorporate a 3 piece set. It doesn't seem it will elevate trolltanking itself to any new level for strategic and tactical purposes. Using it within a balanced PvP build with 7th and Agility will be a solid build for sure, but nothing earth-shattering though I don't think.

Bashev wrote: »

You can add a bugged endurance shield with a health recovery enchant

Where do you find this? From the treasure vaults? This rings a dim bell in my head. I thought Grievous Ward was the only thing you could still find with that enchant.