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makes any difference have armor or not in this game??

teladoy
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I like a lot to do battlegrounds and I like always to test different builds, but there is something that gravely concerns me.

Seems that build armor is the same as nothing. I don't see a big difference in a fight if I have 33k or 15k armor. If I want to survive better combine some set that benefits in something with the right skills and don't lose my time thinking that Sets that gives me armor are gonna help me.

I've tried to stack armor but then I realize that my enemies hit me the same as strong as if I were wearing light armor. By the contrary if I just equip sets that just make me stronger in some other way, then the tactic is to equip also the right skills and kill before someone kills me and try to be simply out of target or react quicker.

Anyone else thinks the same?
Edited by teladoy on October 12, 2019 9:03PM
  • OG_Kaveman
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    Well, yeah.
  • Stebarnz
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    Equip 7 heavy impen on s+b bar then equip 7 light on destro bar and let someone dizzy swing you. Report the findings

    All relevant passives obv.
    Edited by Stebarnz on October 12, 2019 9:32PM
  • TBois
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    You are probably feeling the prevalence of penetration based builds, especially with how onslaught works right now.
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  • Iskiab
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    TBois wrote: »
    You are probably feeling the prevalence of penetration based builds, especially with how onslaught works right now.

    Yup this, onslaught lets you bypass resistances completely. Crit resists, maim, protection, strong healing, blocking and dodge rolling help more these days.
    Edited by Iskiab on October 12, 2019 10:08PM
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  • InvictusApollo
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    teladoy wrote: »
    I like a lot to do battlegrounds and I like always to test different builds, but there is something that gravely concerns me.

    Seems that build armor is the same as nothing. I don't see a big difference in a fight if I have 33k or 15k armor. If I want to survive better combine some set that benefits in something with the right skills and don't lose my time thinking that Sets that gives me armor are gonna help me.

    I've tried to stack armor but then I realize that my enemies hit me the same as strong as if I were wearing light armor. By the contrary if I just equip sets that just make me stronger in some other way, then the tactic is to equip also the right skills and kill before someone kills me and try to be simply out of target or react quicker.

    Anyone else thinks the same?

    It won't matter how much armor and resistances you have if your hots are low. Which hots do you use on your build? Please list them all.
  • teladoy
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    teladoy wrote: »
    I like a lot to do battlegrounds and I like always to test different builds, but there is something that gravely concerns me.

    Seems that build armor is the same as nothing. I don't see a big difference in a fight if I have 33k or 15k armor. If I want to survive better combine some set that benefits in something with the right skills and don't lose my time thinking that Sets that gives me armor are gonna help me.

    I've tried to stack armor but then I realize that my enemies hit me the same as strong as if I were wearing light armor. By the contrary if I just equip sets that just make me stronger in some other way, then the tactic is to equip also the right skills and kill before someone kills me and try to be simply out of target or react quicker.

    Anyone else thinks the same?

    It won't matter how much armor and resistances you have if your hots are low. Which hots do you use on your build? Please list them all.

    Impossible to answer...I have many characters and different builds... But normally my second bar has buffs and healings.
  • azjuwelz
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    What's showing up on your death recap?

    Also mag or stam? Because the armor passives may count for more than the resistances.
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  • idk
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    First off, That resistance provides a % in damage reduction. For every 660 resistance you get 1% damage reduction. This is known. For my reference you can look at Paul's thread. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-updated-15-07-2019/p1

    On top of that, the attacker has penetration which essentially takes away some of your resistance. How much they have is an unknown.

    So there is a difference, and a measurable difference.
  • Ffastyl
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    It's armor penetration, the hard cap of 50% passive damage reduction, and high damage of all players combined. The difference between high and low armor is getting hit for 5k or 7k and either way that's a 1 hit difference in TTK when you had to sacrifice a lot to achieve that small bonus. Defense in ESO consists of healing and damage negation (shields, rolling), not armor.
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  • JumpmanLane
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    teladoy wrote: »
    I like a lot to do battlegrounds and I like always to test different builds, but there is something that gravely concerns me.

    Seems that build armor is the same as nothing. I don't see a big difference in a fight if I have 33k or 15k armor. If I want to survive better combine some set that benefits in something with the right skills and don't lose my time thinking that Sets that gives me armor are gonna help me.

    I've tried to stack armor but then I realize that my enemies hit me the same as strong as if I were wearing light armor. By the contrary if I just equip sets that just make me stronger in some other way, then the tactic is to equip also the right skills and kill before someone kills me and try to be simply out of target or react quicker.

    Anyone else thinks the same?

    It won't matter how much armor and resistances you have if your hots are low. Which hots do you use on your build? Please list them all.

    Yep.THIS patch, you gotta run HOTS for the DOTS. HOWEVER, you better run what resits you can or you’re gonna REALLY get mopped.
  • Jeremy
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    teladoy wrote: »
    I like a lot to do battlegrounds and I like always to test different builds, but there is something that gravely concerns me.

    Seems that build armor is the same as nothing. I don't see a big difference in a fight if I have 33k or 15k armor. If I want to survive better combine some set that benefits in something with the right skills and don't lose my time thinking that Sets that gives me armor are gonna help me.

    I've tried to stack armor but then I realize that my enemies hit me the same as strong as if I were wearing light armor. By the contrary if I just equip sets that just make me stronger in some other way, then the tactic is to equip also the right skills and kill before someone kills me and try to be simply out of target or react quicker.

    Anyone else thinks the same?

    You may want to try boosting your resistance and health if you are trying to increase your survival because resistance alone isn't going to cut it as an effective defense. Beyond that I can't really comment because I'm not sure what class you play and what not. But generally speaking you are going to need multiple layers of defense to pull off a successful one.
    Edited by Jeremy on October 13, 2019 2:52AM
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