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Black dyes
Which of the black dyes is the darkest/looks the darkest on armor? I know of Legate black but thats locked behind more zerg running than I want to handle 
so what's the second best option?
so what's the second best option? 0
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭the coldharbour dye. Legate is honestly a pretty awesome color.Edited by Aliyavana on October 7, 2019 5:45AM8 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Legate is the blackish black. Coldharbour is a very dark-brownish one thats pretty decent for many uses, and far easier to get (duh)
But yeah, we get you. I want that legate black too someday, buit... too much zergrunning for someone who sucks at the PvPness like me, so... it will take quite a great while.
And if they -ever- allow color unlocks through crowns... I would find myself sorely tempted to spend uite a bit on that.1 -
Ysbriel✭✭✭✭✭Which of the black dyes is the darkest/looks the darkest on armor? I know of Legate black but thats locked behind more zerg running than I want to handle so what's the second best option?
Clodharbour black will give you the darkest in most of the equipment and costumes and i say most because some equipment and costume parts still give diferente looking tone anyways but it happens with all dyes. I wish ZOS would fix this.2 -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i haaaaaaate having colors locked behind pvp....especially if they are very core ones17 -
ah okay so coldharbor one is the darkest
damn do i rly need 500 hours of pvp to get a black color thats actually black.. okay then Edited by relentlessyouthofficialneb18_ESO on October 7, 2019 6:09AM0 -
Monte_Cristo✭✭✭✭✭
✭There's a dark green (something venom, I think) that looks darker than most of the blacks.3 -
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Monte_Cristo wrote: »There's a dark green (something venom, I think) that looks darker than most of the blacks.
Hmm Ill try that thanks. dark green would suit my stamcro anyways.0 -
Verbal_Earthworm✭✭✭✭✭
✭Viridian Venom awarded for the Toxicologist achievement: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alchemy_Trait_Achievements1 -
HappyLittleTree✭✭✭✭✭
✭I prefer the Noxophilic black over the legate the Legate one looks more like gimp suit leathery/latex black (except if you're going for that look)Thuu chakkuth lod Hajhiit c’oo? Hajhiit gortsuquth gorihuth thuu gooluthduj thdeitoluu!
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HappyLittleTree wrote: »I prefer the Noxophilic black over the legate the Legate one looks more like gimp suit leathery/latex black (except if you're going for that look)
ill check that one out too thanks
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Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »Viridian Venom awarded for the Toxicologist achievement: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alchemy_Trait_Achievements
will check. shouls have that unlocked already thanks! 0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »Legate is the blackish black. Coldharbour is a very dark-brownish one thats pretty decent for many uses, and far easier to get (duh)
But yeah, we get you. I want that legate black too someday, buit... too much zergrunning for someone who sucks at the PvPness like me, so... it will take quite a great while.
And if they -ever- allow color unlocks through crowns... I would find myself sorely tempted to spend uite a bit on that.
Isn't Coldharbour black also a matte finish while Legate is shiny?
I haven't used black dyes in a while so maybe I'm misremembering.Edited by MLGProPlayer on October 7, 2019 7:56AM5 -
Sasyk✭✭✭Oddly enough coldharbour ash black is the darkest one even if it's a matte finish. Imo anyway. The legate black has a weird purple-ish tint to it or something. It just isn't entirely black.
You can compare legate black and coldharbour black on the PTS with a max level template if you wanna see for yourself.
All this being said, hopefully they release an easily accessable shiny, dark black dye someday.Sasyk Ik-ce - Spacey Ricochet - Swaggette - Andrea Ik-ce - Avari Lebe - Rubi Malone - Amaryllis Fox - Sergeant Moxy - Moon Unit Zoey - Retro Betty - Emmanuelle Sinclair
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Monte_Cristo wrote: »There's a dark green (something venom, I think) that looks darker than most of the blacks.
It's still pretty clearly green. Also, it's shiny, very shiny.MLGProPlayer wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »Legate is the blackish black. Coldharbour is a very dark-brownish one thats pretty decent for many uses, and far easier to get (duh)
But yeah, we get you. I want that legate black too someday, buit... too much zergrunning for someone who sucks at the PvPness like me, so... it will take quite a great while.
And if they -ever- allow color unlocks through crowns... I would find myself sorely tempted to spend uite a bit on that.
Isn't Coldharbour black also a matte finish while Legate is shiny?
I haven't used black dyes in a while so maybe I'm misremembering.
Yeah, Ash Black mattes out on most surfaces, including metal. Can't remember, but I think Legate is always high gloss.0 -
InvictusApollo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Which of the black dyes is the darkest/looks the darkest on armor? I know of Legate black but thats locked behind more zerg running than I want to handle so what's the second best option?
Coldharbour Ash Black is actually a little too dark. It looks awesome on older motifs that have bad textures but on the new ones I go with Thalmor Black to see the details that Coldharbour Ash Black makes invisible. Although your black levels might be different since I'm using Reshade.2 -
markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭I use coldharbour black on leather stuff like imperial breeches. So black, that it hides well the rough structure. They look like biker pants like that.
On cloth like wood elf medium tops it looks too dark, matte. I prefer lighter versions there, like the one grey of the 10 bottom materials or Thalmor black. The result is somewhat shiny, like dark silver.
There also is a nice shiny brown that works very well in combination with coldharbour black, actually the only brown I like, but I forgot the name, it is one of the rare colours (I think motif master brown). You still get a very dark costume as result, but not as totally matte like when you use coldharbour black alone.Edited by markulrich1966 on October 7, 2019 9:54AM2 -
all this just makes me confused on why there in no black thats actually black in the game 😂 cmon dude id even buy it with crowns0
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markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭all this just makes me confused on why there in no black thats actually black in the game 😂 cmon dude id even buy it with crowns
as the former replies show: coldharbour ash black is the "real black". You get it finishing the main quest.
Only problem is, that a dye consists of more than just color. It also has impact on shininess. Coldharbour is matte (like a black shirt), not shiny (like the polished border of a TV).
If you are ok with an authentic black clothes look, this is the color for you, if you want a look like polished leather, you need worksarounds (brown/grey), as such a color actually does not exist in ESO as far as I know.Edited by markulrich1966 on October 7, 2019 9:59AM1 -
markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭here is another one, on some materials even coldharbour black looks shiny (like on these order of the hour breeches, similar effect with bloodforge breeches):
https://i.imgur.com/UYDkva2.pngEdited by markulrich1966 on October 7, 2019 10:24AM5 -
i know what it looks like im using it on all my chars. on some armor pieces it looks ok while on others it looks like garbage. not the kind of dark black im looking for sadly. legate one is closer to it0
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Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Voidstone violet https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Complete_All_Death_Challenges
Don't let the name deceive you. This dye is similar to transliminal violet (this often times looks gold especially on shiny dye slots). However, in the case of voidstone violet it is very black, but with a bluish tint to it. Definitely second best imo, but might be best depending on your preference.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Voidstone violet https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Complete_All_Death_Challenges
Don't let the name deceive you. This dye is similar to transliminal violet (this often times looks gold especially on shiny dye slots). However, in the case of voidstone violet it is very black, but with a bluish tint to it. Definitely second best imo, but might be best depending on your preference.
hmm might go well with the asylum skin. thanks will test it out 0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Voidstone violet https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Complete_All_Death_Challenges
Don't let the name deceive you. This dye is similar to transliminal violet (this often times looks gold especially on shiny dye slots). However, in the case of voidstone violet it is very black, but with a bluish tint to it. Definitely second best imo, but might be best depending on your preference.
Voidstone Violet is beautiful. Though, not exactly what I'd usually call black:
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Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Coldharbor ash black is really nice and dye's well on most material. Plate armors can have more of a greenish hue to it in certain light but overall its superb.
I feel ZOS put one of the only two actual black dyes behind main quest to get people to actually complete it, lol. Legate is nice but as we all know it will require a lot of time in PvP to acquire.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't overlook Tier 5 Materials (Ebony), and Noxophilic Black. Ebony does dye some things pitch black, very nicely. Noxophilic is a little light, but it's also a reliable black that doesn't darken things to the point where you lose all detail.7 -
SipofMaim✭✭✭✭Thalmor black dyes true black on some materials. It's not better than Coldharbor Ash Black imo, but it's an option.1 -
markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »Don't overlook Tier 5 Materials (Ebony), and Noxophilic Black. Ebony does dye some things pitch black, very nicely. Noxophilic is a little light, but it's also a reliable black that doesn't darken things to the point where you lose all detail.
Noxilic looks great: https://esooutfitideas.wordpress.com/tag/noxophilic-black/
So I need to become a vampire, get the dye as reward, and then can get a cure if I don't want to play as vampire?Edited by markulrich1966 on October 7, 2019 2:45PM0
That one is just not black enough 
