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Hybrid food proposal
HankTwo
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Hey guys,
after multiple changes to this game, namely the introduction of:
- tri stat enchants
- shacklebreaker set
- triune jewelry trait
- dunmer hybrid passives
- upcoming new moon acolyte set
- upcoming class buffs that give both major sorcery and brutality
Hybrids seem almost viable in PvP (not talking BIS, just good enough to feel strong). And while tri stat food is not bad at all, I think a dedicated hybrid food would really make these builds shine. After all, what hybrids really need are max resources and recovery for both bars. So here is my proposal:
Gold food 'hybridization paste'
- 3702* max stamina
- 3702* max magicka
- 370* stamina regen
- 370* magicka regen
*I based these values on 75% strength of lava foot soup-and-saltrice but for both stamina and magicka, which is a bit less but still similar to the ratio of 5 piece shacklebreaker vs bonepirate/bright-throat edit: wrong sets, I mean draugr hulk/crafty alfiq of course. If the numbers are too high they could still be adjusted. Still, the clear downside of this food would be the lack of max health, but hyrbids can compensate with full tri stat and triune gear.
What do you guys think, would a food option like this be a good addition to the game? Imo, it would bring something far more unique to the game than the upcoming second version of bloody mara.
Edited by HankTwo on October 3, 2019 1:12PM after multiple changes to this game, namely the introduction of:
- tri stat enchants
- shacklebreaker set
- triune jewelry trait
- dunmer hybrid passives
- upcoming new moon acolyte set
- upcoming class buffs that give both major sorcery and brutality
Hybrids seem almost viable in PvP (not talking BIS, just good enough to feel strong). And while tri stat food is not bad at all, I think a dedicated hybrid food would really make these builds shine. After all, what hybrids really need are max resources and recovery for both bars. So here is my proposal:
Gold food 'hybridization paste'
- 3702* max stamina
- 3702* max magicka
- 370* stamina regen
- 370* magicka regen
*I based these values on 75% strength of lava foot soup-and-saltrice but for both stamina and magicka, which is a bit less but still similar to the ratio of 5 piece shacklebreaker vs bonepirate/bright-throat edit: wrong sets, I mean draugr hulk/crafty alfiq of course. If the numbers are too high they could still be adjusted. Still, the clear downside of this food would be the lack of max health, but hyrbids can compensate with full tri stat and triune gear.
What do you guys think, would a food option like this be a good addition to the game? Imo, it would bring something far more unique to the game than the upcoming second version of bloody mara.
PC EU
Stam DK, Magden, Magplar, Stamcro, Hybrid Sorc, Magblade & Mag DK
Stam DK, Magden, Magplar, Stamcro, Hybrid Sorc, Magblade & Mag DK
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Alienoutlaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Maybe add 3700* Max Health also but without a re-gen would make a little better.
some new gold tri-stat food coming with the witches festival,be interesting to see how they perform1 -
HankTwo✭✭✭✭✭Alienoutlaw wrote: »Maybe add 3700* Max Health also but without a re-gen would make a little better.
some new gold tri-stat food coming with the witches festival,be interesting to see how they perform
Nah, adding max health on top would make this food simply op. Without it, using it has a clear downside.PC EU
Stam DK, Magden, Magplar, Stamcro, Hybrid Sorc, Magblade & Mag DK0 -
Darsaga✭✭✭2500 Health Mag Stam, and 250 each recovery.
Everything needs to be low enough that is isn’t BiS for anything, but very attractive to a hybrid. Even the numbers I have could be a little high.0 -
Rungar✭✭✭✭✭
✭i always like the idea of "food and drink" but your second choice was half strength.only a few years left to go now....
Current ideas for ESO improvement
Rungar's Mystical Emporium of Ideas junkyard0 -
HankTwo✭✭✭✭✭2500 Health Mag Stam, and 250 each recovery.
Everything needs to be low enough that is isn’t BiS for anything, but very attractive to a hybrid. Even the numbers I have could be a little high.
The new bewitched sugar skulls food will give 4620 health, 4250 max mag, 4250 max stam and 462 health regen (edit: which is a bit op imo, but it is what it is).
So in the end, with your proposed food you would gain 250 mag regen and 250 stam regen instead of 2120 health, 1750 max stam, 1750 max mag and 462 health regen. Not a good deal at all.
I also dislike the idea of a food with 5 different effects. Seems overloaded.
No health but better bi stats would show clearer advantages and disadvantages. Dunno why people want everything in one package.Edited by HankTwo on October 3, 2019 12:19PMPC EU
Stam DK, Magden, Magplar, Stamcro, Hybrid Sorc, Magblade & Mag DK0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hey guys,
after multiple changes to this game, namely the introduction of:
- tri stat enchants
- shacklebreaker set
- triune jewelry trait
- dunmer hybrid passives
- upcoming new moon acolyte set
- upcoming class buffs that give both major sorcery and brutality
Hybrids seem almost viable in PvP (not talking BIS, just good enough to feel strong). And while tri stat food is not bad at all, I think a dedicated hybrid food would really make these builds shine. After all, what hybrids really need are max resources and recovery for both bars. So here is my proposal:
Gold food 'hybridization paste'
- 3702* max stamina
- 3702* max magicka
- 370* stamina regen
- 370* magicka regen
*I based these values on 75% strength of lava foot soup-and-saltrice but for both stamina and magicka, which is a bit less but still similar to the ratio of shacklebreaker vs bonepirate/bright-throat. If the numbers are too high they could still be adjusted. Still, the clear downside of this food would be the lack of max health, but hyrbids can compensate with full tri stat and triune gear.
What do you guys think, would a food option like this be a good addition to the game? Imo, it would bring something far more unique to the game than the upcoming second version of bloody mara.
YES PLEASE!!!Alienoutlaw wrote: »Maybe add 3700* Max Health also but without a re-gen would make a little better.
some new gold tri-stat food coming with the witches festival,be interesting to see how they perform
Nah, adding max health on top would make this food simply op. Without it, using it has a clear downside.
And agreed. If it had health on top everyone would just use it and nothing else.1 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I thought there was going to be a gold recipe for witch festival that could be for hybrids. Someone posted an image of a tooltip and it looked very real.0 -
HankTwo✭✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »I thought there was going to be a gold recipe for witch festival that could be for hybrids. Someone posted an image of a tooltip and it looked very real.
As far as I know ZOS will add the following new foods/drinks:
- a very strong new tri stat food with health regen on top (which I mentioned in my previous comment)
- a stamina version of double bloudy mara drink (stam and health bi stat)
- for whatever reason a new, second version of bloody mara with health regen on top
While the new tri stat food will definitely be useful for a hybrids, it won't be a specific hybrid food like I proposed in this thread.Edited by HankTwo on October 3, 2019 12:54PMPC EU
Stam DK, Magden, Magplar, Stamcro, Hybrid Sorc, Magblade & Mag DK1 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »I thought there was going to be a gold recipe for witch festival that could be for hybrids. Someone posted an image of a tooltip and it looked very real.
As far as I know ZOS will add the following new foods/drinks:
- a very strong new tri stat food with health regen on top (which I mentioned in my previous comment)
- a stamina version of double bloudy mara drink (stam and health bi stat)
- for whatever reason a new, second version of bloody mara with health regen on top
While the new tri stat food will definitely be useful for a hybrids, it won't be a specific hybrid food like I proposed in this thread.
oh i'm sorry I did not read all the posts! I didn't know you talked about it. I'm glad it's real then!0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Drakavyn_morelock wrote: »I think this would be cool, I do hope hybrids will be viable soon
While I have no issue with a recipe that OP suggests but the max stat and regen will be less than a mag or stam recipe per stat as it should be.
Hybrids will never be able to reach the same dps as a pure build and should not. The foundation of the forces this and Zos has not showed a desire to change that.0 -
Darsaga✭✭✭2500 Health Mag Stam, and 250 each recovery.
Everything needs to be low enough that is isn’t BiS for anything, but very attractive to a hybrid. Even the numbers I have could be a little high.
The new bewitched sugar skulls food will give 4620 health, 4250 max mag, 4250 max stam and 462 health regen (edit: which is a bit op imo, but it is what it is).
So in the end, with your proposed food you would gain 250 mag regen and 250 stam regen instead of 2120 health, 1750 max stam, 1750 max mag and 462 health regen. Not a good deal at all.
I also dislike the idea of a food with 5 different effects. Seems overloaded.
No health but better bi stats would show clearer advantages and disadvantages. Dunno why people want everything in one package.
I just came up with fair numbers I would like on hybrid builds I have used. Mag and Stam recovery is a lot more attractive to me than the food you posted. Health recovery is pretty useless and a couple thousand more resource is somewhat attractive but still not as valuable as recovery IMO.
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JackDaniell✭✭✭✭✭
✭Been waiting to try this dish for years...
3500 mag/stam and 320 mag/stam recov?
This issue is that this food can very quickly become BIS because it offers any build thier main recource and both important recoveries.Ebonheart Templar
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UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Jewels of Misrule currently give 3880 Health, and 353 Mag/Stam recovery. Does that not count? XD0 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a DK relying on blocking as my primary defense, I hunger deeply for a gold food which offers Max Health, Max Stam, Health Regen, and Mag Regen. Bewitched Sugar Skulls should sate my hunger while I await this.
Crunchy Spider Skewer and Candied Jester's Coins should not be overlooked, they are probably among the least popular Delicacies in the game but are quite delicious.
Edited by Urzigurumash on October 4, 2019 1:38AMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
Darsaga✭✭✭UntilValhalla13 wrote: »Jewels of Misrule currently give 3880 Health, and 353 Mag/Stam recovery. Does that not count? XD
It isn’t quite that simple. Hybrids suffer from low damage and sustain. The game isn’t designed for them to work but they can manage to be fun. That is why everyone here has mentioned some form of food that gives Mag and Stam with both recovery as well. It has to be jussssst good enough to satisfy what they need without becoming the BiS food for everything.
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