Originally it did not have a penalty, but people were exploiting it, especially in Cryodiil, It does not work there anymore now though. I guess they felt they wanted to leave it in place.

Metella wrote: »

I dunno if it will help if you're just in an awkward place, but I emailed CS after falling through the steps of the Daggerfall Bank and being stuck there (I didn't know about /stuck but I managed to get out by paying 45g to fast travel to the nearest wayshrine) and they said if you log out for 5-10 minutes it should reset you to a sensible place (standing on the steps, I guess, in that case).

I do agree it's a bit unfair to lose equipment quality (and protection/damage until you repair it, I think?) for things like this, although I don't mind it for dying. (Well, I'm a bit annoyed right now because I tried to log out when I just had to answer the door and while it was counting down to logout I guess something attacked me because when I got back to the PC it hadn't logged out as my character had died )

I dont mind dying and losing durability. I brought that upon myself by either not handling the mobs I aggroed properly or attacking something I couldnt handle.

But I have no power over when the ground will suddenly open up and swallow me.

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, players shouldn't be punished (by way of gold loss) when they need to use the command because they legit got stuck. On the other hand, if it didn't cost you any gold loss I could see players using it to port back to the nearest wayshrine and the such. Maybe a good in-between would be for it to just move you to an unstuck position, but not port you all the way to the nearest wayshrine? Or perhaps just waive the fee until some of the random things causing players to use the command are fixed (like horses, and the falling through the ground bit..which thankfully I haven't had happen yet).

Melian wrote: »

If you're stuck, you can strip naked before using /stuck.

This solves the problem elegantly about repair cost.

The other solution is to make it a spell with say 5 minutes casting time.

Melian wrote: »

If you're stuck, you can strip naked before using /stuck.

Oh yah, I hear that all the time IRL too, “I’m sorry you’re feeling stuck… Let’s get naked! That will make everything better!”

I can understand about the moneysink hole with the /stuck, but if you're really worried about a little bit a gold. I honestly don't think you should be. Its fairly nothing if you die once, but I can see dying several times just by falling through the stairs painful. Whenever you get into town..I would suggest waiting a few minutes/secs for things to completely load before trying to attempt to walk up the stairs. I know your pain considering its happened to me quite a few times now, but since its happened to me a lot since early release I just wait for everything to render so I don't have to keep using the /stuck option to get free.

Sakura_Rose wrote: »

I can understand about the moneysink hole with the /stuck, but if you're really worried about a little bit a gold. I honestly don't think you should be. Its fairly nothing if you die once, but I can see dying several times just by falling through the stairs painful. Whenever you get into town..I would suggest waiting a few minutes/secs for things to completely load before trying to attempt to walk up the stairs. I know your pain considering its happened to me quite a few times now, but since its happened to me a lot since early release I just wait for everything to render so I don't have to keep using the /stuck option to get free.

So the solution to the problem at hand is to stand and wait for the world to properly render?

I am not looking for advice on how to circumvent any known issues. This is about how known issues are currently making the game frustrating and in turn difficult to rationalize playing. And the choice of a penalty added to the use of a feature meant to help you. Is compounding that frustration. I enjoy this game but as someone that wants to feel accomplished after hours of gameplay. That wants to feel as if there is some worthwhile reward for leveling. I dont want to see those hours wasted away on repair costs. Especially when I was not at fault for those costs.

Not every concern needs to be shrugged off with 'take your gear off' or 'wait' kind of responses. You dont have to feel as if what Im saying is important, or pertains to you. But honestly I would be more interested in a yay or nay sort of response from the community rather then a work around.

As for a little bit of gold? Just yesterday I fell through the ground atleast a half a dozen times. And the world was rendered from the looks of it til I found myself falling through a door at the bank. I maybe died twice because of fighting mobs. By the time I got to a vendor. I had a 600g price tag on my gear. Maybe theres a point where suddenly the gold starts flowing in. But I havent hit that point. And if I was to add up all of the gold Ive spent over the last week. The majority of it would of been repairs, and most of those repairs would of been due to / stuck penalties.
A 300-600 gold repair cost every day or every other day can be rather pricey after a while. Especially when youre a low level and most quest drop below 100g and mobs barely drop 2g.

Metella wrote: »

A trip to the nearest wayshrine should work, and is a flat rate of 45g, I think (or at least, it's going to be a lot cheaper than repairing all your equipped stuff). I know it's still pretty unhelpful, but it's better than /stuck, by the sounds of it.

Travelling to a wayshrine while falling through the ground apparently doesnt work or doesnt work every time. Tried it yesterday when I fell through the bank door for the second time.

The game virtually has no penalties for anything, so can't muster any indignation for this one.

Seems to me it was implemented as a deterrent to people using /stuck as a free teleport spell. But it is insult to injury when you're falling through the world.

Lonzrick wrote: »

Well, the engine knows where the ground is--even if you sometimes fall through it. /stuck should simply move you to a couple of feet above the floor and then drop you. In theory, the engine would then catch you back on terra firma.

...Or allow you to access areas you arent supposed to.

SirAndy wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Its still an unnecessary penalty and finding work arounds doesnt make it okay.

No it isn't pointless at all.
It's there to prevent people from abusing /stuck as a means of cheap and quick fast-travel, which has been a huge problem in PvP for a long time.

You aren't supposed to like it. That's the whole point ...
;-)

It was only abused because ZOS made it abusable. Every MMO Ive been apart of either A.) Teleported you a few feet away to the left/right/up/down to where it was you belonged. or B.) Teleported you to a point of interest.

If they were going to implement a large scale PvP zone where people would have to cross large areas of the game to fight....They should of just went with option A.

Inadvertantly punishing players because a handful of idiots took advantage of a mechanic they themselves placed into the game. Is definitely unnecessary.

i suggested this and met the same resistance!

it would be abused as you get put at a wayshrine...that's the primary opposition, and they are right.

you as a player can only strip to avoid it.

they really should make is it like the SWTOR system where it moves you a several yards away.