I don't know about a flat level 50 cap, since you can get certain skills at lower level with diligent grinding. Meteor is particularly easy to acquire if you have a lorebook map and the will to run around colecting overdue library books.

I do wish ZOS had looked at what level players can reasonably acquire those skills and limited the skill lines to after those levels.

I had meteor on my level 10 DK once, but that was because I was willing to go the length it takes to get meteor on such low level. I actually reached level 10 just finding those notebooks and discovering places. Lucky for me, my wife also plays ESO who actually gave me lift to all the shrines nearby to lore book locations.
But this new wat of paying to get meteors or dawn breaker, its plain and simple P2W, and if someone comes and says you already have it on another toon, so its fare to buy it for another, well it's not because the others who also have it on their main or another toon unlocked but chose NOT TO BUY it, they are at huge disadvantage against who did.
Flat cap of level 50 to buy these skills is not fair either as these can be unlocked before lvl 50 by usual methods, so I guess we have to live with this unfair system.

Actually screw the skill lines, those don’t matter as much as 2 sets of purple gear once every 5 levels so that no skill pvpers can live nearly forever while deleting you in 2 seconds. I always play my alts with gear it earns from content/BG itself and I can still easily dominate BGs aside from a full twink game. Personal preference probably, but being too reliant on gear sucks for your skill and sucks for the newbies that want to pvp.

While the skill lines can certainly make a difference, it's true that gear generally matters a lot more. I'd love to see ZOS normalize all stats in the lowbie BGs: everyone gets the same amount of crit resistance no matter what, gets treated as though they're using an on-level gold quality weapon, etc...

GoNutsDK wrote: »

After the skill line got put up for sale, the golded out low lvl twinks has gotten even stronger. Meteors and Dawnbreakers are now common but only for those that pay.
I think that it would be more fair if you would have to be 50 before you could buy them. As it is now, a lot of new pvp'ers will be turned away from bgs.

seriously from what i know that you can now buy the skill lines didnt change anything for lowbie pvp.
( and im saying that from the point of view of a person who played nonvet pvp for 2+ years on PC EU and knows quite a lot of the other people there and ive never even heard a single one of those other players say that they bought a skill line nor have done so myself for any of my chars)
It is already easy enough to aquire every single skill you want for lowbie pvp and all ppl who have played there for some time know how to.
I for example have already had chars who for lowbie had Dawnbreaker of Smithing, Deep Thoughts / Undo, Rally , Reverb and Restoring Focus and were ready by at the latest lvl 36.

And you can easily get more than that.

Crucified4sin wrote: »

Are there really people that care about >50 bgs?
(An honest question)
I would think they are just a means to an end (<50 bgs)

However, I have played games where there were low lvl pvp areas that people would make toons specifically for.

Is that a thing on eso?

I am also surprised that anyone really cares about pre50 Bgs. The balance must be out of whack with or without purchaseable skill lines. And I don't know why folks wouldn't just be trying to get to CP160 play the end game PVP.

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Good. Now grow a pair and come adult PvP instead of whacking noobs.

Except it doesn't stop at cap.

All BG's at cap are games of Whack-a-Noob with the odd decent player or premade (Console premades are *** poor on average) chucked in - You got long time players stacking up with and against 100CP guys, they've got even less of a chance than these people in < 50's.

Cyrodil is a sheep-herding simulator, gather all the sheep and lead them into any doorway ready for slaughter.