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World Passives (vampire/werewolf/MORTALS)
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agreed. I hate the vampire meta. You have to be one if you want to have an optimized character.
I'd like a bit more variety. Right now, vampirism is just a free buff that everyone and their mother has active. Either it needs some actual drawbacks (slightly more fire damage is a joke) or there need to be other passives available that can rival it.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 26, 2019 6:31PM0 -
Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »Well, actually what "immortal" means differs according to what definition of the term someone would apply. And yes, that "cannot die of age of illness" is -ONE- possible definition. One possible "degree" of immortality. There are others, including "cannot die at all, no way, not gonna happen until the end of the universe and possibly beyond" or somewhere in between...
That is indeed another possible definition but it is stretched too far. If we apply that definition then there are no mortals in the TES Universe because every being possesses an immortal, everlasting and unslayable soul. The death of a "mortal" is then nothing but the decay of its fragile body, which will just unleash the soul.
Not even Molag Bal is able to destroy it, although he tries really hard to accomplish this. Considering the events going on in his realm cold harbor, he must be in that regard the hardest trying tryhard that ever tried hard - and he fails miserably.I think you mean mortals, only 4 out of the 10 races are humans.
Well if you really wanted to nit pick you could actually say they are not human because humans are from earth and not nirn in the elder scrolls universe. They are "human like" and technically come from the wandering Ehlnofey.
I'm not sure what you are on about. Species aren't categorized by their origin but by their physical properties. Redguards, Imperials, Bretons and Nords were inspired by real life folks. They are fictional adaptations of human beings, and in the end result, they are humans.
The same can be seen in the Lord of the Rings. They are called Humans, despite the fact that they originated from Middle Earth.Not to mention breton are half elven.
Talking about nit picking, no bretons are not half elven. If an elf mates with a human, their child is a half elf. But if that half elf mates with another human, that offspring of theirs is not a half elf. This is exactly what happened with the Bretons. They might have some elven genes remaining but over the generations it thinned out by such a degree, that Bretons can not be considered half elven but in fact humans.
I disagree. By that logic you could also say a orc or altmer are human because they too share humanoid characteristics. Lord of the rings actually uses the term "men" the age of men etc. Human is specifically humans from earth (real life humans)
I mentioned that the beings from nirn have totally different origins as they were formed from spirit creatures after the creation of mundus and nirn. (Wandering ehlnofey being men and the old ehlnofey being mer) human implies specifically earth evolved. That's what I'm talking about.
And regarding your breton argument. Getting into genetics is perhaps nit picking to slightly silly levels. I use the the term loosely ofcourse when i use the word "half"
But despite the possible watering down of their blood lines, it's still safe to say they are distinctly different to say the nords or redguard not just in a physical sense with their slightly pointed ears and smaller frame, but also thier racial passive abilities which are focused around a natural ability with magical forces.
Edited by Neoealth on September 26, 2019 6:39PM0 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭
All races have the same ancestors. Except Argonians,but still for Divines and Daedras they are all humans.DocFrost72 wrote: »0 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Agreed. I hate the vampire meta. You have to be one if you want to have an optimized character.
I'd like a bit more variety. Right now, vampirism is just a free buff that everyone and their mother has active. Either it needs some actual drawbacks (slightly more fire damage is a joke) or there need to be other passives available that can rival it.
As a vampire fan myself, I agree with this. I play or because I like it, but it's stupid the way it is. You can counter for damage with a bit more cp on spell resist and fire resist and done. Now you just have a bunch of very very useful passives.
What I think could be fun was a bit more fire damage again, forcing vamps to feed by making level 1 vamp the stronger, not level 4, and making fire snare you as a vampire, meaning it would be even more of a danger. Maybe even increasing the chance of burning status and adding a drawback to vampirism that when you're burning, you take even more damage from any source.
That way, if you're a tank and want to be vamp, you'll need to purge burning or be a dunmer, otherwise the fire bosses will eat you for dinner. Same for PvP. That mitigating passive isn't gonna be free anymore.0 -
RPGplayer13579✭✭✭✭Don't our racial passives count as our mortal passives?My Characters.
Mike Snow - Imperial - Templar - One-Handed and Shield - Tank - Daggerfall Covenant - Commander.
Catelyn Rivers - Breton - Sorcerer - Destruction Staff - Daggerfall Covenant - Telvanni Magister.
Ashara Sand - Redguard - Warden - Two-Handed/One-Handed and Shield - Daggerfall Covenant - Heroic.
Tormund gro-Largash - Orsimer - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Daggerfall Covenant - Furious.
Lysa Rivers - Breton - Nightblade - Bow/One-Handed and Shield - Vampire - Daggerfall Covenant - Brassy Assassin.
Jon Karstark - Nord - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Ebonheart Pact - Drunk.
Arya Sand - Dunmer - Dragonknight - Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Assassin.
Sansa Snow - Impeial - Warden - Destruction Staff/One-Handed and Shield - Ebonheart Pect - Swashbuckler.
Jojen Reed-Walker - Argonian - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Ebonheart Pact - Melancholy.
Alys Karstark - Nord - Nightblade - Bow/Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Minstrel.
Nymeria Woods - Bosmer - Nightblade - Bow - Aldmeri Dominion - Thief.
Brandon Wings - Altmer - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Aldmeri Dominion - Scholar.
Lyanna Flowers - Altmer - Sorcerer - Sword/Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Duchess.
Marvolo-jo Riddle - Khajiit - Necromancer - Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Deadlands Firewalker.
Obara Woods - Bosmer - Templar - Bow - Werewolf - Aldmeri Dominion - Cheerful.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭RPGplayer13579 wrote: »Don't our racial passives count as our mortal passives?
But you don't lose those passives when you become a vampire.2 -
Vizikul✭✭✭✭I disagree. By that logic you could also say a orc or altmer are human because they too share humanoid characteristics. Lord of the rings actually uses the term "men" the age of men etc. Human is specifically humans from earth (real life humans)
And I disagree with your disagree. Just because a creature shares humanoid characteristics doesn't make that creature a human. Apes are humanoid being but they are not categorized as humans.Lord of the rings actually uses the term "men" the age of men etc. Human is specifically humans from earth (real life humans)
"Men" is just a poetical synonym for humans. Poets use that one all the time. It is even used in ESO:
1. "Men and Mer", elves are categorized separately.
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Of_Men_and_Mer
2. Lyrics from the red diamond song:
Red Diamond! Red Diamond!
The heart and soul of Men.
Red Diamond! Red Diamond!
Protect us till the end.
When Elves lost Nirn to Men, Akatosh gave the stone
To Saint Alesh in token of Her right to sit the throne.
https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Diamond_(Song)Pugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭AND we need passives for the type of Environment we are in - depends on land location....
AND we need passives for the Mounts we use.....
AND we need passives for the pets we use.....
AND our summoned pets need their own passives.....
AND we need passives depending on what month it is.....
AND we need passives depending on the what day it is.....
AND we need passives depending on what time it is.....
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