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THEY FINALLY MADE STAM FIST! Its a start...
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Fur_like_snow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »The skill is so underwhelming in practice it’s just sad. First off it should be melee range not some weird mid range skill that doesn’t synergize with any other skill that a stamDK would slot. Second the weave feels awful the animations need to be redone. Third, 20k stam and 6 GCD for a stun what???? Also it looks like you’re flinging 💩 at your enemy what happened to the poison theme? Now it’s rocks I don’t get it.
Why praise Zeni for a half baked idea when all they really did was change the cost and color from blue to green. if It actually worked well I’d be more optimistic about other skill changes.
So, you know what build is going to be the strongest after next patch? Please tell us, or are you talking in angry forum-speak.
Actually I do have a good idea what PvP builds are going to be strong next patch from my testing and others. But that is a subject best left discussed privately on discord.
If you’re looking for PvE you’ll have to look elsewhere for updates on parses.Edited by Fur_like_snow on September 22, 2019 12:26AM1 -
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✭Urzigurumash wrote: »@Fur_like_snow
Can you confirm that not only does the stun not proc until the 6th cast, but that the target must not have CC immunity at the time of this 6th cast? However, if the target is CC immune during the 6th cast, the stacks will persist until the target is stunned? Also, does any stun whatsoever from any caster remove the stacks, or only a Stonefist stun?
It requires 6 successful casts to stun barring CC immunity. Yes, the stacks do persist. For your last question the stacks can be removed by another DK(from the tool tip) if they can land the 6th cast. I cannot confirm if it works that way since I only dueled on PTS.Edited by Fur_like_snow on September 22, 2019 12:24AM0 -
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✭Thanks @Fur_like_snow
Do other stuns, Reverb Bash, Fossilize, etc., cleanse the stacks? I assume strictly a successful 6th Stonefist cleanses the stacks?
Edited by Urzigurumash on September 22, 2019 1:47AMXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im not 5 or an orc so i gave up throwing rocks years ago.
As an Orc player, I'm offended. Just be glad it's only rocks we're throwing...
I only use Obsidian Shard mainly just to be annoying in BGs/Cyro by hitting an opponent distracted by my closer ranged allies attacks. I know people were asking for a stam whip, but on some level I can understand why they chose Stonefist to use instead. However, Stonefist was never used because it was a powerful damaging skill. Turning what is basically a utility skill into a class spammable attack just doesn't work, especially since I find it so clunky to use."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."0 -
OG_Kaveman✭✭✭✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »The skill is so underwhelming in practice it’s just sad. First off it should be melee range not some weird mid range skill that doesn’t synergize with any other skill that a stamDK would slot. Second the weave feels awful the animations need to be redone. Third, 20k stam and 6 GCD for a stun what???? Also it looks like you’re flinging 💩 at your enemy what happened to the poison theme? Now it’s rocks I don’t get it.
Why praise Zeni for a half baked idea when all they really did was change the cost and color from blue to green. if It actually worked well I’d be more optimistic about other skill changes.
as has been mentioned, you get 990 stam back every time you cast the skill, effectively making the cost 14k, which is about average for a spammable attack, between 2,700 and 2,100.0 -
Swiftnoodle✭✭✭The title of this thread alone is stuff for another DK meme.
and NO! it's not a start it's an insultEdited by Swiftnoodle on September 22, 2019 11:51AMMurphy was an optimist3 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Swiftnoodle wrote: »The title of this thread alone is stuff for another DK meme.
and NO! it's not a start it's an insult
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✭✭✭✭✭Many who have advocated the #stamwhip meme for the last couple years, may have seen me mention this would be the better alternative. I'm glad to see this happening, even though I dislike the nerfs to overall damage and the fact that rotations are being made more expensive AGAIN.
Beyond having a class spammable, the REAL benefit from this is that stamina Dragonknights will be able to make use of their Earthen Heart passives. Sustain has long been an issue for Dragonknights and gaining stamina from a class spammable via Helping Hands will be a great change. Additionally, Dragonknights have two of the most expensive ultimates and rely on their ultimates for sustain via Battle Roar. Gaining ultimate regeneration from a spammable, as well as a more reliable source of the Minor Brutality group buff, from Mountain's Blessing will let that passive actually be used to increase both damage and sustain.
While I am concerned about many of the changes in the PTS patch notes, this is one that I am thrilled to see.
Its one of the msot useless skills ive seen. 17k stam for a stun after 5 attacks lmao?PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Fur_like_snow wrote: »The skill is so underwhelming in practice it’s just sad. First off it should be melee range not some weird mid range skill that doesn’t synergize with any other skill that a stamDK would slot. Second the weave feels awful the animations need to be redone. Third, 20k stam and 6 GCD for a stun what???? Also it looks like you’re flinging 💩 at your enemy what happened to the poison theme? Now it’s rocks I don’t get it.
Why praise Zeni for a half baked idea when all they really did was change the cost and color from blue to green. if It actually worked well I’d be more optimistic about other skill changes.
So, you know what build is going to be the strongest after next patch? Please tell us, or are you talking in angry forum-speak.
Magplar/ mag warden/ mag sorc with current notes.
Best stamina would be stam templar/ stam warden.
But overall mag is far better than stam.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Good idea but they need to make it longer range if its going to be useful, and too bad for my magdk is loosing its ranged stun on his heavy atack build, so the build is not going to work anymore...0
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✭How does making stone fist have a longer range synergize with any DK class skills?0