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When does it all end with the nerfs? Edited after reading patch notes. Sorry

Somber97866
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My buddy just told me that there is going to be another round of sorc nerfs coming in future updates. Player's out there that play sorcs ( and nothing but ) are only going to take so much abuse before they quit for good and become outspoken nay Sayers of the game.
I once main'd a sorc but even I couldn't take seeing my bread and butter marginalized every patch!
Then I've heard that the damage of the dots are being reduced ?!?
Where does this all end? I'm starting to feel like a hamster on one of those wheels. ZOS WTF are you doin?
Edited by Somber97866 on September 17, 2019 7:12PM
  • Kaunas
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    Im a FILTHY SORC main and only that, its like my go-to class right. And what about the nerfs? For me personally i dont like damage over time, for me its 'pure damage', skills like wrath and frags that do burst damage.
    Question is what Are the sorc nerfs since i missed it?
  • mairwen85
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    Kaunas wrote: »
    Im a FILTHY SORC main and only that, its like my go-to class right. And what about the nerfs? For me personally i dont like damage over time, for me its 'pure damage', skills like wrath and frags that do burst damage.
    Question is what Are the sorc nerfs since i missed it?
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493609/pts-patch-notes-v5-2-0#latest

    Inform yourself. Don’t be misinformed.


  • Kaunas
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Kaunas wrote: »
    Im a FILTHY SORC main and only that, its like my go-to class right. And what about the nerfs? For me personally i dont like damage over time, for me its 'pure damage', skills like wrath and frags that do burst damage.
    Question is what Are the sorc nerfs since i missed it?
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493609/pts-patch-notes-v5-2-0#latest

    Inform yourself. Don’t be misinformed.


    Thank you sir. By the sorc notes.. nothing has changed in reguard of actual "magic" burst damage.. no idea what the fuss is about even more
  • NyassaV
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    Sorc got a buff. Ball of Lightning is a lovely skill now!
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  • Morgul667
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    Nothing changed for sorc per se

    Move along
  • maddiniiLuna
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    Sorc got a buff and on top of that will be the only class with a reliable stun. You shouldn't be listening to your buddy I'm afraid.
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    on please sorc's got a buff its the dk's again who got hammered most skills 47 - 60% damaged reduction and big cost increase, most other classes got a nerf here but also buffs
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  • SirAndy
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    Kaunas wrote: »
    no idea what the fuss is about even more
    Some Sorcs liked the dots and made a working build around that. Useless now ...

    Just because you like to play a specific way doesn't mean there's aren't people out there who prefer a different playstyle ...
    rolleyes.gif

    Edited by SirAndy on September 17, 2019 7:51AM
  • Bigevilpeter
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    All classes have been nerfed to the ground, stop whining about your specific class, they just killed the whole game
  • gepe87
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    Suprised about BoL (already using it). Now i can drop Race against time (snare removal), change monster set (chudan) and slot again boundless for resistances and expedition.
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  • Cirantille
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    On the contrary I felt like I was doing a bit more damage last night, I don't know is it just me or it is because of the changes

    I didn't really check the notes
  • Deathlord92
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    They nerfed nb to the point of being useless so 😔
  • Frostystuff
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    gepe87 wrote: »
    Suprised about BoL (already using it). Now i can drop Race against time (snare removal), change monster set (chudan) and slot again boundless for resistances and expedition.

    It probably come down to whether you mainly pvp of pve, pvpers have been happy with the changes ( and its telling that the former head of pvp is now head of all combat). For people just starting into trial progression though this is complete @#$%.
  • HappyLittleTree
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    Is the "Sorc got nerfed" a meme now?
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  • Vanos444
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    Sorc nerfed??! :D
    I say, NERF SORC till they are balanced.
  • Sirvandal
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    l2p
  • daemondamian
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Kaunas wrote: »
    no idea what the fuss is about even more
    Some Sorcs liked the dots and made a working build around that. Useless now ...

    Just because you like to play a specific way doesn't mean there's aren't people out there who prefer a different playstyle ...
    rolleyes.gif

    TLDR: my new build based on what they changed in the previous patch is now ***, my dps is weak asf because I dont light weave, I'm excluded from 30% of content so wtf am I getting ESO+ for and how am i supposed to put up with continually rebuilding my pet sorc let alone my other 11 alt chars?


    I am one such Sorc, a pet sorc (just the VF) in particular who made my way through the upheaval of Nerfmire, dropping the use of shields and adapted my playstyle to be not that great but okayish for most but not vet DLC or endgame trial content.

    Then the last patch arrived and I decided to completely revisit my skills and playstyle and it was worth it!

    Necropotence and Mothers Sorrow. Lightning staff bar: lightning form, wall of unstable elements, liquid lightning

    Inferno Staff: Crystal Fragments, Degeneration, Soul Splitting Trap,

    I've been doing content I wouldn't have considered before and contributing positively to groups as a confident, useful dps.

    ICP on vet - it was still demanding of attention and being careful but I didn't feel like dead weight or a useless dps member, I even did some normal trials and was thrilled to finally be able to farm the BIS meta sets for my characters.

    For a time it was glorious and fun but now it seems I've been pushed down into the mud again.

    With DoTs being nerfed, I'm forced to either use spammables or light weaving, which I never excelled in and or go back to being the boring heavy staff attacking, pet sorc with weak barely noticeable AOE/DOT skills and low dps disqualifying me from playing or farming.

    I will stick with ESO until I've gained as most achievements on my main pet sorc as I can (excluding those impossible for me to get) and have done most of the content but if these changes keep happening and light weaving, quick reflexes remain the only way to do 30% of the content without being carried then I'm going to find an MMORPG that doesn't rely on such mechanics.

    P.S. "Major and Minor Ward have been discontinued." Are. You. F'ing. Kidding. Me? So my characters that are already glass canons, built for dps who have to rely on healers and tanks in group content that don't always serve their function particularly well are going to be weaker, more easily killed with lesser defences.

    So um what play as a tank or healer or META BIS DPS who light weaves and has superb hand eye coordination and crystal clear focused attention or only play overland and normal 'easier' dungeons AKA City of Ash 1, Spindleclutch 1, Crypt of Hearts 1, Fungal Grotto 1 or simply GTFO?
    Edited by daemondamian on September 17, 2019 11:45AM
  • maddiniiLuna
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    Funny how you all be like "my new build this and that" like you didn't copy paste that stuff from alcast and semi afk done some random trials for this lol. You did it once you can do it again! ;)

    PS: keep your sets they might be handy later
  • daemondamian
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    Funny how you all be like "my new build this and that" like you didn't copy paste that stuff from alcast and semi afk done some random trials for this lol. You did it once you can do it again! ;)

    PS: keep your sets they might be handy later


    I didn't actually - I checked the Alcast guide for one reason - it came up when I was googling as to whether or not to use crystal fragments.

    My previous build used almost the exact same build as my DoT one except for shattering prison, channeled acceleration, and the morphs of surge and entropy that at that time gave heals and major sorcery.

    So the other skills I chose aside from CF was because I'd read DoTs were going to be stronger, to ensure I would still have major sorcery and minor/major prophecy and to have a heal/way to return to magicka, also I think might have calculated and compared the magicka cost per point of dps.

    The last time I'd checked the alcast pet sorc build before then it didn't have soul splitting trap or crystal frags.

    Thanks for the advice - I am doing/do do that but I only have so much room! lol :)
    Edited by daemondamian on September 18, 2019 6:28AM
  • Somber97866
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    Btw I don't main a sorc. I hit big numbers without pets on my sorc back up. But the point is they have better things to be doing than reverting stuff they already put out ( test on pts by you guys on comp) and not taking care of performance issues. Not cause more bs to ppl who already spent time and effort to adjust their builds.
  • Shadowasrial
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    When it ends with the nb nerfs
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    P.S. "Major and Minor Ward have been discontinued." Are. You. F'ing. Kidding. Me? So my characters that are already glass canons, built for dps who have to rely on healers and tanks in group content that don't always serve their function particularly well are going to be weaker, more easily killed with lesser defences.

    I think you misread that part. It's a change in name only, not in substance. The new Major Resolve is the old Major Resolve plus the old Major Ward, and the same goes for the Minor buffs.
  • doomette
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    PS: keep your sets they might be handy later
    And this is why I have a hoarding problem. Too many major changes that make awesome sets crap and crap sets awesome. Won’t someone think of my storage space :(

  • Somber97866
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    I am sorry everyone. I posted this before I read the future of the game patch notes and what the devs have in mind for us endgamers. Forgive me . I wish I could delete this post. I feel for all of us endgamers and the future BS that's coming down the pipeline.
  • Lylith
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    doomette wrote: »
    PS: keep your sets they might be handy later
    And this is why I have a hoarding problem. Too many major changes that make awesome sets crap and crap sets awesome. Won’t someone think of my storage space :(

    they'll think of how to monetize it. certainly.
  • ayu_fever
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    there are never enough sorc nerfs
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    Freyja Straight-Fire, nord warden tank: THE ICEBERG (dungeons, trials)
    Ororo Straight-Fire, dark elf magsorc: THE SHOCKWAVE (dungeons, trials)
    Michonne Straight-Fire, redguard stamDK: THE EVISCERATOR (dungeons, trials)

    just for fun toons-
    Rhea Straight-Fire, wood elf warden stam healer: THE RANGER
    Shiva Straight-Fire, high elf warden ice mage: THE CRYOMANCER
    Morgana Straight-Fire, dark elf necromancer solo play: THE DEATHSINGER
    Lucille Straight-Fire, dark elf nightblade solo play: THE VOIDWALKER
    Diana Straight-Fire, nord templar tank: THE CLERIC
    Falsetto Straight-Fire, orc stamsorc werewolf: THE THUNDERHOWL
  • itscompton
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    With the absolute decimation of all DOTs and the mobility sorcs have to avoid direct damage burst combos (not to mention having one of the best combos themselves) I think MagSorcs will be one of the strongest classes in PvP if this all goes through.
    And for those saying PvP players are happy with the changes, that's pure BS. PvP will be nothing but people kiting around towers/rocks/trees until they have an ult ready to turn around and burst combo anyone chasing. Any diversity in play style is getting killed by these changes.
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    P.S. "Major and Minor Ward have been discontinued." Are. You. F'ing. Kidding. Me? So my characters that are already glass canons, built for dps who have to rely on healers and tanks in group content that don't always serve their function particularly well are going to be weaker, more easily killed with lesser defences.

    I think you misread that part. It's a change in name only, not in substance. The new Major Resolve is the old Major Resolve plus the old Major Ward, and the same goes for the Minor buffs.

    Thanks for clarifying that.
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