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Do your thing ZOS

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The dissatisfied will always scream louder than the satisfied. We're naturally resistant to change.

Keep doing your thing ZOS.

You are all here by free will. You may leave at any moment you please.

Warmest regards,
A player whose class got nerfed to the ground and who is looking forward to a fresh game.
  • Bigevilpeter
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    Yeah when they nerf the dps by half the playerbase will also drop by half, most of the content will be undoable for most players. Everyone who knows anything about the game know this is a trainwreck.

    Its in thier interest to listen to their playerbase, I never whined about nerfs before, but this time is just complete deal breaker
  • seventyfive
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    Yeah when they nerf the dps by half the playerbase will also drop by half, most of the content will be undoable for most players. Everyone who knows anything about the game know this is a trainwreck.

    Its in thier interest to listen to their playerbase, I never whined about nerfs before, but this time is just complete deal breaker

    I'm gonna go halfway and agree that some content will be undoable for most players. How is that a disaster? To me it sounds like much more of a disaster that all content is doable for most players.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Yeah when they nerf the dps by half the playerbase will also drop by half, most of the content will be undoable for most players. Everyone who knows anything about the game know this is a trainwreck.

    Its in thier interest to listen to their playerbase, I never whined about nerfs before, but this time is just complete deal breaker

    how will this be the case? oh you mean the ppl that claim you need Xdps to be able to join their "lil group" have said this? well you can clear ALL content quite nicely with 30-35k dps, may take longer but its still doable
  • BalticBlues
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    We're naturally resistant to change.
    Keep doing your thing ZOS.
    With the new dev team, people indeed were looking forward to change:
    People were looking forward to BALANCE
    Balancing is achieved by small steps into the right direction.

    What did happen instead?
    The new dev team took the wildest steps into several directions.

    Results:
    - balance totally destroyed, especially PvE
    - entire playstyles destroyed, like pets.
    - entire skills destroyed with wild changes or going from Magicka to Stamina

    Proof of the total failure is that each patch reverts changes of the last patch.
    I did not like Wrobel, but at least his game was stable.
    The new devs are not even able to deliver a stable game, not even speaking of balance.

    Result: Players now have to relearn the game every 3 months.
    I wish ZOS would fire the new dev team and restore the Summerset release state.

    This thread has more truth than ever:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/438791/the-chisel-vs-the-hammer-an-open-letter-to-zos/p1

    Edited by BalticBlues on September 17, 2019 10:40AM
  • Papachico
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    BOOM BABY
  • Banana
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    Yep. Theres no going back now. Until maybe next patch.
  • Darkenarlol
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    The dissatisfied will always scream louder than the satisfied. We're naturally resistant to change.

    Keep doing your thing ZOS.

    You are all here by free will. You may leave at any moment you please.

    Warmest regards,
    A player whose class got nerfed to the ground and who is looking forward to a fresh game.

    if you don't like that your salary is reduced by 50% - just leave your job

    if you don't like the new law that increases taxes by 30% - leave the country

    if you don't like your life anymore...

    that is your logic? do nothing just leave?
  • Wayshuba
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    Sorry, have to disagree with the OP here. Many of the dis-satisfied were quite satisfied until were weren't. All you have to do is look at my post history to see, since Feb. 2017 when I have been here, I actually supported and defended the game.

    That changed for me with U23 and U24. Sorry, but there is absolutely no excuse for stuff like this:

    U23 Release Notes:
    Twin Slashes: Increased the Damage over Time from this ability and its morphs by approximately 37%.

    U24 Patch Notes:
    Twin Slashes: Decreased the damage per tick of this ability and its morphs damage over time by approximately 63%.

    There are many examples like this through the patch notes. One patch you are increasing the damage, the next you are reducing below where you increased it from. Furthermore, the SIZE of these changes is what is really making it apparent the combat team is over their head. Five years into a game, there should not be swings of this magnitude. You should also know, through metrics, what DIRECTION your heading in.

    When something goes way up one patch, only to go way down the next patch you know, without doubt, they are not measuring any of this and it is all wild guesses at what might fix things. Instead, we have a complete mess on our hands with U23 and it is about to get even worse with U24.

    I have been down this same thing in other MMOs before - where people get the false impression people being dis-satisfied are in the minority. What is more often the case is people who are dis-satisfied and willing to comment are in the minority while the majority of those dis-satisfied leave without saying a word.

    One has to only go back and look at PTS Patch Notes from U21 and earlier compared to U22 through now to see there has been a massive upswing in dis-satisfaction, and it is getting worse each patch - not better. With U24, this is the absolute worst it's been just upon release of the patch notes. Even long term community supporters and streamers couldn't believe what they are doing with U24.
    Edited by Wayshuba on September 17, 2019 12:06PM
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  • Sandman929
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    I want them to do their thing too, but so far the "audit" has been wild pendulum swinging. Is that their thing?
  • Avrael
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    If they continue to do their thing without listening to their playerbase, they wont make money anymore.

    Simple as that, it will be bad for us and for them if they continue like this. Noone wants to play a game where the devs just play in a sandbox every patch without regard for the people that pay them.
    "I mustache you a question."
    "Well shave it for later."
  • jcm2606
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    A player whose class got nerfed to the ground and who is looking forward to a fresh game.

    You'd have a better chance looking elsewhere for that fresh game, rather than here in ESO.
  • Morgul667
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    The beauty with zos is that you get a brand new game every 3 months
  • Avrael
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    The beauty with zos is that you get a brand new game every 3 months

    A new game that keeps the bugs from the old one and adds even more...
    "I mustache you a question."
    "Well shave it for later."
  • master_vanargand
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    Do you have hope for the next patch?
    Hahahaha, wake up!
    The next is a nerf patch again >:)
  • Reverb
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    Yeah when they nerf the dps by half the playerbase will also drop by half, most of the content will be undoable for most players. Everyone who knows anything about the game know this is a trainwreck.

    Its in thier interest to listen to their playerbase, I never whined about nerfs before, but this time is just complete deal breaker

    I'm gonna go halfway and agree that some content will be undoable for most players. How is that a disaster? To me it sounds like much more of a disaster that all content is doable for most players.

    I’m gonna take your halfway and walk it back some. Currently some content is undoable for most players. In my experience in game, in these forums, and from commenters in Twitch streams I watch, more than half of the player base is currently unable to complete vet dlc dungeons and unable to complete vet trials. That’s true now, with the inflated dps “balance”. The reasons seem to be both inadequate build and inadequate comprehension of combat and mechanics.

    When U24 goes live it will widen that gap, and players who currently can’t complete some content will be unable to complete even more content. Players who barely have enough output to complete moderately difficult content will likely find themselves unable to.

    There’s already a huge gap between average player dps and the output of high performing players. These nerds will widen that gap.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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