Stam DK In 5.2.0

Asgari · September 2019

Now that stam dk dots do no damage at all in PvP and has no access to class burst. Stone fist takes 5 hits for anything to even decent to happen. What am I?

ThePedge · September 2019

Have you tested Stone Fist damage. Meant to be OP

Banana · September 2019

Unhappy

Bashev · September 2019

What is the stone fist damage?

Papachico · September 2019

BOOM BABY

Cously · September 2019

Add the options: Roleplayer, Angler, Decorator.

MartiniDaniels · September 2019

ThePedge wrote: »

Have you tested Stone Fist damage. Meant to be OP

Same damage as any spammable. Huge cost, which negates helping hands. Questionable secondary effect, limited range, easily dodged/los'd cause projectile is very slow.

The_Lex · September 2019

Go Stamden?

sDK: Please stand still while I try to throw 5 rocks at you.

Asgari · September 2019

Tank?

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

Have you tested Stone Fist damage. Meant to be OP

Same damage as any spammable. Huge cost, which negates helping hands. Questionable secondary effect, limited range, easily dodged/los'd cause projectile is very slow.

The average most are seeing are 2-3k .. with a glass cannon setup I could hit 4-5k and then if I did glass cannon with onslaught buff up I could get 7k. It’s like half the damage of whip

Olupajmibanan · September 2019

Papachico wrote: »

BOOM BABY

This. Forget DoTs or Dizzy Swing rubish.

Prepare for PotL instakills!!!

Ashanne · September 2019

u are.... going to get gut

SilverPaws · September 2019

Go Stamden?

Funny that "class identity" update kills the class... I just don't understand how they can push changes like this.. Only show how disconnected they are from the game and from the community..

MartiniDaniels · September 2019

Asgari wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

ThePedge wrote: »

Have you tested Stone Fist damage. Meant to be OP

Same damage as any spammable. Huge cost, which negates helping hands. Questionable secondary effect, limited range, easily dodged/los'd cause projectile is very slow.

The average most are seeing are 2-3k .. with a glass cannon setup I could hit 4-5k and then if I did glass cannon with onslaught buff up I could get 7k. It’s like half the damage of whip

Take a look at DK's snipe (poison morph), it costs ~2k, deals more damage via guaranteed status effect, applies minor defile, procs combustion every 2 seconds, have extremely high range. Here i'm not saying that snipe is good as spammable, but if we compare stamfist to snipe, snipe is much better. So my logic is:
- many ranged spammables are better then stamfist, and still you can't kill anybody experienced with them, so what's the point of stamfist? we need to go melee anyway, and spin2win or even nerfed dizzy looks like better spammable.

So far I'm thinking that stamDK may become some kind of ganker this patch

i mean imagine damage from molten armament min-maxed bow heavy attack (which will stun too ofc) on unsuspecting opponent, then PI for master's proc, snipe, leap, executioner.

constantinus_endanus · September 2019

I play 5 years and my main char is stam DK. Understand something: ALL dots were nerfed! Not the ones of stam DK but ALL! This means ALL classes have the same dot burst reduction. In other words it's a GLOBAL dot nerf, we play the same thing it takes longer for us but for the opponent to kill us! In other words: they want NO solo play but type: lfg!
About our new "spammeble": we are a melee class that just gave us a ranged lol spammable. It's a joke! No bleeds, no poisons! Play your game and stay calm!

Pr0Skygon · September 2019

Or you know, just adapt to the game. I've been trying out spamming Noxious Breath + Ravager lately, and it's a lot of fun.

Gunzork · September 2019

Uninstall?

MartiniDaniels · September 2019

Pr0Skygon wrote: »

Or you know, just adapt to the game. I've been trying out spamming Noxious Breath + Ravager lately, and it's a lot of fun.

It WAS a lot of fun. Noxious not only got dot damage decrease which is not critical, but it got cost increase too. This was really fun spammable, yeah with lower initial damage but cheap and aoe and with higher range.. but with increased cost it simply won't be effective to spam.

SirDopey · September 2019

Tank?

constantinus_endanus wrote: »

I play 5 years and my main char is stam DK. Understand something: ALL dots were nerfed! Not the ones of stam DK but ALL! This means ALL classes have the same dot burst reduction. In other words it's a GLOBAL dot nerf, we play the same thing it takes longer for us but for the opponent to kill us! In other words: they want NO solo play but type: lfg!
About our new "spammeble": we are a melee class that just gave us a ranged lol spammable. It's a joke! No bleeds, no poisons! Play your game and stay calm!

Jump on the PTS bro, all DK stam abilities are doing less damage than monster helm procs in parses....

constantinus_endanus · September 2019

SirDopey wrote: »

constantinus_endanus wrote: »

I play 5 years and my main char is stam DK. Understand something: ALL dots were nerfed! Not the ones of stam DK but ALL! This means ALL classes have the same dot burst reduction. In other words it's a GLOBAL dot nerf, we play the same thing it takes longer for us but for the opponent to kill us! In other words: they want NO solo play but type: lfg!
About our new "spammeble": we are a melee class that just gave us a ranged lol spammable. It's a joke! No bleeds, no poisons! Play your game and stay calm!

Jump on the PTS bro, all DK stam abilities are doing less damage than monster helm procs in parses....

1) who prevents you to also use monster sets?
2) never discuss with me for pve, i simply do not care, all my posts are pvp based

Ecfigies · September 2019

Prepare to be fisted, the fury fisted build.

susmitds · September 2019

Go Stamden?

It has the same tooltip as Surprise Attack. But the thing is that it is too slow to reliably land on anybody. Also StamDKs dont build for as much damage as StamNBs so there's that.

I seriously hope they fix the DoT standard to something like 1.8 times a spammable(which it was mostly before the changes to DoTs previous patch).

Asgari · September 2019

Tank?

constantinus_endanus wrote: »

SirDopey wrote: »

constantinus_endanus wrote: »

I play 5 years and my main char is stam DK. Understand something: ALL dots were nerfed! Not the ones of stam DK but ALL! This means ALL classes have the same dot burst reduction. In other words it's a GLOBAL dot nerf, we play the same thing it takes longer for us but for the opponent to kill us! In other words: they want NO solo play but type: lfg!
About our new "spammeble": we are a melee class that just gave us a ranged lol spammable. It's a joke! No bleeds, no poisons! Play your game and stay calm!

Jump on the PTS bro, all DK stam abilities are doing less damage than monster helm procs in parses....

1) who prevents you to also use monster sets?
2) never discuss with me for pve, i simply do not care, all my posts are pvp based

Jump on pts and see what it’s like to pvp as an sDK now. None of the class toolkit makes sense.

Healing is still very strong for all classes so burst is even more important and sDK has none.

You have dizzy and that’s it.

Vermethys · September 2019

If you're using S&B like most StamDKs, there's almost zero reason to use Noxious Breath now -- Pathetic DoT damage, average initial hit, misses often against agile builds when you have 200+ ping, not cost-effective at all. Its only use would be to reveal NBs of average skill, but even then it's probably going to drain your stamina fast. You're better off using Ransack for Fracture and Minor Protection.

Stone Fist as a spammable sounds nice at first because of slightly higher ultimate generation and easier access to Minor Brutality, but Power Slam (and to a smaller degree, Silver Shards) is much, much better.

I'm not sure how the proposed changes enforce or improve DK class identity tbh.

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