How do I meaningfully block a person on the forum?

redgreensunset · September 2019

Putting this here as tjis forum does have a general/forum/off topic section.

Question in the title. Yes this forum has a block option, or so it falsely claims. Even if I block someone I can still see their threads and they can see mine. And while their replies in a thread is kinda shaded over and I have to click it if I want to see it, they can still view my responses. Really it would be far more honest to just delete the so called but not really block option if that is all it does.
So is there a way to in a meaningful way block people on this forum?

And before some funny fellow chips in, no I don't mean moderators.

Kadoin · September 2019

click their name, and on their profile there is an icon with a person and an arrow. Click "ignore"

EDIT: Upper right, under the search bar, near the message button.

idk · September 2019

If you are going to create a thread or make a post in someone else's thread then you are asking for it to be available for all to see by basic definition of participating in the forums.

So when you block someone you actually have to actively choose to see their post unless it is the first post in a thread they create. It also blocks them from sending you mail, iirc.

That is as far as it goes and as far as it should go.

VaranisArano · September 2019

I don't believe so, unfortunately. I think its the default ignore (can see everything except replies) and moderator action.

Its rather lacking in utility, a little like the in-game ignore function.

ChunkyCat · September 2019

Why would you do this to me?

Elsonso · September 2019

No.

At best, you can block them so that you do not see replies. I don't think it works for discussions, still. That means that if they start a discussion, you will see it.

Nothing you do blocks them from seeing What you do, sorry.

NoodleESO · September 2019

ChunkyCat wrote: »

Why would you do this to me?

*plays "My Heart Will Go On" with a recorder *

Dusk_Coven · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

Even if I block someone I can still see their threads and they can see mine.

Probably because you haven't actually blocked them even though you went through the steps. There's a limit of 12 (?) persons on your block list. So trying to ignore more than that does nothing.

redgreensunset · September 2019

Kadoin wrote: »

click their name, and on their profile there is an icon with a person and an arrow. Click "ignore"

EDIT: Upper right, under the search bar, near the message button.

Which produces the result described in my OP. Not what I'm looking for. I meant one where I will never see this person again, or anything they write.

jainiadral · September 2019

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

Even if I block someone I can still see their threads and they can see mine.

Probably because you haven't actually blocked them even though you went through the steps. There's a limit of 12 (?) persons on your block list. So trying to ignore more than that does nothing.

Nope. You can always see their threads and vice versa. The "ignore" function on this forum is very limited. If someone else quotes the person you've blocked, you can see that too.

Hazurko_RaShan · September 2019

To quote the poet Adrea Gibson, 'Insanity isn't seeing people who arent there but refusing to see the ones who are.'

redgreensunset · September 2019

idk wrote: »

If you are going to create a thread or make a post in someone else's thread then you are asking for it to be available for all to see by basic definition of participating in the forums.

So when you block someone you actually have to actively choose to see their post unless it is the first post in a thread they create. It also blocks them from sending you mail, iirc.

That is as far as it goes and as far as it should go.

Here's the thing though, I do not want to see their OPs either. There's a couple of people on here I never want to interact with again, ever. And my memory for names aren't really that grand so I put them on ignore so I can recall not to do that and really, not clicking to look at their bs in the comments is easy. That's the main problem, I really care less if they can see and interact with my stuff. It would be a nice bonus and all, but it's very secondary. But I wish the ignore/block function extended to OPs so I didn't have to see those either.

Eirinin · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

click their name, and on their profile there is an icon with a person and an arrow. Click "ignore"

EDIT: Upper right, under the search bar, near the message button.

Which produces the result described in my OP. Not what I'm looking for. I meant one where I will never see this person again, or anything they write.

I don't think that's possible as things stand now. Plus if someone quoted them or references the blocked person's post, how would the system handle this?

Hazurko_RaShan · September 2019

this read is 6 year old do adjust accordingly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cbnxz1Qii4

bearbelly · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

But I wish the ignore/block function extended to OPs so I didn't have to see those either.

I don't know of any forum software that has that capability; at least any of the various software at the several gaming forums I have been a part of.
And I do agree, it is frustrating that you can't block/ignore OPs.

Edaphon · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

So is there a way to in a meaningful way block people on this forum?

Sadly, there isn't.

You have to wait for them to become class reps, fail miserably at that job and then go completely nuts. After that they get themselves banned and you can enjoy the silence.

Works every time.

bearbelly · September 2019

Edaphon wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

So is there a way to in a meaningful way block people on this forum?

Sadly, there isn't.

You have to wait for them to become class reps, fail miserably at that job and then go completely nuts. After that they get themselves banned and you can enjoy the silence.

Works every time.

zyk · September 2019

It's unrealistic to expect that ignoring someone would result in them not being able to see your posts. It's a public forum akin to a public place. You can choose to ignore someone standing next to you, but you can't make not hear what you say in public.

There's nothing wrong with the current ignore system. What you desire is an overreach.

Jeremy · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

Putting this here as tjis forum does have a general/forum/off topic section.

Question in the title. Yes this forum has a block option, or so it falsely claims. Even if I block someone I can still see their threads and they can see mine. And while their replies in a thread is kinda shaded over and I have to click it if I want to see it, they can still view my responses. Really it would be far more honest to just delete the so called but not really block option if that is all it does.
So is there a way to in a meaningful way block people on this forum?

And before some funny fellow chips in, no I don't mean moderators.

Yeah this has always been an issue for me on internet forums as well. Typically putting a troll on ignore does nothing but give them free reign to continue trolling you behind your back. So it's not very effective and essentially just robs you of the opportunity to defend yourself (assuming you don't read the hidden or obscured text). So it's mostly useless.

It would work better if placing a poster on ignore prevented them from being able to read your comments as well. That way the conversation between you and the identified nuisance would be shut down completely - which is what the block function should do. So I'm with you.

That being said: this is less of an issue on this forum because it's so heavily moderated. So if you're worried about someone you blocked taking advantage of the situation and trashing or lying about you behind your back, I wouldn't be too concerned about that.

Jayman1000 · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

Putting this here as tjis forum does have a general/forum/off topic section.

Question in the title. Yes this forum has a block option, or so it falsely claims. Even if I block someone I can still see their threads and they can see mine. And while their replies in a thread is kinda shaded over and I have to click it if I want to see it, they can still view my responses. Really it would be far more honest to just delete the so called but not really block option if that is all it does.
So is there a way to in a meaningful way block people on this forum?

And before some funny fellow chips in, no I don't mean moderators.

Why do you not like that their comments are shadowed and hidden when you ignore? It fulfills the purpose, their comments are ignored to you; you cant see them. I dont understand the problem. The other way around that you cant block them from seeing your comments is fair imo, you shouldnt have the power to block out others from reading your comments on this forum. This can be abused imo, to block out people that didnt do anything wrong.

Ackwalan · September 2019

How dare people continue to exist once you have blocked them. Who do they think they are!?

VaranisArano · September 2019

To everyone going "Why would you want to block someone completely?"

Think about it. What sort of behavior would cause you to want to cut off contact with someone else on these forums AND prevent them from seeing what you were doing on the forum, without having to beg a moderator to intervene before it gets dealt with?

Its not a mystery. Nor, with only 12 ignore spots, is it something that would be overused or have a horrific impact on communication in this forum.

zyk · September 2019

VaranisArano wrote: »

To everyone going "Why would you want to block someone completely?"

Think about it. What sort of behavior would cause you to want to cut off contact with someone else on these forums AND prevent them from seeing what you were doing on the forum, without having to beg a moderator to intervene before it gets dealt with?

Its not a mystery. Nor, with only 12 ignore spots, is it something that would be overused or have a horrific impact on communication in this forum.

I understand why someone would want that power. It's just flat out unrealistic.

First of all, it's impossible because an account is not required to read posts.

But regardless, it's also a bad idea because it can be so easily abused. For example, by ignoring someone and then posting lies about them that they can't read.

Finally, it's unethical because it involves one one peer exerting power over another. In this case, preventing them from reading something that was posted in public.

The ignore function does not exist to apply punitive measures to other players. Only the admins can do that. It exists only as a voluntary filter that someone can impose on themselves.

Jeremy · September 2019

VaranisArano wrote: »

To everyone going "Why would you want to block someone completely?"

Think about it. What sort of behavior would cause you to want to cut off contact with someone else on these forums AND prevent them from seeing what you were doing on the forum, without having to beg a moderator to intervene before it gets dealt with?

Its not a mystery. Nor, with only 12 ignore spots, is it something that would be overused or have a horrific impact on communication in this forum.

Yeah I agree. It's not an unreasonable request and would probably be good for forums as a whole - because it would enable people who obviously don't get along to simply stop all communication between one another.

dtsharples · September 2019

There is a spas with a name like hung that many of us ignore, response is always that of a rtarted toddler.
If you put someone on ignore here they are immediately also banned for you, blocked. They can't contact you in any way. if you go out of your way to contact them personally thats up to you

Jayman1000 · September 2019

VaranisArano wrote: »

To everyone going "Why would you want to block someone completely?"

Think about it. What sort of behavior would cause you to want to cut off contact with someone else on these forums AND prevent them from seeing what you were doing on the forum, without having to beg a moderator to intervene before it gets dealt with?

Its not a mystery. Nor, with only 12 ignore spots, is it something that would be overused or have a horrific impact on communication in this forum.

You assume that someone getting blocked has ALWAYS acted in some terrible way. If you just think a little about that it should become apparent how this will most certainly not always be the case. You'll have scenarios where someone blocks out someone else entirely simply because they voiced an opinion they didnt like; and as such would effectively become a way to shut out people whose opinions you didn't like. That must never be the function of a ignore function in a public forum.

Loralai_907 · September 2019

Learn something new everyday. I didn't know you could even partially block people on the forums lol. Luckily for me, the only human I would even consider doing that with doesn't forum (don't think they even play anymore either) so its a non issue. But I don't care about the differing of opinions or people getting snarky with me so it wouldn't have even crossed my mind that I didn't want to even LOOK at their opinions ever again! BUT, with that one person, it was an irl safety issue, if it crossed over to here too I would have been VERY upset and absolutely would NOT want them to see anything I said or see anything they said, so would probably have left to keep me safe from any further bs from them.

idk · September 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

idk wrote: »

If you are going to create a thread or make a post in someone else's thread then you are asking for it to be available for all to see by basic definition of participating in the forums.

So when you block someone you actually have to actively choose to see their post unless it is the first post in a thread they create. It also blocks them from sending you mail, iirc.

That is as far as it goes and as far as it should go.

Here's the thing though, I do not want to see their OPs either. There's a couple of people on here I never want to interact with again, ever. And my memory for names aren't really that grand so I put them on ignore so I can recall not to do that and really, not clicking to look at their bs in the comments is easy. That's the main problem, I really care less if they can see and interact with my stuff. It would be a nice bonus and all, but it's very secondary. But I wish the ignore/block function extended to OPs so I didn't have to see those either.

If you do not remember their name then how is seeing their OP an issue?

But seriously, if you notice the person who created the thread was on your ignore list then close that thread. If you see a post grayed out showing that the person is on your ignore list do not click on it.

The ignore list is so they cannot troll you and if you cannot see their posts then you lose the power to report them for trolling you. At that you should not have the right to prevent them from seeing your comments made in what is essentially a public forum. In other words, there is good reason for you to be able to choose to see what they post.

spartaxoxo · September 2019

zyk wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

To everyone going "Why would you want to block someone completely?"

Think about it. What sort of behavior would cause you to want to cut off contact with someone else on these forums AND prevent them from seeing what you were doing on the forum, without having to beg a moderator to intervene before it gets dealt with?

Its not a mystery. Nor, with only 12 ignore spots, is it something that would be overused or have a horrific impact on communication in this forum.

I understand why someone would want that power. It's just flat out unrealistic.

First of all, it's impossible because an account is not required to read posts.

But regardless, it's also a bad idea because it can be so easily abused. For example, by ignoring someone and then posting lies about them that they can't read.

Finally, it's unethical because it involves one one peer exerting power over another. In this case, preventing them from reading something that was posted in public.

The ignore function does not exist to apply punitive measures to other players. Only the admins can do that. It exists only as a voluntary filter that someone can impose on themselves.

This. Right. Here.

To add, If what they did wasn't bad enough to deserve moderator attention, it also wasn't bad enough that you should be able to randomly exert power over them.

redgreensunset · September 2019

idk wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

idk wrote: »

If you are going to create a thread or make a post in someone else's thread then you are asking for it to be available for all to see by basic definition of participating in the forums.

So when you block someone you actually have to actively choose to see their post unless it is the first post in a thread they create. It also blocks them from sending you mail, iirc.

That is as far as it goes and as far as it should go.

Here's the thing though, I do not want to see their OPs either. There's a couple of people on here I never want to interact with again, ever. And my memory for names aren't really that grand so I put them on ignore so I can recall not to do that and really, not clicking to look at their bs in the comments is easy. That's the main problem, I really care less if they can see and interact with my stuff. It would be a nice bonus and all, but it's very secondary. But I wish the ignore/block function extended to OPs so I didn't have to see those either.

If you do not remember their name then how is seeing their OP an issue?

But seriously, if you notice the person who created the thread was on your ignore list then close that thread. If you see a post grayed out showing that the person is on your ignore list do not click on it.

The ignore list is so they cannot troll you and if you cannot see their posts then you lose the power to report them for trolling you. At that you should not have the right to prevent them from seeing your comments made in what is essentially a public forum. In other words, there is good reason for you to be able to choose to see what they post.

Because they tend to get on my nerves when I read them, that's why. Which increases the chance of me leaving a snarky reply, making both of us aggravated.

Also how is it that they can't troll me when they're perfectly capable of seeing anything I write in the forum?

Funny thing though I'm not even talking about forum trolls, just people who get on my nerves for one reason or another and it would serve both of us if I couldn't see them. But apparently you're against minimizing pissiness on gaming forums. Got it.

redgreensunset · September 2019

In conclusion this thread shows exactly how entitled some players are. Like I didn't know that already.