[Possible Spoiler] Summerset's policy on civilized vampires

Dusk_Coven · August 2019

In Murder in Lillandril, is fear of Norasea being hunted down actually unfounded considering Cunodir is freely walking about in the Lillandril Mages Guild and is clearly (?) a vampire?

Haywire30 · August 2019

I can't help but get the impression that the only reason that Cunodir is tolerated is because he's part of the Mages Guild and they vouch for him. Without the Mages Guild, I can't see it working out for him in Summerset, given their utter hatred of all things Daedric.

Korah_Eaglecry · August 2019

Vampires are abominations and their origins are found in the acts of Daedra. I would say that Norasea has it right that the Divine Prosecution would hunt them down for sure. If not some mercenary vampire hunters.

Konstant_Tel_Necris · August 2019

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

In Murder in Lillandril, is fear of Norasea being hunted down actually unfounded considering Cunodir is freely walking about in the Lillandril Mages Guild and is clearly (?) a vampire?

He really good on hiding his affliction on plain sight lol, perhaps initial dev idea was in that's Haladan use blood samples from Cunodir rather than synthesized it from scratch for curative?

psychotrip · September 2019

I think we can just chalk this one up to bad / inconsistent writing and call it a day. The Altmer have gone back and forth so many times in their tolerance for daedric magic or necromancy it makes your head spin.

In one ESO quest summoning an atronach is described as a death sentence, and yet the mages guild around the corner is presumably doing that all the time. I mean...do Altmer sorcerers just not exist canonically? Why do Altmer get a bonus to conjuration in every other game if they never use it?

In older lore, necromancy was fine so long as the goal was extending the altmer lifespan "even further" (also retconned since altmer dont live any longer than other elves). In current lore, any form of necromancy is always bad no matter what...except when its not (remember that ghost merchant in Skywatch?)

https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Nerassil_the_Bound

It's nonsense. It's all nonsense. Don't even bother.

SirAxen · September 2019

I think a lot of this comes down to trying to place the mindset of an entire people onto one individuals actions. A lot of people make this mistake when claiming one thing is lore friendly and another thing is not. People forget individualism. One Altmer's beliefs or outlook doesn't mean ALL Altmer feel that way, Same goes for any other race.

Dusk_Coven · September 2019

SirAxen wrote: »

I think a lot of this comes down to trying to place the mindset of an entire people onto one individuals actions. A lot of people make this mistake when claiming one thing is lore friendly and another thing is not. People forget individualism. One Altmer's beliefs or outlook doesn't mean ALL Altmer feel that way, Same goes for any other race.

Sure. But Norasea is basically bringing up a matter of law which would be enforced by the Divine Prosecution. That's beyond individualism.

psychotrip · September 2019

SirAxen wrote: »

I think a lot of this comes down to trying to place the mindset of an entire people onto one individuals actions. A lot of people make this mistake when claiming one thing is lore friendly and another thing is not. People forget individualism. One Altmer's beliefs or outlook doesn't mean ALL Altmer feel that way, Same goes for any other race.

Its not a matter of what ALL altmer think. Its a matter of being remotely consistent about what is supposedly a major aspect of their society on the whole. If the game didnt make a big deal about it then neither would the player. But we're told that this is an aspect of their society. Yet it's so inconsistent that it becomes noise. That's the opposite of good worldbuilding.

SirAxen · September 2019

psychotrip wrote: »

SirAxen wrote: »

I think a lot of this comes down to trying to place the mindset of an entire people onto one individuals actions. A lot of people make this mistake when claiming one thing is lore friendly and another thing is not. People forget individualism. One Altmer's beliefs or outlook doesn't mean ALL Altmer feel that way, Same goes for any other race.

Its not a matter of what ALL altmer think. Its a matter of being remotely consistent about what is supposedly a major aspect of their society on the whole. If the game didnt make a big deal about it then neither would the player. But we're told that this is an aspect of their society. Yet it's so inconsistent that it becomes noise. That's the opposite of good worldbuilding.

To be fair, you're constantly bagging ESO just because the canon of this universe doesn't line up with your personal head canon. You'll excuse me if I take your comments with a grain of salt when I see them. This universe is literally built on the foundations of inconsistency, it always has been even WELL before ESO ever existed. ESO takes place in the 2nd ERA, and is many many moons before any of the single player games.