This is a problem we all have with almost all big homes not just this one and this have been talked a lot yet and ZOS replied that because of performance issues and making things even with console player they haven't found a solution yet to increase the 700 item limit.

On the other side, a lot of people now look it in a different way: I take a lot of skill and art to actually decorate within the limit of 700 and still create something amazing and a lot of people do do that and the results are amazing.

I still think that most homes need more space but meanwhile, you can already do something great.

I won't be getting Moon Sugar Meadow because the 700 item limit for a home of this size when it is completely blank-slate/open, and is not available to be purchased for gold (is crown-only) is frankly ridiculous.

And this is why I don't get the biggest homes. All sized homes would benefit from an increase in items, but the biggest ones just typically end up looking empty and half done, despite the decorator's best efforts.

Casterial wrote: »

Gahmerdohn wrote: »

This is a problem we all have with almost all big homes not just this one and this have been talked a lot yet and ZOS replied that because of performance issues and making things even with console player they haven't found a solution yet to increase the 700 item limit.

On the other side, a lot of people now look it in a different way: I take a lot of skill and art to actually decorate within the limit of 700 and still create something amazing and a lot of people do do that and the results are amazing.

I still think that most homes need more space but meanwhile, you can already do something great.

The solution is limit console to 700, let PC go 1000.

This would be a great solution, since it is already a different game of pc and console, if because of the consoles we have limitations, installs two different mechanics and limitations.

Well let's wait and see until after all the performance improvements perhaps yes?

Nothing is going to happen, or even be considered, until after all that has settled down yes.

The meadow could indeed do with many, many more slots.

This one has more plans and one day, should the limit be increased, she is ready and waiting to go absolutely nuts in Claws Meadow Village.

For now we work with what we have. If you feel the limit is offputting then just choose a small part of the meadow and work with that for now. Surround your chosen part with trees and assume the rest is impassable jungle for now.

It's a great place. Don't let the item limit put you off.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Engte wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Gahmerdohn wrote: »

This is a problem we all have with almost all big homes not just this one and this have been talked a lot yet and ZOS replied that because of performance issues and making things even with console player they haven't found a solution yet to increase the 700 item limit.

On the other side, a lot of people now look it in a different way: I take a lot of skill and art to actually decorate within the limit of 700 and still create something amazing and a lot of people do do that and the results are amazing.

I still think that most homes need more space but meanwhile, you can already do something great.

The solution is limit console to 700, let PC go 1000.

This would be a great solution, since it is already a different game of pc and console, if because of the consoles we have limitations, installs two different mechanics and limitations.

It’s highly doubtful that console limitations alone are the reason why the item limit is set to 700. Remember that MMOs are designed with appeal to the masses in mind. The masses do not generally play ESO with a state of the art liquid cooled gaming PC. If you’re going to blame and discriminate against console users, then you need to blame and discriminate against people playing ESO on low-end laptops and desktops as well.

There is a simple work around that ZOS could do that would increase available space and have 0 impact on current performance. And that would be to remove the collections and special collections slots as unique furniture slots and then add those slots to the general furniture limit. It would also have the added benefit of allowing players to place as many collectibles as they want/have.

Casterial wrote: »

Kiyakotari wrote: »

I won't be getting Moon Sugar Meadow because the 700 item limit for a home of this size when it is completely blank-slate/open, and is not available to be purchased for gold (is crown-only) is frankly ridiculous.

Must be new, because most limited homes are like this.....


But yes, the 700 item homes are limited. I own the island, I did a lot with it, but I still have an entire area sectioned off lol

I'm fully aware that most homes that have been released recently have been Crown-only releases. However, when the Moon Sugar Meadow was described in the Crown Store Announcement, the description was similar to that of the Coldharbour Surreal Estate. Likewise, the Coldharbour Surreal Estate and the Moon Sugar Meadow are both "blank slate" style homes that are intended to provide a place for players to build their own creations. And yet when Coldharbour Surreal Estate was released, it was available for both Crowns and in-game gold. As such, it wasn't unreasonable to think that the Moon Sugar Meadow might be similarly released as both a Crown purchasable and gold purchasable home.

EDIT: It's also worth noting that Moon Sugar Meadow is not a time-limited release home. Like the Coldharbour Surreal Estate, it is available for purchase until ZOS decides to pull it, and for now there is no indication that they will be doing that any time soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYxJt0uXr1Y

Jaraal wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Engte wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Gahmerdohn wrote: »

This is a problem we all have with almost all big homes not just this one and this have been talked a lot yet and ZOS replied that because of performance issues and making things even with console player they haven't found a solution yet to increase the 700 item limit.

On the other side, a lot of people now look it in a different way: I take a lot of skill and art to actually decorate within the limit of 700 and still create something amazing and a lot of people do do that and the results are amazing.

I still think that most homes need more space but meanwhile, you can already do something great.

The solution is limit console to 700, let PC go 1000.

This would be a great solution, since it is already a different game of pc and console, if because of the consoles we have limitations, installs two different mechanics and limitations.

It’s highly doubtful that console limitations alone are the reason why the item limit is set to 700. Remember that MMOs are designed with appeal to the masses in mind. The masses do not generally play ESO with a state of the art liquid cooled gaming PC. If you’re going to blame and discriminate against console users, then you need to blame and discriminate against people playing ESO on low-end laptops and desktops as well.

A home is an instanced zone, and large homes have multiple instanced mini-zones within them. It's not a "performance issue," or else they wouldn't keep releasing more and more data intensive particle animated furnishings. The 700 item cap is a bogus arbitrary number, which they have never actually explained the reason for.

Hop over to the housing forum. It has actually been explained quite efficiently.

Jaraal wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Engte wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Gahmerdohn wrote: »

This is a problem we all have with almost all big homes not just this one and this have been talked a lot yet and ZOS replied that because of performance issues and making things even with console player they haven't found a solution yet to increase the 700 item limit.

On the other side, a lot of people now look it in a different way: I take a lot of skill and art to actually decorate within the limit of 700 and still create something amazing and a lot of people do do that and the results are amazing.

I still think that most homes need more space but meanwhile, you can already do something great.

The solution is limit console to 700, let PC go 1000.

This would be a great solution, since it is already a different game of pc and console, if because of the consoles we have limitations, installs two different mechanics and limitations.

It’s highly doubtful that console limitations alone are the reason why the item limit is set to 700. Remember that MMOs are designed with appeal to the masses in mind. The masses do not generally play ESO with a state of the art liquid cooled gaming PC. If you’re going to blame and discriminate against console users, then you need to blame and discriminate against people playing ESO on low-end laptops and desktops as well.

A home is an instanced zone, and large homes have multiple instanced mini-zones within them. It's not a "performance issue," or else they wouldn't keep releasing more and more data intensive particle animated furnishings. The 700 item cap is a bogus arbitrary number, which they have never actually explained the reason for.

I agree with you 100%! I did a test for a video a while ago, and I placed 700 animated objects, lights and other intensive ones side by side, my fps did drop and things did stop working, but then I did the same thing with plates and spoons, and of course all was fine. I feel like different objects should have a different cost when it comes to the item limits in the game. Maybe a huge animated object would cost 2 slots, but a spoon would cost 1/8 of a slot, etc. That way we could fill our homes without breaking the game

More spaces would be lovely and I really do hope they do that for us eventually. But when you know what your limit is, you just have to start small and build up from it. I know a beautiful big place like that is just begging for grand designs, and you can do that with the right pieces, it just takes a bit of practice to figure out what you can substitute for something that might take many pieces. And it can be expensive, but there's also no rush! Take your time building and enjoy it...every piece you add is a new feature to be proud of yourself for.

barney2525 wrote: »

They need to have a new category - Extra Large House item

so you can place a full size Dragon

not a statue, a Dragon

You wouldn't be short of manure for your garden...

zaria wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

Engte wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Gahmerdohn wrote: »

This is a problem we all have with almost all big homes not just this one and this have been talked a lot yet and ZOS replied that because of performance issues and making things even with console player they haven't found a solution yet to increase the 700 item limit.

On the other side, a lot of people now look it in a different way: I take a lot of skill and art to actually decorate within the limit of 700 and still create something amazing and a lot of people do do that and the results are amazing.

I still think that most homes need more space but meanwhile, you can already do something great.

The solution is limit console to 700, let PC go 1000.

This would be a great solution, since it is already a different game of pc and console, if because of the consoles we have limitations, installs two different mechanics and limitations.

It’s highly doubtful that console limitations alone are the reason why the item limit is set to 700. Remember that MMOs are designed with appeal to the masses in mind. The masses do not generally play ESO with a state of the art liquid cooled gaming PC. If you’re going to blame and discriminate against console users, then you need to blame and discriminate against people playing ESO on low-end laptops and desktops as well.

the 700 limit is weird anyway and is probably not console performance, You can add 350 large and complex items like large trees and 350 light sources or you cold have 700 tiny and simple items.

Houses are instances who is created then you enter, probably much the same as dungeons or trials except that you have to load the furniture and the placed furniture has to be stored on server however its just item id, position and rotation who has to be stored so not much more than 50 bytes each item.

To the server a spoon and a large bed are just a few numbers. What the object looks like doesn't matter much if at all. The server has to know each items location in respect to your character and all other items in the area. With a dungeon the server doesn't need to know the location of each object because what looks like several objects is only one object. The only things the dungeon instance really has to consider is the objects your character can interact with. A table with four mugs, four plates, and some food in a dungeon is one item. In your home it could be twenty or more items. Where each item is in relation to the other nineteen is important.

Giving us more items for each home is something that has been requested since the day we got homes. It is a popular idea among a large chunk of the player population. A population that is willing to spend a lot of crowns decorating those homes. ZoS is a business and their purpose in the end is profit. If they could give us more slots in an effective manner they would do so. It would be good business to do so.

Gahmerdohn wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYxJt0uXr1Y

This is an awesome and beautiful home, really love what you've done it.

And its a great example of what can be done with that space.