I haven't received a 50 crystal Transmute Geode in months... Was Imperial City gimped by ZOS?

Jeremy · September 2019

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I just realized it has been months since I have received a big 50 stone Transmutation Geode as a canpaign reward. Is this because I only play in the Imperial City? If the reason is because IC is no longer considered a "campaign" in the Alliance War, I'm going to go nuts.

ZOS, those of us who are fighting for our faction in the Imperial City are putting are our lives on the line every day. We deserve the same rewards (at least) as the zerglings and ball groups who infest upstate Cyrodiil!

This glaring and unjust imbalance needs to be fixed ASAP, preferably via a hot patch.

They should really consider adding a campaign reward to Imperial City - especially since they are working on ways to make it more popular. That might actually tempt me to go in there at least a few times a month if they did.

I'd probably end up regretting it. But the gold and crystals from a tier3 reward are pretty decent and would help make my stay in the place feel more productive - even if I was being mowed down by zergs every few minutes. At least I know I'd get something for my trouble in the end. So this is one of the better suggestions I've read on how to make Imperial City more worthwhile. Hope the devs read your post.

Insco851 · September 2019

@Emma_Overload

Unless I’m mistaken on actual AP amounts- you only need to jump into Cyrodiil and get tier 1 rewards unlocked. Which comes at the cost of 20k ap IIRC.

Though, they recently further nerfed the geode drops. I used to get 2 per toon. I only get one now at end of campaign. And I typically always level to tier three so someone else should verify if tier 1 still gets transmutes.

Emma_Overload · September 2019

Insco851 wrote: »

@Emma_Overload

Unless I’m mistaken on actual AP amounts- you only need to jump into Cyrodiil and get tier 1 rewards unlocked. Which comes at the cost of 20k ap IIRC.

Though, they recently further nerfed the geode drops. I used to get 2 per toon. I only get one now at end of campaign. And I typically always level to tier three so someone else should verify if tier 1 still gets transmutes.

Thanks for pointing this out. Yeah, obviously that's my best option until this issue is resolved, if ever. It's the principle of the thing that bothers me, not the anticipated effort/boredom of playing in upstate Cyrodiil.

Naftal · September 2019

Insco851 wrote: »

@Emma_Overload

Unless I’m mistaken on actual AP amounts- you only need to jump into Cyrodiil and get tier 1 rewards unlocked. Which comes at the cost of 20k ap IIRC.

Though, they recently further nerfed the geode drops. I used to get 2 per toon. I only get one now at end of campaign. And I typically always level to tier three so someone else should verify if tier 1 still gets transmutes.

Yes tier 1 gives them. It requires 25k ap.

Beardimus · September 2019

Emma_Overload wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Yes, IC is disconnected from Cyrodiil faction campaigns now and that's the reason why you don't get your geodes.

Well, if that's true, then they need to FIX that, because we are fighting just as hard, if not harder, down here.

It's true, 100%.

It makes sense i think but be great tp have a form of ranking down there.
Kills or AP based or Tel var haul or something

heaven13 · September 2019

Insco851 wrote: »

@Emma_Overload

Unless I’m mistaken on actual AP amounts- you only need to jump into Cyrodiil and get tier 1 rewards unlocked. Which comes at the cost of 20k ap IIRC.

Though, they recently further nerfed the geode drops. I used to get 2 per toon. I only get one now at end of campaign. And I typically always level to tier three so someone else should verify if tier 1 still gets transmutes.

I think someone said earlier you get 2 if your alliance wins the campaign. Has your alliance not been winning in your home campaign? That might explain the change?

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

you get "end of campaign rewards" at the end the Cyrodil campaign you have made your home. (either 7 day or 30 day) IC is no longer connected to any Cyrodil campaigns. Also, when exactly does the IC campaign end? It does not. Therefore, why would you get "end of campaign rewards" for IC?

To get the 50 transmute crystals, IC would have to have leaderboards and reset every 30 days. It does not. It was changed a while ago by ZOS. If you want it changed again, you need to talk to ZOS.

This is exactly it. There is nothing to win in IC. You can flip flags (just like flipping keeps) but there is no score attached to them, unlike keeps. District capture only affects your telvar gain. IC is a continuous back and forth with no end/beginning so there are no end-of-campaign rewards because there is no 'campaign'. It seems pretty clear and straightforward to me.

zaria · September 2019

Emma_Overload wrote: »

agegarton wrote: »

I’m afraid you no longer earn alliance reward levels or end of campaign rewards for your efforts in Imperial City or the Sewers beneath.

It seems the Generals have withdrawn support for forces in the area, preferring to focus on the infrastructure in Cyrodiil.

You’re on your own. May Meridia protect you.

Apparently so, but ZOS needs to rectify this, because those Generals don't what they're doing, LOL.

Winning control of the City has always been important in Elder Scrolls lore. This fact should be reflected in the monthly rewards.

The problem is that the geodes is linked to getting tire one on the score board in you home campaign. Doing PvP in other campaigns including the IC ones don't improve you campaign score.
But getting them is fast, you only need 15K AP i believe.

Emma_Overload · September 2019

heaven13 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

@Emma_Overload

Unless I’m mistaken on actual AP amounts- you only need to jump into Cyrodiil and get tier 1 rewards unlocked. Which comes at the cost of 20k ap IIRC.

Though, they recently further nerfed the geode drops. I used to get 2 per toon. I only get one now at end of campaign. And I typically always level to tier three so someone else should verify if tier 1 still gets transmutes.

I think someone said earlier you get 2 if your alliance wins the campaign. Has your alliance not been winning in your home campaign? That might explain the change?

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

you get "end of campaign rewards" at the end the Cyrodil campaign you have made your home. (either 7 day or 30 day) IC is no longer connected to any Cyrodil campaigns. Also, when exactly does the IC campaign end? It does not. Therefore, why would you get "end of campaign rewards" for IC?

To get the 50 transmute crystals, IC would have to have leaderboards and reset every 30 days. It does not. It was changed a while ago by ZOS. If you want it changed again, you need to talk to ZOS.

This is exactly it. There is nothing to win in IC. You can flip flags (just like flipping keeps) but there is no score attached to them, unlike keeps. District capture only affects your telvar gain. IC is a continuous back and forth with no end/beginning so there are no end-of-campaign rewards because there is no 'campaign'. It seems pretty clear and straightforward to me.

To someone who plays mostly in the IC like me, this is exactly what Cyrodiil looks like to me: keeps flipping back and forth from red to blue to yellow to red again with no rhyme or reason. Sometimes, in the middle of the night, it might just be ONE guy running around flipping keeps... how is that a more of a benefit to the alliance than actually killing enemy players in the IC? Nothing that goes on in Cyrodiil is qualitatively different, in my opinion, from what goes on in the IC. The fact that ZOS has apparently made the emperor/leaderboard stuff exclusive to Cyrodiil is totally arbitrary.

As others have said, ultimately it will be up to ZOS to address this issue, for better or worse. My hope in starting this thread (and replying to it) is that ZOS will at least acknowledge the issue and state their views on the matter.

JAwtunes · September 2019

IC is mostly RPers who got lost then got ganked over and over. This thread has more PVP than IC.

Emma_Overload · September 2019

JAwtunes wrote: »

IC is mostly RPers who got lost then got ganked over and over. This thread has more PVP than IC.

Not gonna lie, I laughed out loud at this

I think the guys you're describing are the ones in this thread who are mad they can't get Tel Var from killing wolves in Cyrodiil and think City fighters should be punished for this by choking off our supply of Transmute crystals.

Insco851 · September 2019

heaven13 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

@Emma_Overload

Unless I’m mistaken on actual AP amounts- you only need to jump into Cyrodiil and get tier 1 rewards unlocked. Which comes at the cost of 20k ap IIRC.

Though, they recently further nerfed the geode drops. I used to get 2 per toon. I only get one now at end of campaign. And I typically always level to tier three so someone else should verify if tier 1 still gets transmutes.

I think someone said earlier you get 2 if your alliance wins the campaign. Has your alliance not been winning in your home campaign? That might explain the change?

DurzoBlint13 wrote: »

you get "end of campaign rewards" at the end the Cyrodil campaign you have made your home. (either 7 day or 30 day) IC is no longer connected to any Cyrodil campaigns. Also, when exactly does the IC campaign end? It does not. Therefore, why would you get "end of campaign rewards" for IC?

To get the 50 transmute crystals, IC would have to have leaderboards and reset every 30 days. It does not. It was changed a while ago by ZOS. If you want it changed again, you need to talk to ZOS.

This is exactly it. There is nothing to win in IC. You can flip flags (just like flipping keeps) but there is no score attached to them, unlike keeps. District capture only affects your telvar gain. IC is a continuous back and forth with no end/beginning so there are no end-of-campaign rewards because there is no 'campaign'. It seems pretty clear and straightforward to me.

DC on Xbox NA has rekt the last two campaigns actually and I still only got 1 each. Maybe you gotta break the top 100 board now. Which is far from anything I’m trying lately.

MojaveHeld · September 2019

Those geodes were always linked to the end of campaign rewards. That information has never been hidden. If you didn't realize that, it's your fault, not ZOS'. Don't get me wrong, ever since they separated IC from Cyrodiil campaigns, I thought that they should implement some sort of leaderboards, faction score, etc. for it. But they haven't, and you knew that, so getting mad that you're not getting gold geodes from IC when there are no end of campaign rewards for it, makes no sense.

Insco851 · September 2019

JAwtunes wrote: »

IC is mostly RPers who got lost then got ganked over and over. This thread has more PVP than IC.

When it’s not being completely zerged, it’s easily one of the best small scale arenas. It also runs much better than Cyrodiil... the true RPers are PvDooring empty keeps.

ZOS_RogerJ · September 2019

Greetings! We've closed this thread to prevent further derailing. While we completely understand everyone has their own opinions, thoughts, feelings and even frustrations, we want the forums to be a civil and constructive platform for the game and it's community as a whole.