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All skills would be better if they were based on highest stat - cost too.
Saelent
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Please detail thoughts.
All skills would be better if they were based on highest stat - cost too. 85 votes
Yes
23%
20 votes
No
51%
44 votes
Other
2%
2 votes
Go away with your stupid polls
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14 votes
Don’t care generally
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Don’t care, don’t play anymore
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3 votes
This would make me play the game again
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2 votes
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Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoThis is a mechanism used to balance skills, and allowing one's highest stats to always be the variables in the skill co-efficients would cause wild imbalance, at least in the current paradigm.Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast1 -
Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoOriginally, the game was designed so that all abilities used Magicka and physical things used stamina (heavy attacks with physical weapons, not staves, sprinting, roll dodge, block etc). They realised this led the even less diversity than we have now."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard1 -
BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Go away with your stupid pollsThere would be zero reason to ever run magicka, since block, break free, and roll dodge all pull from it. You would just build into that and have all the skills and weapons you want. That would just push the game deeper down the homogenization hole we are in.Edited by BigBragg on September 4, 2019 8:01AM3 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭NoWhat would be the point of having three resources (Health, Magicka and Stamina) if only one would matter?2
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI like being able to utilize my mag pool for skills on stam toon and stam for mitigation on mag toons.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Go away with your stupid pollsThere would be zero reason to ever run magicka, since block, break free, and roll dodge all pull from it. You would just build into that and have all the skills and weapons you want. That would just push the game deeper down the homogenization hole we are in.
Regardless of what exactly would happen, I think it is easy to see there will be unintended consequences of the change OP makes. It may boil down to something as simple as what Bragg here say. The game design is not that simple. Anyone looking for a simple design has come to the wrong place.0 -
TiZzA93✭✭✭This would make me play the game againThe chaos wud be hilarious, soultrap, entropy, bleeds, poison injection, vma bow, vma staff, 3 stam shields XD2
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoEach skill require careful consideration if it should use highest offensive stats, if devs will just roll-out general rule like that it will be a complete mess with enormous amount of broken builds.
But overall direction to make as many skills as possible both for mag/stam is good. We may see that devs are doing this now with every patch for magicka skills, it will be great if some stamina skills and weapons could scale from highest, i.e. magicka offensive stat too.1 -
TheGreatBlackBear✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesNah that's crazy. Imagine a stamplar using jesus beam and having it scale off weapon damage. Sign me up.0 -
Saelent✭✭✭✭✭Otherhuschdeguddzje wrote: »Damage yes, cost no
I like this idea the most, it would make the magicka races viable for stamina weapons while giving help for the magicka costs.0 -
Vlad9425✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I believe we're heading in this direction already. Look at the new Soul Trap, the damage scales from your highest stat and I believe this is the beginning of them changing abilities to this state.0 -
dave2280Soul ShrivenYesVoted yes... Avid boneyard scaling off of physical damage would be a better skill than the old caltrops...
Plus higher uptime on Lokk since we could use our own synergyEdited by dave2280 on September 4, 2019 1:52PM0 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Interesting idea. Elder scrolls was originally known for giving players the freedom to create whatever build they wanted.
The only thing is, the current balance in game is shoddy. But there is variety in its current broken state.
This change could lead to their being 1 broken build to rule them all.0 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesYes, with some additional conditions.
I don't fancy how the scaling and mechanics of this game currently work. The need to stack either magicka or stamina isn't something I like, and it has hampered my creativity and ability to make certain character concepts work for me on more than one occasion. The solution to that problem is more complicated than simply making all skills scale with one's highest stat. And at this point in the game's development, I really doubt that the lead designers are going to back away from the current model to recreate one that isn't so dependent on resource stacking.0 -
snipezor✭✭✭NoWithout really having given much thought to it, I feel like a system where abilities are categorized and damage/heals are used from the major stat resource, and CC comes from the minor stat resource would help facilitate greater build diversity.
And while I'm throwing out ideas that will be poorly received and never implemented, all base movement speed (mounted or on foot) should be reduced by 15%.0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No[sarcasm]What's next, reduce the whole game to a single stat? No, better, decide all combat by coin toss! That's be fair, right?[/sarcasm]
The more diverse a game system is, the more fun things are when building a character, because you have more option which leads to a wider varietee of characters.
Yeah, some people want everything available in each stat, or everything picking the higher stat for... everything. So they would no longer nahevt o worry about anything, but just dump all into one stat and do everything with that - without realizing that this would mean everyone was the same in this setup, build would not matter anymore, and people might as well play a game with premade characters instead of ESO.
Of course, then it would not be a MMORPG anymore, just an MMO adventure game at best.
No thanks!0 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭Don’t care, don’t play anymoreEntropy Engulf Embers Blood Craze DW bleed Carve 2H bleed...
and a soul trap.
Back from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.0 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesBeing able to use hybrids instead of being stuck down this boring magic or stamina bottleneck? Hell yes, sign me up!1 -
Saelent✭✭✭✭✭OtherWaltherCarraway wrote: »Entropy Engulf Embers Blood Craze DW bleed Carve 2H bleed...
and a soul trap.
Don’t worry, apparently that’s being nerfed with Dragonhold if another thread about PAX is anything to go by.0 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoPlease detail thoughts.
If everything used your highest stat, then there would only need to be 1 stat.
No Stamina or Magicka, just "Endurance". No Spell Damage or Weapon Damage, just "Damage"PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc1 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No
Yeah... might as well drop ALL stats, and use level for -everything-. No, wait, we have battle levelling too, so... uhm... use no stats at all, just let everything do exactly the same effect, removing all character differences whatsoever?kathandira wrote: »If everything used your highest stat, then there would only need to be 1 stat.
Exactly what I always rant against when someone comes up with that kind of... idea.
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kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoTheShadowScout wrote: »
Yeah... might as well drop ALL stats, and use level for -everything-. No, wait, we have battle levelling too, so... uhm... use no stats at all, just let everything do exactly the same effect, removing all character differences whatsoever?kathandira wrote: »If everything used your highest stat, then there would only need to be 1 stat.
Exactly what I always rant against when someone comes up with that kind of... idea.
Agreed.
Though, this could easily breach into my tirade about how RPGs with Stats and Gear and such should never have both a PvE and PvP mode. Technically, a streamlined system like this would work well in PvP as it would influence more skill based play rather than stat clutching and FOTM jockying. But it would be make for terribly boring PvE.
Edited by kathandira on September 4, 2019 7:21PMPS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc0