Passives Not Working After Death

Asuna_Meow · April 2014

Currently I can 100% tell you the passives that increase sneak speed do not work any longer after you die, the only way to get them to work is to log out and back on. Dark Stalker and the passive from Concealed Weapon both no longer work once you die.

Daendur · April 2014

Dark stalker should work only at night. Be sure to check it.
Concealed weapon should work when you enter stealth (not crouch, i think)

milonetb16_ESO · April 2014

Actually, Dark Stalkers movement increase is at all times of the day. The thing that only works at night is how fast you enter stealth.

When you die however, both things stop working, and they start working again after you relog or zone.

Turelus · April 2014

This is after 1.0.3?
If you haven't already submit an in game /bug and give as much information as you can.

sinz_xb16_ESO · April 2014

We need more awareness for these issues, because this is probably something that affects a large number a passive buffs.

- Athletics (Medium armor)
- Dark Stalker (Vampire)
- Conceiled Weapon (Nightblade)

These are just some passive buffs that are affected by this bug and these come from three different skill lines. I can only imagine there is an underlying bug causing this and that would mean there will be alot more passive buffs that break on player death that have largely gone unnoticed so far.

Anoteros · April 2014

all vampire and Nightblade passives and most abilities are broken.
There's a fair few threads like this already.
It's disheartening

sinz_xb16_ESO wrote: »

We need more awareness for these issues, because this is probably something that affects a large number a passive buffs.

- Athletics (Medium armor)
- Dark Stalker (Vampire)
- Conceiled Weapon (Nightblade)

These are just some passive buffs that are affected by this bug and these come from three different skill lines. I can only imagine there is an underlying bug causing this and that would mean there will be alot more passive buffs that break on player death that have largely gone unnoticed so far.

Mind you these buggy and broken passive and abilities have been busted since alpha/beta...

sinz_xb16_ESO · April 2014

This is still happening for alot of passives. Bumping for awareness.

LazerusKI · April 2014

yeah...mad a topic about the same issue a few days ago...seems like no one cares

sinz_xb16_ESO wrote: »

We need more awareness for these issues, because this is probably something that affects a large number a passive buffs.

- Athletics (Medium armor)
- Dark Stalker (Vampire)
- Conceiled Weapon (Nightblade)

These are just some passive buffs that are affected by this bug and these come from three different skill lines. I can only imagine there is an underlying bug causing this and that would mean there will be alot more passive buffs that break on player death that have largely gone unnoticed so far.

You can add "Killer Blade" too...after death the 15% health restore wont trigger for a while...could not find out how this bug triggers, jsut noticed it shortly after death and respawn

sinz_xb16_ESO · April 2014

LazerusKI wrote: »

yeah...mad a topic about the same issue a few days ago...seems like no one cares

Yep, which is kind of strange, because most character builds rely on important passive buffs being active. But if over half of those passives aren't working correctly, then how can you play your character properly? Should be a top priority to fix!

starkerealm · April 2014

Top priority at the moment seems to be the bank bug, the goldsellers, and bots. Which kinda makes sense. Those are issues that can't be overlooked.

Asuna_Meow · April 2014

This gonna be an issue when doing Craglorn... you die and guesss what you have to log off to fix your passives >.> gonna waste a lot of time in the trials

sinz_xb16_ESO · April 2014

Yep, Craglorn is going to be just like Cyrodiil. Relogging all the time just to keep your passives working.

They fixed the bank bug though, so hopefully they will now move on to fix this.

sinz_xb16_ESO · April 2014

Still broken in v1.05. Have to relog everytime I die to keep my passive buffs working.

thork · May 2014

This is still an issue, and after extensive testing; this bug effects ALL passives not just stealth speed. The only one you will notice without testing is the stealth speed. This means that after EVERY death in PvP you must relog. This is a game breaking bug that should be #1 on the 'to fix list' as a character's passives.

To clarify, every time you die (even if you're revived) ALL of you character's passives stop working. This also occurs intermittently when teleporting from keep to keep (i.e. using the transport shrine).

We love the game; however, this bug is a huge issue for the hardcore PvP community and is making my guild and myself question the $15 subscription fee.

~Thork

concobar · May 2014

As a player of a NB/Vamp I want to add my support to this thread, Passives stop working after any death, PvP or PvE and do not start working until you either relog or zone to another area. Using the towers to zone within an area will not fix this issue.

Shillen · May 2014

thork wrote: »

This is still an issue, and after extensive testing; this bug effects ALL passives not just stealth speed. The only one you will notice without testing is the stealth speed.

Uh, it's very noticeable for everything to me. When my light armor passives stop working I'm constantly out of magicka. I always realize it within a few minutes.

abluemanb16_ESO · May 2014

The vampire sneak is the first thing I notice which makes me realise that everything is broken and I need to relog.

Still broken as of last night.

thork · May 2014

Shillen wrote: »

Uh, it's very noticeable for everything to me. When my light armor passives stop working I'm constantly out of magicka. I always realize it within a few minutes.

I hear ya brother... I just wanted to ensure they knew it was all passives, as most players would only notice (and therefore only complain about) the stealth speed.

~Thork

mstout7419b14_ESO · May 2014

Ive been posting this issue for at least 2 weeks now.... gets frustrating that everytime I die I must relog, only to get stuck in an infinite load screen. It seems crazy to nerf vamps before we are actually working, and being a nb/vamp your whole toon isnt working properly

hood3311_ESO · May 2014

In my experience, dying as a vampire disables all vampire passives and requires me to re-log for them to reset. This is particularly annoying because the racial passives that severely lower health regen and fire resist remain active while the passives for damage mitigation and increased stamina and magicka regen disappear.

Morbus2 · May 2014

Asuna_Meow wrote: »

Currently I can 100% tell you the passives that increase sneak speed do not work any longer after you die, the only way to get them to work is to log out and back on. Dark Stalker and the passive from Concealed Weapon both no longer work once you die.

Beat the dead horse much?

Many passives haven't worked properly since launch. ZoS is fully aware of it.

They're too busy with new content instead of fixing the old content.

emailgosurwb17_ESO · May 2014

Oh oh, OP. You make them fix the only benefit (bug) of the vampire race

Those passives should work only during night time. But if you relog after each death, you will be having all night passives 24/

Anyway, I am pretty sure they will nerf this instead of fixing classes.

Lickyo · May 2014

Dark stalker - Increases Movement speed while sneaking and allows players to enter stealth more quickly at night.

Pretty sure increased movement speed is all the time

emailgosurwb17_ESO · May 2014

Lickyo wrote: »

Dark stalker - Increases Movement speed while sneaking and allows players to enter stealth more quickly at night.

Pretty sure increased movement speed is all the time

All TESO descriptions are sneaky, you never know how things work for real. Some passives are not mentioned anywhere at all

But I think that skill meant to work at night only.

Contrabardus · May 2014

emailgosurwb17_ESO wrote: »

Lickyo wrote: »

Dark stalker - Increases Movement speed while sneaking and allows players to enter stealth more quickly at night.

Pretty sure increased movement speed is all the time

All TESO descriptions are sneaky, you never know how things work for real. Some passives are not mentioned anywhere at all

But I think that skill meant to work at night only.

It works until you die and then the passive stops working, along with every other passive in the skill line. Doesn't matter if it's day or night.

Currently, when it's working, it works at all hours. It stops working on occasion with fast travel, but death kills it and all other passives every time.

So, whether it should be working at a particular time or not, it's still badly bugged and in need of a fix. Splitting hairs about when it's supposed to work is irrelevant, the skill line is broken regardless of what time it is in the game.

Niliu · May 2014

K, if multiple people are noticing this, then it must not be an isolated thing, however, if all passives broke, how come my NB still runs like the wind when I sprint with the medium armor speed passive after I die?

Heishi · May 2014

Niliu wrote: »

K, if multiple people are noticing this, then it must not be an isolated thing, however, if all passives broke, how come my NB still runs like the wind when I sprint with the medium armor speed passive after I die?

Same here. I agree this seems like a common enough issue, but I haven't ran into it with my nightblades (I have 3 of them). I have a med armor nb using shadow/assassin, a med armor nb using bow and siphon, and a light armor using resto staff and siphon. Also it's notable that the build they featured (dark knight or whatever) was a heavy armor nb.

Edit: Just for posterity I wanted to note each of my nightblades are in each of the three alliances

emailgosurwb17_ESO · May 2014

Contrabardus wrote: »

emailgosurwb17_ESO wrote: »

Lickyo wrote: »

Dark stalker - Increases Movement speed while sneaking and allows players to enter stealth more quickly at night.

Pretty sure increased movement speed is all the time

All TESO descriptions are sneaky, you never know how things work for real. Some passives are not mentioned anywhere at all

But I think that skill meant to work at night only.

It works until you die and then the passive stops working, along with every other passive in the skill line. Doesn't matter if it's day or night.

Currently, when it's working, it works at all hours. It stops working on occasion with fast travel, but death kills it and all other passives every time.

So, whether it should be working at a particular time or not, it's still badly bugged and in need of a fix. Splitting hairs about when it's supposed to work is irrelevant, the skill line is broken regardless of what time it is in the game.

You missed my previous post, I know this since beta and I am reloging before every trip to enemy place

"Oh oh, OP. You make them fix the only benefit (bug) of the vampire race

Those passives should work only during night time. But if you relog after each death, you will be having all night passives 24/

Anyway, I am pretty sure they will nerf this instead of fixing classes."

Note* I am pretty sure only Vampire Passives are disabled after death, nothing wrong with any other passive.

There are many more bugs that I know exist 100% on vampire line.

For example, some of the passives wont work unless you cancel all your skills and re-learn them again on your current level, for example on VR10 I had to cancel and learn same skills to make some passives work correctly. I am afraid some NB/Armor/Weapon passives might have this problem too, so its always better to re-learn your skills on VR10 and see how different are your stats* with exactly same skills learned.

*For example Health Regen and etc.

concobar · May 2014

Lickyo wrote: »

Dark stalker - Increases Movement speed while sneaking and allows players to enter stealth more quickly at night.

Pretty sure increased movement speed is all the time

It is.

ZOS_TristanK · May 2014

We wanted to pop in to let you all know that our Dev team is aware of this issue, and we'll be providing a fix in an upcoming patch. Keep an eye on our patch notes for the more updated details. Thanks!

ferzalrwb17_ESO · May 2014

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

We wanted to pop in to let you all know that our Dev team is aware of this issue, and we'll be providing a fix in an upcoming patch. Keep an eye on our patch notes for the more updated details. Thanks!

This makes a world of difference. It gives us hope. It makes us feel like someone gives a damn. Do it more often please. Of course it goes without saying that it can't just be lip service... eventually it will need to be fixed but, in the meantime, it helps to have the reassurance.