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Option to be useless early game?
Vhozek
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Since they won't increase the difficulty, let us toggle the option to be bad in some sense. Take more damage, find less gear, level slower, something but only for early to mid levels.
𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
Option to be useless early game? 48 votes
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Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't assign cp whille i level a new character.
And depending on how much of a hurry i am in. I might not even bother crafting a set of training gear.3 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesNarvuntien wrote: »I don't assign cp whille i level a new character.
And depending on how much of a hurry i am in. I might not even bother crafting a set of training gear.
That's not enough from my experience.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.2 -
Alpheu5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoGet a bi-directional mouse and play with your less dominant hand.
If using a controller, turn it away from you.Edited by Alpheu5 on September 1, 2019 4:13AMDalek-Rok - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Shād - Argonian Nightblade || Dalek-Shul - Argonian Templar || Dalek-Xal - Argonian Dragonknight || Mounts-the-Snout - Argonian Warden || Dalek-Xul - Argonian Necromancer || Two-Spires - Argonian Arcanist || Dalek-Nesh - Argonian Sorcerer || Dalek-Kör - Argonian DragonknightJudas Helviaryn wrote: »Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.5 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭Since they won't increase the difficulty, let us toggle the option to be bad in some sense. Take more damage, find less gear, level slower, something but only for early to mid levels.
Take more damage, Don't use gear problem solved
find less gear, Don't loot what is there problem solved.
level slower, Don't use any exp gear don't do quests and fight lower level mobs Problem solved.
All of the issues are issues you can fix your self.6 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesBrianLovesLisa wrote: »Since they won't increase the difficulty, let us toggle the option to be bad in some sense. Take more damage, find less gear, level slower, something but only for early to mid levels.
Take more damage, Don't use gear problem solved
find less gear, Don't loot what is there problem solved.
level slower, Don't use any exp gear don't do quests and fight lower level mobs Problem solved.
All of the issues are issues you can fix your self.
Not really because there is no sense of consequence. I could get a dagger, wear nothing, use no skills, and still do most of the pve content.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.2 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »Since they won't increase the difficulty, let us toggle the option to be bad in some sense. Take more damage, find less gear, level slower, something but only for early to mid levels.
Take more damage, Don't use gear problem solved
find less gear, Don't loot what is there problem solved.
level slower, Don't use any exp gear don't do quests and fight lower level mobs Problem solved.
All of the issues are issues you can fix your self.
Not really because there is no sense of consequence. I could get a dagger, wear nothing, use no skills, and still do most of the pve content.
Git Bad then.7 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50 (or even better, a level of your choice). Removing and then re-adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 1, 2019 4:23AM1 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.2 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.
You'd need to spend hours each week reallocating your CP as well as tens of thousands of gold respeccing. It's not a feasible expectation.
I usually quest while waiting for dungeon or trial groups to form. I can't be respeccing 5 times a day. It takes 10-15 minutes just to reallocate CP, and 3k gold for each respec.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 1, 2019 4:26AM0 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭People just want ZOS to waste time to add an on and off button so they don't have to do it their self, simple fix do it your self.3
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BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.
You'd need to spend hours each week reallocating your CP as well as tens of thousands of gold respeccing. It's not a feasible expectation.
Make a new character and don't add anything to it Simple fix.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.
You'd need to spend hours each week reallocating your CP as well as tens of thousands of gold respeccing. It's not a feasible expectation.
Make a new character and don't add anything to it Simple fix.
That's not how an RPG works.1 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesI just wanna earn my first gear. I don't wanna be able to kill at level 1 just cause I have a weapon that was given to me.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.
You'd need to spend hours each week reallocating your CP as well as tens of thousands of gold respeccing. It's not a feasible expectation.
Make a new character and don't add anything to it Simple fix.
That's not how an RPG works.
And making an MMO harder with the flick of a switch because people want it is not how it works either. Even more so when they have the ability to make it harder for their self.3 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesThey should remove the CP system and make it the traditional attribute system instead with a toggle to have Agility affect your hit chance, willpower affect your cast chance, and luck affecting both.Edited by Vhozek on September 1, 2019 4:31AM𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.1 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.
You'd need to spend hours each week reallocating your CP as well as tens of thousands of gold respeccing. It's not a feasible expectation.
Make a new character and don't add anything to it Simple fix.
That's not how an RPG works.
And making an MMO harder with the flick of a switch because people want it is not how it works either. Even more so when they have the ability to make it harder for their self.
You don't have the ability to raise the difficulty yourself. I've already explained to you why that is.0 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Levelling up a new character is sufficiently difficult. It's only a problem when you try to do overland as an endgame character and you one-shot quest bosses.
They need to allow endgame characters an option to gimp themselves. I'd love a button that disabled my CP and reduces my gear level to 50. Removing and adding CP/gear manually multiple times in a day isn't a feasible solution, especially on console.
No skills no armor or weapons, just punch the mobs, add in fight 2 or 3 mobs at a time enjoy your hard mode.
You'd need to spend hours each week reallocating your CP as well as tens of thousands of gold respeccing. It's not a feasible expectation.
Make a new character and don't add anything to it Simple fix.
That's not how an RPG works.
And making an MMO harder with the flick of a switch because people want it is not how it works either. Even more so when they have the ability to make it harder for their self.
You don't have the ability to raise the difficulty yourself. I've already explained to you why that is.
You explained your reason for it not working for you, not that it does not work.3 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Since they won't increase the difficulty, let us toggle the option to be bad in some sense. Take more damage, find less gear, level slower, something but only for early to mid levels.
Hopefully they will add veteran zones soon so we don't have to resort to such stupidity for a decent challenge.
They have veteran dungeons after all. It makes little sense why we shouldn't have a veteran overland for veteran players as well.
That's one of the reasons I haven't bought Elseweyr yet. Waiting to see how the new CP system shakes out and to see if they do something to improve the quality of gameplay as it relates to the landscape content. Because it's just pitifully easy to the point it teeters on boredom and I'm sure they realize this.Edited by Jeremy on September 1, 2019 4:34AM1 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesBrianLovesLisa wrote: »
The game was more difficult at launch so you should've gotten good, but that's not what you people said. You said change it and we got One Tamriel.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »
The game was more difficult at launch so you should've gotten good, but that's not what you people said. You said change it and we got One Tamriel.
I didn't play Pre 1T, nor do I play now I for one am tired of all the "fixes" they do every single patch.0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »
The game was more difficult at launch so you should've gotten good, but that's not what you people said. You said change it and we got One Tamriel.
It was only more difficult while you were on par level wise though. You would quickly out level the zone after a few quests then it would become even easier than it is now and the monsters wouldn't even drop loot - yet still aggro. It was annoying as all get out.
They just need to add veteran zones that scale to the level of max CP. It's an easy problem to fix.Edited by Jeremy on September 1, 2019 4:37AM0 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesBrianLovesLisa wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »
The game was more difficult at launch so you should've gotten good, but that's not what you people said. You said change it and we got One Tamriel.
I didn't play Pre 1T, nor do I play now I for one am tired of all the "fixes" they do every single patch.
And why try to influence change where you don't tread?𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Narvuntien wrote: »I don't assign cp whille i level a new character.
And depending on how much of a hurry i am in. I might not even bother crafting a set of training gear.
This and I would think it is obvious for most of us.0 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »BrianLovesLisa wrote: »
The game was more difficult at launch so you should've gotten good, but that's not what you people said. You said change it and we got One Tamriel.
I didn't play Pre 1T, nor do I play now I for one am tired of all the "fixes" they do every single patch.
And why try to influence change where you don't tread?
I am not trying to influence anything but I have no issue calling people out for posts that have been made many times in the past 2 years and explained how to handle in everything that got replies.Edited by BrianLovesLisa on September 1, 2019 4:38AM1 -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoBucket and Broom only, no CP
Leveled a character that way and yes, it is a lot more challenging ...
Edited by SirAndy on September 1, 2019 4:39AM3 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesNarvuntien wrote: »I don't assign cp whille i level a new character.
And depending on how much of a hurry i am in. I might not even bother crafting a set of training gear.
This and I would think it is obvious for most of us.
I go much harder than this and still fall asleep. I've never in my 1500 hours crafted any training set.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesBucket and Broom only, no CP
Leveled a character that way and yes, it is a lot more challenging ...
Doesn't work. You still get free gear and 3 levels upon spawn. There's a small level of difficulty at max CP because you're minmaxing to beat other players who are.Edited by Vhozek on September 1, 2019 4:41AM𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.0 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭Narvuntien wrote: »I don't assign cp whille i level a new character.
And depending on how much of a hurry i am in. I might not even bother crafting a set of training gear.
This and I would think it is obvious for most of us.
I go much harder than this and still fall asleep. I've never in my 1500 hours crafted any training set.
So do vet dungeons and trials then.0