13 Million Players and Counting

kylewwefan · August 2019

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

Sandman929 · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

Soon they'll be able to add the asterisk *12.9 million accounts in cold storage

TelvanniWizard · August 2019

Sandman929 wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

Soon they'll be able to add the asterisk *12.9 million accounts in cold storage

So right. Accounts created don't equal active players.

KappaKid83 · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

I don't think this is necessarily true but I agree with the rest. I am hopeful with the performance updates that things will stabilize, although I am not holding my breath. 13 Million players also seems like a number that is overblown. I mean how many of that number is idle accounts or duplicate accounts. I would think that it's a combination of both but to what extent that number actually is will be a question mark. What I want to see as far as actual numbers would be a login per month metric and see what that looks like.

BNOC · August 2019

It's one of those though, when you look at percentages on achievements, it's seemingly much less.

Xbox stats:
Achieved level 50:
Only 7.25% of gamers unlocked this

Spend your first Champion Point:
Only 7.14% of gamers unlocked this

etc;

I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in.

KappaKid83 · August 2019

TelvanniWizard wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

Soon they'll be able to add the asterisk *12.9 million accounts in cold storage

So right. Accounts created don't equal active players.

Yeah this is what I was trying to cultivate with my post, this exact thing.

valeriiya · August 2019

The bots shouldn't count

Zorgon_The_Revenged · August 2019

Saw this post and thought it was about Monster Hunter: World, who have sold 13 million copies of the game.

TragedyOA · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

Lol there is no where near 13 million players playing eso

Maiyu93 · August 2019

I think maybe that is just the copies sold, active accounts across all 3 platforms probably isn't even a quarter of 13 million.

Nemesis7884 · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

the "ad" also told me it would have 16 times the details and "just work"....i guess ill think about it while i wait for my canvas bag....

Nifty2g · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

Performance is better than it has been. Gaining new players to clap err welcome into the game.

It’s good! Things are getting better.

There’s performance improvement plans underway.

QOL game enhancements.

More content added every quarter.

The game might be able to carry on for a few more years. Might

Concurrent players is the info they wont tell us because you'll be shocked to see how many people from 13 million sales actually play.

andreasv · August 2019

BNOC wrote: »

It's one of those though, when you look at percentages on achievements, it's seemingly much less.

Xbox stats:
Achieved level 50:
Only 7.25% of gamers unlocked this

Spend your first Champion Point:
Only 7.14% of gamers unlocked this

etc;

I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in.

Isn't ESO part of XBox Game Pass? Would explain the high account number but pathetic end game character's figure.

Kartalin · August 2019

valeriiya wrote: »

The bots shouldn't count

And this is why they don't respond more aggressively to blatant bot accounts anymore -- they bought their game, inflate their numbers, and make them feel better about how terrible they treat their customers while lining the pockets of their investors.

Kali_Despoine · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

come on @kylewwefan you know I just made a bunch more accounts

kylewwefan · August 2019

2 million of em Kali? Lol! That’s a lot of fake accounts dude. I guess it’s possible. Make sure to put eso plus on them too!

BNOC wrote: »

It's one of those though, when you look at percentages on achievements, it's seemingly much less.

Xbox stats:
Achieved level 50:
Only 7.25% of gamers unlocked this

Spend your first Champion Point:
Only 7.14% of gamers unlocked this

etc;

I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in.

Let’s break this down a little bit with the simpleton math I can understand. 13 million accounts. 3 platforms. Well say 4 million per platform for the sake of simplicity. If they are roughly equally spread out.

I can’t figure out %7.25 level 50 characters in my head, but I can do %10 real fast. That would be roughly 400,000 accounts to level 50. But it wasn’t %10, it was closer to half that. Which would be 200,000. Plus a little more, I think you could roughly say 300,000 level 50 characters.

Btw, it’s %12.2 level 50 characters on PS4 so you know.

I’ve been told before that those numbers are completely inaccurate, so whatever on that anyways.

Feric51 · August 2019

valeriiya wrote: »

The bots shouldn't count

Exactly.

On Xbox, you only have to purchase a single copy of the game and you can literally make unlimited accounts as long as you can create valid email addresses for all of them.

Nifty2g wrote: »

Concurrent players is the info they wont tell us because you'll be shocked to see how many people from 13 million sales actually play.

Even then, the "13 million" number is probably referring to number of accounts created, not individual sales. See comment above regarding how simple it is to create multiple accounts on Xbox.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · August 2019

valeriiya wrote: »

The bots shouldn't count

Starlock · August 2019

andreasv wrote: »

BNOC wrote: »

It's one of those though, when you look at percentages on achievements, it's seemingly much less.

Xbox stats:
Achieved level 50:
Only 7.25% of gamers unlocked this

Spend your first Champion Point:
Only 7.14% of gamers unlocked this

etc;

I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in.

Isn't ESO part of XBox Game Pass? Would explain the high account number but pathetic end game character's figure.

Yes, it is. On top of that, it is painfully easy I hear to create alternate accounts on xbox because of it. There are several folks I know of in my trade guilds that have multiple accounts. Those all get interpreted as separate players, but they aren't.

Oh, and then there's the bots, which are utterly terrible on console too because of the lack fo actual game masters.

BNOC · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

2 million of em Kali? Lol! That’s a lot of fake accounts dude. I guess it’s possible. Make sure to put eso plus on them too!

BNOC wrote: »

It's one of those though, when you look at percentages on achievements, it's seemingly much less.

Xbox stats:
Achieved level 50:
Only 7.25% of gamers unlocked this

Spend your first Champion Point:
Only 7.14% of gamers unlocked this

etc;

I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in.

Let’s break this down a little bit with the simpleton math I can understand. 13 million accounts. 3 platforms. Well say 4 million per platform for the sake of simplicity. If they are roughly equally spread out.

I can’t figure out %7.25 level 50 characters in my head, but I can do %10 real fast. That would be roughly 400,000 accounts to level 50. But it wasn’t %10, it was closer to half that. Which would be 200,000. Plus a little more, I think you could roughly say 300,000 level 50 characters.

Btw, it’s %12.2 level 50 characters on PS4 so you know.

I’ve been told before that those numbers are completely inaccurate, so whatever on that anyways.

Yeah but even then, that's just characters that have hit the cap, I can't be bothered to go back to the stats but 300cp is obviously less and so on - I know that includes active players, but they have to be fairly new to still fall into that category.

Yeah people have argued against those stats for years. Historically though, it's usually people failing at VMA that discredit them most.
Either way, those ones are based on game achievements so I can't see how they're debated.

Funnily enough, percentages raise over time naturally and fall slightly when the f2p events etc are on.

andreasv wrote: »

BNOC wrote: »

It's one of those though, when you look at percentages on achievements, it's seemingly much less.

Xbox stats:
Achieved level 50:
Only 7.25% of gamers unlocked this

Spend your first Champion Point:
Only 7.14% of gamers unlocked this

etc;

I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in.

Isn't ESO part of XBox Game Pass? Would explain the high account number but pathetic end game character's figure.

Yeah that's what I was saying - "I suppose it helps when they do the F2p events, game pass and whatever on PC/PS4 that draws thousands of temporary accounts in"

Kali_Despoine · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

2 million of em Kali? Lol! That’s a lot of fake accounts dude. I guess it’s possible. Make sure to put eso plus on them too!

well they just had their free eso play so accounts were made, used and dropped.
Also, You know I only put ESO+ on Dead, Lucky and Acorn in a rotation pattern.

preevious · August 2019

Positive news?? How dare you bring this to the forums !
I forbid you to rejoice ! I forbid everyone to rejoice !
Everyone should sulk and be as unhappy as I am !

Now, say something negative about the game, as is customary, so we can congratulate ourselves, nods to each others, and smile smugly and knowingly while feeding you "agrees" and "awesomes" !

...

magictucktuck · August 2019

I think this is the best mmo ever and popular with new and old players simply because old content is never outdated. It the best thing they ever did to the game, that and it's the best combat and customization or any mmo yet. Just chiming in on the positive thread lol

todokete · August 2019

This is the best MMO out there ofc it's going to have 13million accounts

Wolfchild07 · August 2019

Didn't they just hit around 200k subs recently? I very much doubt the other 12.8 million would play regularly/at all without the craftbag.

TequilaFire · August 2019

My household counts for 12 accounts. smh

dennissomb16_ESO · August 2019

Since we do not know how many copies of the game they sell, or how many active players are actually online I go by in game experience when it come to numbers

It used to be for me when I joined 30 day CP campaign (always the most populated) after a few days I would get a couple thousand AP and I would be around number 2000 on the leader board. The most recent campaign I joined after about a week and after a couple thousand AP I was number 176. That tells me a lot about the current population (at least from a PvP perspective).

ATomiX69 · August 2019

kylewwefan wrote: »

Did anyone even notice that? Oh yeah it was 11 million, now the ads say 13 Million players. Tell me how the game is dying ya weirdos.

13 million created accounts of which probably less than 5% are active, dont get too excited buddy boy.

kylewwefan · August 2019

They’re waiting for you to forget that automatically renew subscription check box Dead. It’s got me before. Lol!

People don’t really PvP like that. That I’ve noticed. They get 25k ap on a bunch of characters for the tranny stone rewards. That’s it. It’s hard to get invested especially when my alliance gets their teeth kicked in all month long.

I can’t really compare ESO to any other MMO. It’s the only one I’ve ever really played. I watched my son play WoW. It baffles me that anyone would want to go play that. It be like wanting to go back to a tube tv after watching 4K. Some people are raving about BDO. When I’m done here, I’ll likely be done with MMO forever. It’s too “all consuming”

Firstmep · August 2019

Sadly thats the format most AAA companies use for the games these days.

Anything to bring in new players and make quick cash, nothing for long time players.

Performance isnt better, its some of the worst it has been.

13 million accounts created in 5 years, probably less than 2 million actually still playing, if that.

Im sure ZOS is making big bucks on the game, especially from the crown store, otherwise they would have changed the way they handle the game.

As far as the proposed performance improvements are concerned, we will see when we get there, we have gotten years and years of empty promises, a few vague sentences on a webpage is no guarantee for anything.

Keledus · August 2019

13 Million, that's probably copies sold not active players whatsoever.
I dont think steam counts the players from PC that play without steam but just from steam.
It's about 17,000 players in 24hrs peak with their all time peak being 32.5k