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Screw the patch FIX THE LAG- ZOS wants talk about the patch, NOT THE LAG
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ArcadenceBlaine wrote: »There are some great titles coming out.. Borderlands 3 in just a few weeks even.
The time they are taking to fix their performance problems, I plan to go play borderlands, or maybe other titles. Don't forget to cancel your sub, ensure they recognize the loss. Maybe in a damn year when they have their fixes rolled out, and a new season of nerfs are out.. And there will be story and other content to catch up on...
Yall.. That's the answer. Don't sit on these forums playing into all this drama. Leave the game, cancel your sub, and come back to it later after they have done their thing.
I went from a daily player on Xbox na, to a nonplayer in the last week. And I have to say, I feel relieved even. Plus, when you do come back, if and when of course, there will be so much more for you to do. It's a win win for the player. Loss, maybe a postponed win for ESO, but for the player.. Hell ya, get out there, find something else that brings the Gamer out of ya!
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✭✭✭✭✭@Conduit0 they've been telling us the same thing for years. They're the boy who cried wolf and people get tired of waiting. A hundred threads won't change anything. The only thing they care about is $$ and until that's impacted they have no reason to fix this shitshow.
Yeah... Oddly enough, some of those things they told us did work out. At least, for a while. Seems to me they can break things much faster than they can fix them.
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Conduit0✭✭✭✭✭
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Elsweyr has nothing to do with it, these problems have been a long time coming. The problem is the megaserver design, everything is interconnected so when the server is overloaded due to a ballooning population(despite what the forum Chicken Littles would have you believe) everything is affected including seemingly empty zones. Fixing the problem requires massive overhauls of the games code, it's not something that can be done quickly nor would it be advisable to drop all the changes at once because the law of unintended consequences is a female dog.Expecting us to wait until 2020 for a performance fix is a bit rich, especially considering that performance was actually semi-okay on console pre-Elsweyr. I’d really like to know what they managed to screw up so badly with Elsweyr that resulted in extreme frame rate loss and rubber banding in deserted vanilla PVE locations like The Rift. How does it take a year to fix the mistakes of a single update?
No they have not been telling us the same thing for years. They have NEVER laid out a roadmap for performance updates before now. They have been telling us for years that they were working on it and considering the complexity of rewriting critical game code it is likely that at least some of these planned updates have been in development for years.@Conduit0 they've been telling us the same thing for years. They're the boy who cried wolf and people get tired of waiting.
A hundred threads won't change anything. The only thing they care about is $$ and until that's impacted they have no reason to fix this shitshow.
But the crown store works great, best performance in the game. They're literally "killing it".0 -
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Elsweyr has nothing to do with it, these problems have been a long time coming. The problem is the megaserver design, everything is interconnected so when the server is overloaded due to a ballooning population(despite what the forum Chicken Littles would have you believe) everything is affected including seemingly empty zones. Fixing the problem requires massive overhauls of the games code, it's not something that can be done quickly nor would it be advisable to drop all the changes at once because the law of unintended consequences is a female dog.Expecting us to wait until 2020 for a performance fix is a bit rich, especially considering that performance was actually semi-okay on console pre-Elsweyr. I’d really like to know what they managed to screw up so badly with Elsweyr that resulted in extreme frame rate loss and rubber banding in deserted vanilla PVE locations like The Rift. How does it take a year to fix the mistakes of a single update?
No they have not been telling us the same thing for years. They have NEVER laid out a roadmap for performance updates before now. They have been telling us for years that they were working on it and considering the complexity of rewriting critical game code it is likely that at least some of these planned updates have been in development for years.@Conduit0 they've been telling us the same thing for years. They're the boy who cried wolf and people get tired of waiting.
A hundred threads won't change anything. The only thing they care about is $$ and until that's impacted they have no reason to fix this shitshow.
But the crown store works great, best performance in the game. They're literally "killing it".
A roadmap? A 6th grade student can create the same vague powerpoint. Outside of major " fixes" why cant zos start doing performance updates outside of major cash content updates?0 -
Conduit0✭✭✭✭✭
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People complain that devs don't communicate enough, devs layout a step by step plan of their intended fixes, people still complain anyways.
A roadmap? A 6th grade student can create the same vague powerpoint. Outside of major " fixes" why cant zos start doing performance updates outside of major cash content updates?
The performance updates are major fixes and staggering their releases makes sense because it gives them time to make sure all the new changes are working properly before they release the next round of updates.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No money in fixing lag. Until maybe population starts dropping significantly. Which obviously hasnt happened enough yet.0 -
Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
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People complain that devs don't communicate enough, devs layout a step by step plan of their intended fixes, people still complain anyways.
A roadmap? A 6th grade student can create the same vague powerpoint. Outside of major " fixes" why cant zos start doing performance updates outside of major cash content updates?
The performance updates are major fixes and staggering their releases makes sense because it gives them time to make sure all the new changes are working properly before they release the next round of updates.
I'm not one of those players, & could care less if zos ever communicates. Patch/update notes are good enough for me.
A vote of confidence would be adding small performance updates as frequent as $content$ updates.
They really can't squeeze any performance/bug fixes between paid content in the past year(s), now, next week?Edited by Wolfpaw on August 18, 2019 1:28AM1 -
Genomic✭✭✭✭✭Face it people, the players who pay the bills now are those who spend $$$$$ on digital knick-knacks and gambling crates. Lag and poor performance hardly affects these people, as they spend their time playing with their virtual dolls, sitting in their virtual homes, lavishly decorated by overpriced digital furniture (and in the real world they probably have crappy furniture because they spent their paychecks on digital furniture and gambling crates). Because of this, in every game that goes B2P or F2P the focus inevitably becomes more and more about selling gambling boxes and digital bric-à-brac and less and less about performance and gameplay.
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Elsweyr has nothing to do with it, these problems have been a long time coming. The problem is the megaserver design, everything is interconnected so when the server is overloaded due to a ballooning population(despite what the forum Chicken Littles would have you believe) everything is affected including seemingly empty zones. Fixing the problem requires massive overhauls of the games code, it's not something that can be done quickly nor would it be advisable to drop all the changes at once because the law of unintended consequences is a female dog.Expecting us to wait until 2020 for a performance fix is a bit rich, especially considering that performance was actually semi-okay on console pre-Elsweyr. I’d really like to know what they managed to screw up so badly with Elsweyr that resulted in extreme frame rate loss and rubber banding in deserted vanilla PVE locations like The Rift. How does it take a year to fix the mistakes of a single update?
No they have not been telling us the same thing for years. They have NEVER laid out a roadmap for performance updates before now. They have been telling us for years that they were working on it and considering the complexity of rewriting critical game code it is likely that at least some of these planned updates have been in development for years.@Conduit0 they've been telling us the same thing for years. They're the boy who cried wolf and people get tired of waiting.
A hundred threads won't change anything. The only thing they care about is $$ and until that's impacted they have no reason to fix this shitshow.
But the crown store works great, best performance in the game. They're literally "killing it".
Elsweyr has nothing to do with it? Okay, let’s just ignore all of the new performance-related issues that cropped up with Elsweyr (e.g. desynced audio). The population balloon thing I could understand (and did) immediately after the chapter’s release. But once population stabilized back to pre-Elsweyr numbers after the novelty wore off, we should have seen a return to pre-Elsweyr performance, right? Right? Except we didn’t... No, it’s pretty clear that something went wrong with this update, and the devs are kidding themselves if they think people are going to stick with the game until 2020 with things continuing to be the way they are. Performance and game stability should be their number one priority, not something that they’ll get around to fixing eventually. The game is unplayable right now on console.3 -
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✭Way to go zos.
ZOS - “Lets develop a patch that makes no sense, NERFS everywhere, that will really get the forums talking. Let’s make the patch so ridiculous that everyone will talk about the patch and NOT THE LAG!”
Smart zos. All the posts on here are about your stupidity in gameplay decisions and NOT the lag... in all honesty you are trying to be smart.
I don’t buy it, and you all shouldn’t either.
FIX
YOUR
SERVERS
100mbps, hardwired, Xbox one X, SSD, subbed account and been playing since launch day 1...
and I still can’t fight without lag and without getting booted to the home screen. Damn, you make NBA 2 k servers look godly....
So. Over. It.
First off you clearly have no clue how a mmo works if your comparing nba2k with a MMO server. Second they showed a road map that they are WORKING ON to hopefully help with the lag. How about reading pinned messages before ranting.Edited by jircris11 on August 18, 2019 2:47AMIGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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kromegas✭✭✭Way to go zos.
ZOS - “Lets develop a patch that makes no sense, NERFS everywhere, that will really get the forums talking. Let’s make the patch so ridiculous that everyone will talk about the patch and NOT THE LAG!”
Smart zos. All the posts on here are about your stupidity in gameplay decisions and NOT the lag... in all honesty you are trying to be smart.
I don’t buy it, and you all shouldn’t either.
FIX
YOUR
SERVERS
100mbps, hardwired, Xbox one X, SSD, subbed account and been playing since launch day 1...
and I still can’t fight without lag and without getting booted to the home screen. Damn, you make NBA 2 k servers look godly....
So. Over. It.
First off you clearly have no clue how a mmo works if your comparing nba2k with a MMO server. Second they showed a road map that they are WORKING ON to hopefully help with the lag. How about reading pinned messages before ranting.
No clue? Your trolling right? My sarcasm must have went way over your head...
Go buy some more crown crates...3 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭I like how some of you guys keep saying ZOS already addressed this and they even made a visual aid for the roadmap to 2020 performance improvements. Like I haven't heard that before, in the last couple years. Didn't Matt Firor recently say they would fix servers by last April? Then that became later this year, and now they are explaining it will be 2020. Mid 2020? And there's an asterisk with small text at the bottom for the disclaimer. Sure, if they fix it by 2020 then perfect but will it really be fixed or will it be another "fix" just like they already said they fixed group finder or infinite load screens? Because my experience has just been worse and worse, where issues used to only be in Cyrodiil now you get them overland in big cities. And at this point ZOS has said the same things over and over again. I'm fine with checking forums and then resubbing in 2030 or whenever they actually improve servers and game performance. But I'm not holding my breath. And these multiple complaints on the forums obviously have merit. I bet they would like to pretend everything is fine and just focus on new content and new crown store cash items but really the game performance is so subpar compared to other games in the same genre like FF14. Even BDO- as bad as that game is runs better, is prettier, and has less lag.0
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Monsieur✭✭✭The problems didn’t start with Elswyr, they’ve just made them more noticeable to the folk who always state that “I’ve never had any problems” and ZOS couldn’t bury their heads in the sand any further.
The problems have been intrinsic to the game at least since the everlasting load-screen changes.
The stuttering you get at a wayshrine? That’s been there since Summerset launch, but the devs laugh it off and ask you clear your cache.
The crashing in Cyrodiil? That’s been there since at least the first midsummer madness event, but ZOS ignores the issue.
The Crying wolf analogy is perfect, we’ve been down this road before, and the roadmap is laughable given how long these issues have already been going on.
In a years time, when none of the issues have been fixed - then what? What’s the plan when none of this inevitably works? Shut the servers down?1 -
labambao✭✭✭✭I have a connection spikes after update.
Game literally stops for 3-10 seconds every minute for me.0
